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Expert 5K+ Posts: 5399    Location: Lower Mainland BC | I have previously posted about my 56 Dodge's cowl tag. I recently received scanned copies of the 56 Dodge Accessories brochure (see below). Now I'd like to interpret the cowl tag and the IBM card in light of the brochure info. My car has Tinted windows, power steering, power brakes, Powerflite, and the Basic, Convenience and Appearance accessories (vanity mirror is missing but it probably was there at the beginning). I don't know how those translate to the Cowl Tag or IBM card. Cowl Tag IBM Card: The Accessories Brochures pages, courtesy of Dave H.: Edited by 56D500boy 2017-12-29 11:27 AM (56DodgeAccessoriesPricingBrochure_1.jpg) (56DodgeAccessoriesPricingBrochure_2.jpg) Attachments ----------------  56DodgeAccessoriesPricingBrochure_1.jpg (224KB - 101 downloads) 56DodgeAccessoriesPricingBrochure_2.jpg (243KB - 107 downloads) | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 5399 Location: Lower Mainland BC | Gbreslin - 2018-03-27 5:54 PM Dave—I have the same problem—-I purchased a 1956 Custom Royal Sedan last Saturday and can find no information that will help me learn the original paint (263) and trim (3422) and body (835). There has to be a resource available for us! Anything that you can share with me will be greatly appreciated. GEORGE Breslin Jacksonville, Florida George: Welcome to the forum. There aren't many 56 Dodge folks here that are active. I will try to help you as much as possible. First thing is to post up some photos of your car. Here are some hints about how to do that: Start at the top of this thread: http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=64340&... I have previously posted a number of 56 Dodge articles to this thread (note it goes over two pages): http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=67189&... As for paint, I think 263 is Sapphire white, jewel black and aquamarine, based on this thread: http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=63553&... which includes this: Body 835 = same as mine = 4 dr sedan Trim: 3422 = too many numbers. Should only be three numbers as far as I know and I would have thought that it would be 541, 542 or 543 (?) For the Custom Royal Sedans, so far I know: 541 = two tone blues 542 = black and white 543 = might be the two green tones Have a look at this thread: http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=65230&... I am emailing you this directly as well. Dave F. | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 5399 Location: Lower Mainland BC | . frwl (Igor): Not sure if your knowledge/data base goes back as far as 1956 or not but I am hoping that you can decode the codes on the top row of this tag:  Edited by 56D500boy 2019-10-06 1:35 PM | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 5399 Location: Lower Mainland BC | frwl - 2019-10-07 1:11 PM Can you read the phrase (three letters) below 5 to the right of AXLE 35… on the top of this picture? HTR – Heater? While I digest the info on my cowl data tag, I am responding to the "PS": The 1955 Dodge Detroit IBM card you question is this one: I have annotated a similar 1956 Dodge Detroit IBM card and that category is "ROUTE" . Maybe in 1955 they just used "RTE" (??) This: | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 5399 Location: Lower Mainland BC | Igor: Thanks very much. I will now add my comments to your thoughts (I will put mine in bold). For clarification, my car came with the basic group , convenience group and appearance group options from this list: The following is from you with my comments in bold: *********************** Hello Dave! LA codes are very hard to identify. I'm not sure they're correct and may be wrong. Here is what I have. SG = 1 = Solex Tinted Glass – All Windows (Code 361) My car has Solex (lightly) tinted windows all around so SG =1 makes sense SG = 2 = Solex Tinted Glass – Windshield only (Code 362) SG = 4 = Solex Tinted Glass SG = 5 = Solex Tinted Glass – All Windows and Sun Cap Visor (outer) EW = 2 = Power Windows EW = 3 = Power Windows (Code 363) No power windows, so no code makes sense M1 = 6 = Code 356 = Radio 6 Tube VELVETONE and Rear Seat Speaker M1 = 8 = Code 358 = Radio 8 Tube MUSIC MASTER and Rear Seat Speaker (which you have…) Not really. When I bought my