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Posted 2019-12-12 12:56 PM (#591497 - in reply to #591448)
Subject: Re: 56 Dodge Custom Royal 4dr Sedan



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frwl - 2019-12-10 8:30 PM

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Have one idea… thanks to Nathan aka «Powerflite»
His car has manual brakes, manual steering, and no options except for a V8, powerflite, radio and heater
Cowl tag shows M8 = 3 and M9 = 8 – see above

Assuming that M8 = 3 is 353 = Powerflite (while M8 = 2 is a 352 = Overdrive), M9 = 8 might be 358 = Music master Radio (while M9 = 9 is 359 = Search Tune Radio)
The heater code is 355. If a car has equipped with Heater and Music Radio both – these codes 355 and 358 are occupies M9 column together, and 355 + 358 (last 5 + last 8 = 13 – last 3, i.e. M9 = 3)
Because heater and radio codes beginnings from 35…

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Powerflite - 2019-12-11 5:33 PM

From my experience with the '57-'58 cars, I can tell you that the Los Angeles M codes contain a lot of different options all jammed into each code. For instance, my '57 New Yorker has numerous options from dual rear antennae, 7 button radio, solex glass, rear speaker, rear defroster, power brakes, quad headlights, power windows, heater etc, and a lot of the New Yorker standard stuff like power steering & clock, but everything is condensed down into 3 codes: EW:5 (I'm not sure this is even one of the codes!), M1:4, M2:9. Also, the M codes only go from M1 through M6.

I'm sure that these codes became more condensed for '57 than they are in '56, but I wouldn't be surprised if multiple options are included into each M code like they are in '57-up.



if it's true, decrypting M codes is very difficult or completely impossible
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frwl
Posted 2019-12-13 8:14 AM (#591530 - in reply to #555178)
Subject: RE: 56 Dodge Custom Royal 4dr Sedan


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Hello Nathan.
You said earlier about your ’56 Plymouth Savoy:
«… the car has manual brakes, manual steering, and no options except for a V8, powerflite, radio, heater».
Tell me, please:
What kind of radio installed in your car?
Does your car have a rear seat speaker?
Has your heater equipped with defroster motor?

Thanks.
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Powerflite
Posted 2019-12-13 11:05 AM (#591533 - in reply to #555178)
Subject: RE: 56 Dodge Custom Royal 4dr Sedan



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My '56 Savoy:
glass isn't tinted
no rear seat speaker
no rear defroster
I had to look at the original pictures of my car to see that the radio had no push buttons either. It had a flat face on it with fake indents where the buttons would go. Really cheap!



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56D500boy
Posted 2019-12-13 12:01 PM (#591537 - in reply to #591533)
Subject: RE: 56 Dodge Custom Royal 4dr Sedan



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Powerflite - 2019-12-13 8:05 AM
no rear defroster


I think the question was do you have a front windshield defroster motor and switch?

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frwl
Posted 2019-12-13 2:28 PM (#591544 - in reply to #555178)
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Yes. I mean heater with defroster (Dave – Thanks for correction) highlighted in red on the picture below.
But info about rear window defroster very appreciated too…
So, summary what we have with M8=3 and M9=8 codes: Automatic Transmission, Heater and NO Radio – right?
Thanks again.

P.S. Nathan, Besides EW=5 (Power Windows), column M1 = 4 in your ’57 New Yorker body tag says that your car does have 6 Way Power Seat – you forgot it in your listing.
And M2=9, probably, should be some accessory group which includes Solex Glass, that absent in SG column…





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Powerflite
Posted 2019-12-13 3:02 PM (#591547 - in reply to #555178)
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I'll have to check on the defroster switch, I've never used it. But I suspect that it does have it.
My Savoy does have a radio, just no pushbuttons on it.
You're right about the power seat in the '57 New Yorker, I forgot to include it. So you are saying that all the rest of the options are bundled into M2=9? Or did they just not bother to put everything on the tag?

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frwl
Posted 2019-12-13 3:39 PM (#591552 - in reply to #555178)
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You told that your car has equipped with solex glass.
This item must be stamped by number below SG letters definitely.
So, if SG column (Solex Glass) is empty, I just suspect that it option might be (probably) included in accessory group with number 9.
For example, like in this DeSoto Accessory Groups on the picture below…
Where besides tinted glass might be mirrors, sun visors, windshield washer, variable speed wipers etc…
But I have not reliable information about it…




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frwl
Posted 2019-12-13 3:55 PM (#591554 - in reply to #555178)
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Or this example, I have found.
It’s 57 New Yorker 4door Hardtop equipped with solex glass and power seat and no power windows (EW is empty)
SG column numbered by 5 (Solex Glass) and M1=4 (Power Seat), but M2 column is empty.
But your car SG is empty, but M2=9. Might be solex glass including in it
That what I mean…




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56D500boy
Posted 2019-12-13 4:31 PM (#591555 - in reply to #591544)
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frwl - 2019-12-13 11:28 AM.
Yes. I mean heater with defroster (Dave – Thanks for correction) highlighted in red on the picture below.
So, summary what we have with M8=3 and M9=8 codes: Automatic Transmission, Heater and NO Radio – right?


I don't know if this is all directed at me or not. My 56 Dodge has Solex glass all round, PS, PB, Powerflite automatic, heater and front defroster and NO radio. M8 = 3 *BUT* M9 = 4.

My tag (from the first post in this thread):



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Powerflite
Posted 2019-12-13 4:37 PM (#591558 - in reply to #591554)
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frwl - 2019-12-13 12:55 PM
Or this example, I have found.
It’s 57 New Yorker 4door Hardtop equipped with solex glass and power seat and no power windows (EW is empty)
SG column numbered by 5 (Solex Glass) and M1=4 (Power Seat), but M2 column is empty.
But your car SG is empty, but M2=9. Might be solex glass including in it
That what I mean…


I understand what you are saying. That makes sense, but makes it a lot harder to figure out. This is a picture of my '57NY tag, and indeed it has nothing indicated in the SG column.



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