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56D500boy
Posted 2018-02-14 11:27 AM (#558098 - in reply to #558095)
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Powerflite - 2018-02-14 11:01 AM The motor does sound a little sick, but not quite a miss. A 413 in a '57 Dodge seems like it should be quite a bit faster than low 15 sec in a '57 Dodge if it was running well, but a top speed number would eliminate the traction question.


Here is a working link to the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95QlxH2pBZU&t=3s

The voice over guy tells it straight. He never says "D500". The says it that he built it and that is "slightly warmed over" with 63-64 413 with a 750 Carter AFB and 65 727 Torqueflite and a B body 8 3/4 posi rear end. SSB front discs.

Given all that and the condition of the car and potential cam issues not-withstanding, the current asking price for the car, as a Custom Custom Royal Lancer (not as a D500), is good, I think.





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mikes2nd
Posted 2018-02-14 2:14 PM (#558104 - in reply to #554537)
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yeah the car is obviously not original and is not junk. Haggle with the dealer and you have a good purchase Guy spent 10 years restoring it?

I would be the auction said it was a clone, just your typical shady dealer going "yep she's a beaut!, and rare!, little old lady outta Mt Pleasant owned it!"...

Just drive it or put back to original, either way its still a nice car
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arizona mopar gold
Posted 2018-02-15 1:51 PM (#558148 - in reply to #558052)
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Powerflite - 2018-02-13 1:54 PM

What's the difference in speedo housings between '57 and '58? I thought they were the same.


No...there is a difference between them...if you look at a 57 Speedo the last digit is 120 but look closely and you see that it continues to 130mph , the 58's finish right at 120mph.
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arizona mopar gold
Posted 2018-02-15 2:01 PM (#558149 - in reply to #554537)
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Anybody else notice this 57 CRL has been the the dentist...she's lost her front teeth!
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56D500boy
Posted 2018-02-15 2:16 PM (#558151 - in reply to #558149)
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arizona mopar gold - 2018-02-15 2:01 PM
Anybody else notice this 57 CRL has been the the dentist...she's lost her front teeth!


But there could be good reasons for that
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mikes2nd
Posted 2018-02-15 3:48 PM (#558154 - in reply to #554537)
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Yeah those bumpers should be straight and perfectly flat....
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56D500boy
Posted 2018-02-15 5:17 PM (#558160 - in reply to #558154)
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mikes2nd - 2018-02-15 3:48 PM
Yeah those bumpers should be straight and perfectly flat....


With or without "teeth" (aka "spuds") (Personally, I like the grill without on a 57)



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mikes2nd
Posted 2018-02-15 5:55 PM (#558166 - in reply to #554537)
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I flip flop back and forth.
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LD3 Greg
Posted 2018-02-15 9:03 PM (#558175 - in reply to #557689)
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Powerflite - 2018-02-08 11:57 AM

LD3 Greg - 2017-12-21 9:32 PM

27 means optional engine and upgraded suspension. Check it out yourself! The only way one could order suspension upgrades is by a package. The second digit is the "chassis" code which involves the "packages". No other way, for example, to order a sway bar on a Coronet. No way to order heavier "domestic" torsion bars except by package.

Neil and I have clearly identified " chassis" codes: 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, and now 27? I have a chart of our results......



Greg, can you post this updated chart, or provide a link to it?


Nathan. Here is the best copy of the chart I have.

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Powerflite
Posted 2018-02-16 10:07 AM (#558203 - in reply to #554537)
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Thanks Greg. I appreciate you posting that. Do you know if the heavy duty Dodge torsion bar & rear springs are the same as the standard Firesweep & '58-'59 Windsor T-bars & springs? Essentially, they would create a Dodge using a Firesweep frame assembly with the sway bar & stiffer springs already on it. It would make sense to me, but I am just guessing.
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LD3 Greg
Posted 2018-02-16 10:59 AM (#558207 - in reply to #558203)
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Powerflite - 2018-02-16 10:07 AM

Thanks Greg. I appreciate you posting that. Do you know if the heavy duty Dodge torsion bar & rear springs are the same as the standard Firesweep & '58-'59 Windsor T-bars & springs? Essentially, they would create a Dodge using a Firesweep frame assembly with the sway bar & stiffer springs already on it. It would make sense to me, but I am just guessing.


I don't know, Nathan. When we did that work we were concentrating only on Dodge and they were all Detroit built with their characteristic body plates. We actually crawled under, or had someone else do it, all these example cars to get part numbers! Oh, to be that young again!! -- !

Greg
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RUSTORICHES
Posted 2018-02-16 10:52 PM (#558239 - in reply to #554537)
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Just a heads up this a good example of "Buyer Be Ware" when I mentioned to them that I was arranging to have a credited appraiser from Hagerty do a hands on appraisal their story line changed so much that they would not answer a text ofr a phone call. I have several photos of the car including a vin # from the door jam and that was blurred?
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Posted 2018-02-17 10:37 AM (#558253 - in reply to #558239)
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RUSTORICHES - 2018-02-16 9:52 PM Just a heads up this a good example of "Buyer Be Ware" when I mentioned to them that I was arranging to have a credited appraiser from Hagerty do a hands on appraisal their story line changed so much that they would not answer a text ofr a phone call. I have several photos of the car including a vin # from the door jam and that was blurred?

Glen,  I sure appreciated all you help exposing  the dealership "Roadreadusedcars" True colors .

john

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shawnivan110
Posted 2018-03-12 9:12 AM (#559723 - in reply to #554537)
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david , i favor the manner you're thinking that . but anyway ...... see you body tag shows initial 2 numbers as twenty five that is correct for a d500 automotive.

Here is that the scoop on this dodge i am refering to . I place $1000 down on the automotive via a mastercard Check card associated bank , business organization sent Maine the build sheet and body tag when I sent them the money so is intrapment . Like they were holding all the documents on the automotive till they reeled Maine in .Now when secret writing everything it shows it's not a d500 however the deaslership keep voice communication they're right and that i am wrong. they're taking sides with the auction company they bought it from . They misrepresent the automotive describing it as a D500 automotive. thus i need my $1000 back , thus once I used a check card the bank cannot stop the payment . thus currently if ought to go via different channels to urge it back ct motorized vehicle , and ct trade client protection that i'm business coraciiform bird.then aftersigning all the paper work for getting the automotive they didn't have Maine sign a authorization type totake the $1000 out of check card. he aforementioned he didn't got to have Maine sign a document type . that i believe he screwed himself there and that i can proceed on the claim conjointly. These documents on top of clearly show that it's not a d500 automotive simply by the build sheet alone showing the engine size as a kds poly head 325. case closed. all D500's were hemi cars .

What ar your thoughts? the other routes to persue? Thanks
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