car, it came as a radio delete and there was no rear speaker - I added the radio and speakers M1 = 9 = Code 359 = Radio 9 Tube ELECTRO TOUCH TUNER and Rear Seat Speaker SAME RADIOS – LESS REAR SEAT SPEAKER: M1 = 5 = Code 356 = Radio 6 Tube VELVETONE M1 = 7 = Code 358 = Radio 8 Tube MUSIC MASTER (although HI-FI RECORD PLAYER has code 357) M1 = 1 = Code 359 = Radio 9 Tube ELECTRO TOUCH TUNER M2 = 4 = ??? – no info M3 = 1, 4, 5 or 7 = ??? some sources says that 1 is a Code 451 = Electric Clock I have the OE ElectroMechanical Clock M5 = 2 = Jiffy Jet Windshield Washer (Code 392). Probably Variable Speed Windshield Wipers has Code 391… But another source info says that Codes 391 and 392 are dealer installation Plymouth accessory codes (mirrors) My car has both Jiffy Jet washer and variable windshield wipers M6 = 2 = Exterior Molding Trim Packages for Plymouth (Codes 421, 422, 423, 424, 425) and DeSoto (Codes 421 and 422) I got the standard Custom Royal "chrome" trim M7 = ??? – no info M8 = 3 = Dodge Basic Accessory Group (possibly Code 413), includes a Heater with Defroster (Code 355), besides mirrors M8 = 3 = DeSoto Accessory Group: Tinted Glass, Heater, Mirrors, WSW Tires, etc. As stated above, I have the basic, convenience and appearance group options M8 = 4 = DeSoto Accessory Group: Tinted Glass, Heater, Mirrors, WSW Tires, etc. + Radio 8 Tube M8 = 5 = DeSoto Accessory Group: Tinted Glass, Heater, Mirrors, WSW Tires, etc. + Radio 9 Tube and Rear Seat Speaker So, if a digit on the position M8 has «3», position M1 should have 5, 6, 7, 8 or a 9 logically – Radio codes factory installed. If M1 has nothing – radio installed by dealer M9 = 3 = Inside Prismatic Mirror M9 = 4 = Inside Prismatic Mirror + Left Outside Mirror I have the inside prismatic mirror and both the left and right outside mirrors M9 = 8 = Inside Prismatic Mirror + Left Outside Mirror + Right Outside Mirror < Correct me, if I’m wrong ******************** Thanks very much. You did pretty good. I now know more than I did when I woke up this AM. Edited by 56D500boy 2019-10-07 6:35 PM (DaveFs56CustomRoyalRadioDelete.jpg) Attachments ---------------- DaveFs56CustomRoyalRadioDelete.jpg (146KB - 16 downloads) | ||
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Regular Posts: 74 | Hello Dave. Can you add something to this list? (???? means no info). 1956 Dodge Trim Codes Coronet Sedans 526 = Patterned Jacquard Weave Fabric – Green 527 = Patterned Jacquard Weave Fabric – Blue 528 = Patterned Jacquard Weave Fabric – Black ???? = Patterned Jacquard Weave Fabric and Cordagrain Seat Back – Blue (Optional) ???? = Patterned Jacquard Weave Fabric and Cordagrain Seat Back – Black (Optional) ???? = Patterned Jacquard Weave Fabric and Cordagrain Seat Back – Green (Optional) Coronet Lancer Hardtops 529 = Patterned Jacquard Weave Fabric – Green 530 = Patterned Jacquard Weave Fabric – Blue 531 = Patterned Jacquard Weave Fabric – Black ???? = Patterned Jacquard Weave Fabric and Cordagrain Seat Back – Blue (Optional) ???? = Patterned Jacquard Weave Fabric and Cordagrain Seat Back – Black (Optional) ???? = Patterned Jacquard Weave Fabric and Cordagrain Seat Back – Green (Optional) Coronet Lancer Convertible, Suburban and Sierra Station Wagons 826 = Figured Cordagrain – Green 827 = Figured Cordagrain – Blue 828 = Figured Cordagrain –Black and White Royal Sedan 534 = Figured Jacquard Weave Fabric and Cordagrain – Green 535 = Figured Jacquard Weave Fabric and Cordagrain – Blue 536 = Figured Jacquard Weave Fabric and Cordagrain – Silvery Black ???? = Figured Jacquard Weave Fabric and Cordagrain – Red (maybe Code No. 532 or No. 533) Royal Lancer Hardtops 537 = Figured Jacquard Weave Fabric and Cordagrain – Green 538 = Figured Jacquard Weave Fabric and Cordagrain – Blue 539 = Figured Jacquard Weave Fabric and Cordagrain – Silvery Black ???? = Figured Jacquard Weave Fabric and Cordagrain – Red (maybe Code No. 532 or No. 533) Royal Custom Suburban and Custom Sierra Station Wagons 826 = Two Tone Patterned Cordagrain – Green 827 = Two Tone Patterned Cordagrain – Blue 828 = Two Tone Patterned Cordagrain –Black and White Custom Royal Sedan 540 = Two Tone Patterned Jacquard Weave Fabric and Pleated Cordagrain – Green 541 = Two Tone Patterned Jacquard Weave Fabric and Pleated Cordagrain – Blue 542 = Two Tone Patterned Jacquard Weave Fabric and Pleated Cordagrain – Silvery Black Custom Royal Lancer Hardtops 543 = Two Tone Patterned Jacquard Weave Fabric and Pleated Cordagrain – Green 544 = Two Tone Patterned Jacquard Weave Fabric and Pleated Cordagrain – Blue 545 = Two Tone Patterned Jacquard Weave Fabric and Pleated Cordagrain – Silvery Black Custom Royal Lancer LaFemme Hardtop 546 = Two Tone Patterned Jacquard Weave Fabric and Pleated Cordagrain – Rose and Gold Custom Royal Lancer Convertible (Has Code No. 835, but no color info) ???? = Two Tone Patterned Cordagrain – Green ???? = Two Tone Patterned Cordagrain – Blue ???? = Two Tone Patterned Cordagrain –Black and White Thanks. | ||
