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What are you guys torquing your lug nuts at?
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bad58mike
Posted 2017-12-29 1:11 PM (#555187)
Subject: What are you guys torquing your lug nuts at?



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I’m sure it’s been discussed before, but just curious what you guys are torquing your lug nuts at.

I’ve found this general spec sheet
Hat says the following




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bad58mike
Posted 2017-12-29 1:14 PM (#555188 - in reply to #555187)
Subject: Re: What are you guys torquing your lug nuts at?



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I’m torquing my factory steel wheels on my 58 Plymouth at 70lbs and 85lbs on my aluminum aftermarket 15’wheels on my 59 Dodge Coronet.
Both my cars have the 1/2-20 studs.

Let me know what you guys think

Thanks
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wizard
Posted 2017-12-29 2:52 PM (#555195 - in reply to #555187)
Subject: Re: What are you guys torquing your lug nuts at?



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I'm torquing the factory steel Wheels to 88 lbs (120Nm) (1/2-20 unf grade 10.9 bolts and nuts, up to 104 lbs (141Nm))
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ttotired
Posted 2017-12-29 4:30 PM (#555201 - in reply to #555187)
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3 dooka dooka's on the rattle gun or 3 clicks of the elbow using a wheel brace

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1960fury
Posted 2017-12-29 4:59 PM (#555204 - in reply to #555195)
Subject: Re: What are you guys torquing your lug nuts at?



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wizard - 2017-12-29 2:52 PM

I'm torquing the factory steel Wheels to 88 lbs (120Nm) (1/2-20 unf grade 10.9 bolts and nuts, up to 104 lbs (141Nm))


fsm calls for 65 lbs, iirc! this has not much to do with the grade of steel of the wheel studs, its the wheel and the seat for the lug nuts. do not overtighten lug nuts. if you overtighten you damage the (steel) wheel and the nuts can touch the drum. you lose the intended "spring action" .

Edited by 1960fury 2017-12-30 9:26 AM
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1960fury
Posted 2017-12-29 5:05 PM (#555205 - in reply to #555187)
Subject: RE: What are you guys torquing your lug nuts at?



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bad58mike - 2017-12-29 1:11 PM

I’m sure it’s been discussed before, but just curious what you guys are torquing your lug nuts at.

I’ve found this general spec sheet
Hat says the following


forget that sheet, just follow the fsm with OE wheels.
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RUSTORICHES
Posted 2017-12-29 6:31 PM (#555211 - in reply to #555201)
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ttotired - 2017-12-29 2:30 PM

3 dooka dooka's on the rattle gun or 3 clicks of the elbow using a wheel brace

Don't forget your lefthand threads ……………… in your 3 dooka dooka's…LOL
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mstrug
Posted 2017-12-29 8:44 PM (#555219 - in reply to #555187)
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I wouldn't go below 75 foot pounds.
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1960fury
Posted 2017-12-30 9:24 AM (#555228 - in reply to #555219)
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mstrug - 2017-12-29 8:44 PM

I wouldn't go below 75 foot pounds.


with factory wheels? Why not? 65 foot pounds is what they get. read my post above.
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Powerflite
Posted 2017-12-30 10:05 AM (#555229 - in reply to #555201)
Subject: Re: What are you guys torquing your lug nuts at?



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ttotired - 2017-12-29 1:30 PM

3 dooka dooka's on the rattle gun or 3 clicks of the elbow using a wheel brace



I do the same thing. I torque them until they are tight.
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zrxkawboy
Posted 2018-01-03 6:30 PM (#555555 - in reply to #555205)
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1960fury - 2017-12-29 4:05 PM

[ just follow the fsm with OE wheels.


agreed
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Richbo
Posted 2018-01-10 10:59 AM (#555977 - in reply to #555187)
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This question is gettin' kinda personal !!!!
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bad58mike
Posted 2018-01-10 1:37 PM (#555989 - in reply to #555187)
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ok FSM makes sense for the steel wheels @65 ft pounds,

with my aluminum aftermarket wheels I'll do 80 foot pounds on the 1/2 wheel studs
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LostDeere59
Posted 2018-01-10 6:09 PM (#556012 - in reply to #555187)
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I like to tighten them till they start to get loose, then back off a half turn.

Then I take a drilling hammer and pound the extra end of the stud down over the lugnut to hold it tight.

Never had one fall off that way . . . .


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Powerflite
Posted 2018-01-10 10:09 PM (#556024 - in reply to #555187)
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matte
Posted 2018-06-23 6:03 PM (#565515 - in reply to #556012)
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LostDeere59 - 2018-01-10 6:09 PM


I like to tighten them till they start to get loose, then back off a half turn.

Then I take a drilling hammer and pound the extra end of the stud down over the lugnut to hold it tight.

Never had one fall off that way . . . .


Gregg


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Lancer Mike
Posted 2018-06-23 10:48 PM (#565522 - in reply to #565515)
Subject: RE: What are you guys torquing your lug nuts at?



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I tighten mine to uuugh to the uuumhp!

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Greg P.
Posted 2018-07-04 5:07 PM (#566032 - in reply to #565522)
Subject: RE: What are you guys torquing your lug nuts at?



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Tighten until the stud snaps, then back off half a turn...

Seriously, I don't think I've EVER used a torque wrench on a lug nut. I just get them "tight enough until it feels right" with my 4-way lug wrench. I've used a real torque wrench enough times to estimate about 50 ft-lbs, but that's just my guess. I don't think the tolerance of lug nuts is overly critical. I've never had a wheel come off or nut loosen up in 40+ years of driving these cars; at least not on any of my cars.

I have been a passenger in a car where the wheel came off. I believe it was in a 69 Fairlane, just as we were coming to a stop. It was pretty surreal to see the wheel and tire continue to travel down the road ahead of us. It rolled a very long way. In this case, the owner had been doing some brake work, hand-tightened the nuts with the car on the jacks with the intent to fully torque them when the car was back on the ground. But in his eagerness to road test the car, he forgot.

I agree that overtightening can cause problems. I've seen a few steel wheels where the lug holes have been enlarged to the point where the tapered end of the nut is fully contacting the brake drum. That's not a good thing.

As an aside, the biggest problems I've had with lug nuts/studs has been galling of threads. This is especially common on older cars that have been sitting for a long time or otherwise neglected where the threads are dry and/or corroded. Using air tools can greatly exacerbate this problem since the higher speed created more heat and more galling.

Also, for many years, I've been using a little anti-seize on the stud threads with good results. I'm curious if any of you are doing that or using other lubricants?
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Powerflite
Posted 2018-07-04 7:51 PM (#566038 - in reply to #555187)
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I just use a little motor oil on them. It works well, but I don't really have issues removing anything here because it doesn't rain much & almost never snows.
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