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Regular Posts: 74 | . Hello Robert (RDP). Describe your car or just attach the pictures of cowl tag and built card better… For 1956 Chrysler I recommend next items (Y / N): Full Flow Oil Filter Single Exhaust System Lights – Automatic Entrance Lights – Back up Lights – Dual Directional Signals Lights – Glove Box Lights – Hand Brake Warning Flasher Lights – Luggage Compartment Lights – Map Lights – Rear Door Dome Lights – Rear License Plate Cigar Lighters Assist Handles – Rear Air Foam Seat Cushions Windshield Wipers Windshield Washer Sun Visors – Inside Sun Cap Visor – Outside Rear Folding Center Arm Rest Safety Cushion Dash Panel Custom Steering Wheel Transmission – Manual Transmission – Automatic PowerFlite Transmission – Automatic TorqueFlite Power Steering Power Brakes Power Seat Four Way Power Windows Radio – Music Master Radio – Electro Touch Tuner Radio – Rear Seat Speaker Highway HiFi Phonograph Antenna – Manual Antenna – Manual Dual Antenna – Manual Extra Long Antenna – Power Heater Heater – Instant Gasoline Air Conditioning Solex Tinted Glass – All Windows Solex Tinted Glass – Windshield only Mirror – Inside Prismatic Mirror – Inside Vanity Mirror – Outside Rear View Left Clock – Electric Clock – Self Winding, Steering Wheel Floor Mat – Rubber Floor Mat – Carpet Carpets Removable Rear Kiddie Seat Outer Bumper Guards – Front Chrome Rear License Plate Frame Exhaust Pipe Extension Undercoating Chrome Stainless Steel Wheel Covers White Side Wall Tires Wire Wheels Special Two Tone Paint Pictures of inside and outside views, engine bay are will helps also… I have never seen M8 = 8 combination, M8 = 3 or M8 = 4 only (maybe it is just your typo…) P.S.: Is this your car? (1.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 1.jpg (206KB - 3 downloads) | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 669 Location: PL / EU | Igor, not this one, I have Nassau. My card is a bit blurred, I can't read some of the numbers. Does anyone have a readable LA card? My car options: custom steering whell, power steering, power brakes, powerflite, Music Master radio + rear spaker+manual antenna, solex glass all, heater, carpet, two tone paint, windshield washer, backup lights, glovebox light, luggage light,handbrake warning light, dash pad, vanity mirror, undercoating 344 Hardy Governor 353 PowerFlite 361 Solex All Window 381 Airfoam Seat 385 428 451 469 473 Tires I don't know what means that single 8 marked „?”. SG=1 EW M1=1 M2 M3 M4 M5=1 M6 M7 M8=8 M9=8 M1 = 381 ???, M5 = 451 ??? Edited by RDP 2019-12-04 4:21 PM (Chrysler (1).jpg) (Chrysler (2).jpg) (Chrysler (3).jpg) (Chrysler (4).jpg) Attachments ---------------- Chrysler (1).jpg (222KB - 2 downloads) Chrysler (2).jpg (204KB - 3 downloads) Chrysler (3).jpg (97KB - 2 downloads) Chrysler (4).jpg (30KB - 2 downloads) | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 5399 Location: Lower Mainland BC | RDP - 2019-12-04 1:16 PM. My card is a bit blurred, I can't read some of the numbers. Does anyone have a readable LA card? Where did you find that sheet of paper with all the codes? Here is my LA 56 Dodge card. Not the best but it might help. (DForgies56D500BuildCard_trimmed_small.jpg) (DForgies56D500BuildCard_AlignedAndNotated_small.jpg) Attachments ---------------- DForgies56D500BuildCard_trimmed_small.jpg (222KB - 3 downloads) DForgies56D500BuildCard_AlignedAndNotated_small.jpg (155KB - 3 downloads) | ||
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Regular Posts: 74 | . Hello Robert. According to 1956 Plymouth Order Codes (see the first attached picture): 344 = Handy Governor (but it is for Plymouth 6 cylinder only) 353 = Powerflite Transmission 361 = Solex Tinted Glass in all window areas 381 = Air Foam Seat Cushions (front only) 385 = Rear Auxiliary Seat with Air Foam Seat Cushions (but this option for Wagons only) 428 = Exterior Body Trim Package (no idea what came on Windsors at extra, except Sun Cap Visor, Front Bumper Outer Guards or a Side Sweep Mouldings; Plymouth range from 421 to 425) 451 = Electric Clock 469 = Battery (no idea about Amperes capacity) 473 = 6.70 x 15 White Side Wall Tubeless Tires 4-Ply (set of 5) Single 8 marked „?” 1) Probably 458 = Undercoating (although this is not in order in your optional codes row) 2) Route 8 (or Tracer) = Delivery Route by Rail… (see «8» in the top right corner on the built card) I have attached a ’56 New Yorker Newport built card, but top right corner is still hard to see… SG1 = 1 is a Solex Glass M5 = 1 maybe means manual antenna (2 = dual rear fender antennas) For others – no 100% info, speculations only (Order Codes.jpg) (with sweep molding.JPG) (without sweep moulding.JPG) (New Yorker Newport.JPG) Attachments ---------------- Order Codes.jpg (136KB - 2 downloads) with sweep molding.JPG (95KB - 2 downloads) without sweep moulding.JPG (98KB - 2 downloads) New Yorker Newport.JPG (156KB - 2 downloads) | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 5399 Location: Lower Mainland BC | RDP - 2019-12-05 8:50 AM Dave, the sheet was in the rear seat springs. This a few pieces self-copying pages. Dave, Igor I know a few 56 LA cards, all blurred. These small code numbers are impossible to read. The right side is always worse. I think we could figure out the numbers. It's the text that I can't read. See below. An attempt to clarify the text (with failures) (SectionOf56LAIBMCard_Annotated.jpg) Attachments ---------------- SectionOf56LAIBMCard_Annotated.jpg (223KB - 1 downloads) | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 669 Location: PL / EU | I found on the forum Dieter (di_ch_NY56) New Yorker tag: http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=30829&... di_ch_NY56 - 2010-05-21 10:56 PM SG 5 M3 5 M8 4 M9 8 SCHED 0214 NO 0115 MODEL C721 BT 042 PT 407 TR 20 Factory power brakes, power steering, warm water heating system, dealer option: manual windshield washer, one side mirror IBM card shown by Igor comes from Dierer's car (DSC949.JPG) Attachments ---------------- DSC949.JPG (176KB - 1 downloads) | ||
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Regular Posts: 74 | . Yes. This is Dieter’s Chrysler. Another puzzling cowl tag from WCD-LA. For example: What SG5 is mean? I can see a solex glass all around, it should be SG1!!! Maybe SG5 means solex glass + windshield washer? This is not. Windshield Washer is a standard on ’56 New Yorkers. Maybe solex glass + sun cap visor? No, that standard ’56 NY too… What’s this? I have no idea. Detroit code says that 1 = Solex Glass – all, 2 = Solex Glass – windshield only, while separate column says 5 = sun cap visor, 7 = outer front bumper guard, 9 = sun cap visor and outer front bumper guard together… If I point out the parallels with his Detroit’s cousins, where number 4 decodes heater, and 8 decodes radio Music Master (6 push buttons) + rear seat speaker, we can see these on M8 = 4 and M9 = 8 positions. But this is wrong too… (1.JPG) (2.JPG) (3.jpg) (4.JPG) (5.JPG) Attachments ---------------- 1.JPG (180KB - 0 downloads) 2.JPG (188KB - 0 downloads) 3.jpg (74KB - 0 downloads) 4.JPG (111KB - 0 downloads) 5.JPG (93KB - 0 downloads) | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 669 Location: PL / EU | I'm sorry, Dave, but I think we stole your thread. It was not intended. Only M9 = 8 is the same in the Dieter tag and my tag. 5 = sun cap visor, 7 = outer front bumper guard, 9 = sun cap visor and outer front bumper guard ------- it's options for Windsor both cars have MM radio+r speaker+ m antenna I wonder if this is correct, I only guess: (guesswork.jpg) Attachments ---------------- guesswork.jpg (191KB - 0 downloads) | ||
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Regular Posts: 74 | . Maybe you are right about M9 = 8 that means Radio Music Master. But Dave’s Dodge has M9 = 4, but his car is NOT equipped with any radio. What do you say? (get-attachment.jpg) Attachments ---------------- get-attachment.jpg (146KB - 0 downloads) | ||
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