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56D500boy
Posted 2017-12-30 2:00 PM (#555247)
Subject: 56 Dodge Upper Radiator Hose PN



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I think the OE PN is 1639 772. Nothing relevant shows up on a Google search.

I found this photo in a Volo website (a 56 Dodge surprise surprise)



The shop manual has "Top Radiator Hose Gates # 20475" written on it. So I Googled "Gates 20475 hose" and got a couple of hits:

Global: http://www.globalindustrial.ca/p/vehicle-fleet-maintenance/automoti... $25 but out of stock.



Amazon: https://www.amazon.ca/Gates-20475-Lower-Radiator-Hose/dp/B000C2UACE

It says lower at $53.



Jegs: http://www.jegs.com/i/Gates/465/20475/10002/-1 $17.95

eBay: https://www.ebay.com/p/Radiator-Coolant-Hose-Molded-Coolant-Hose-Gat... $15.95 with free shipping (slow boat)



Rock Auto: http://www.rockauto.com/en/parts/gates,20475,radiator+lower+hose,20... (ends up CDN $19.63 with shipping to US mail drop - about the same as eBay)

Most of the above say "Lower". But even if it is the Lower hose, big deal, I will have a spare/replacement lower rad hose.

What I have now for Upper bugs me:

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57chizler
Posted 2017-12-30 5:37 PM (#555265 - in reply to #555247)
Subject: RE: 56 Dodge Upper Radiator Hose PN



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56D500boy - 2017-12-30 11:00 AM

What I have now for Upper bugs me


Join the club, one of my pet peeves too; nothing ruins an otherwise nice engine compartment more than an accordion hose.
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DepsilonD
Posted 2018-01-02 11:37 AM (#555443 - in reply to #555247)
Subject: Re: 56 Dodge Upper Radiator Hose PN



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I have a non-accordinion hose on my '56 that was installed a few years back. Let me see if I can pull a part number for you.
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56D500boy
Posted 2018-01-04 7:24 PM (#555632 - in reply to #555443)
Subject: Re: 56 Dodge Upper Radiator Hose PN



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DepsilonD - 2018-01-02 11:37 AM
I have a non-accordinion hose on my '56 that was installed a few years back. Let me see if I can pull a part number for you.


Please do. In the meantime, one of the two Gates 20475s I ordered (two different sources) (this one from Rock Auto) arrived. It looks like it would work in the upper position with a bit of trimming. Not sure about the lower position.

I'm showing a photo of the existing lower hose for reference, then the Gates 20475 beside the new bendy hose I put on earlier this year.





Edited by 56D500boy 2018-01-04 7:26 PM




(56DodgeD500LowerRadHose_Stock.jpg)



(56DodgeD500UpperRadHoseBendyGatesWithFormedGates20475.jpg)



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56D500boy
Posted 2018-01-13 5:18 PM (#556167 - in reply to #555632)
Subject: Re: 56 Dodge Upper Radiator Hose PN



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After I posted the above photo of the first Gates 20475 hose that I got (from Rock Auto), I contacted DepsilonD (David N.) who I know has a 56 Dodge Custom Royal Lancer with a 315 poly engine and asked him about his upper rad hose. He told me that he looked but didn't have any part number details in his file. However he was good enough to send me a photo (see below). That hose had no manufacturer info but it did have some numbers, i.e. EBPO 80MH70. I thanked him, noting that the first Gates 20475 that I got did not have those numbers, it had EBPO 17H16XDW, instead. I then started the search for 80MH70. I came up dry. David N. emailed and indicated that he had searched and he too had come up dry.

A few days passed and the second hose that I ordered, this time off eBay, showed up. Turns out it too was a Gates 20475. When I got it home, I compared it to the first one, size and shape-wise, seems slightly different but 98% the same. When I looked at the 20475 label on the second hose, I could see "0MH70" beside it. WHAATT!!?? I peeled the label off and low, and behold, EBPO 80MH70, the same as on David N's hose (but the markings are different font and size-wise)

Now I presume that since EBPO 17H16XDW and EBPO 80MH70 seem to be the same shape and size, those numbers might not be part numbers but lot numbers, more to do with the manufacturing of the hose material than the forming of the raw hose into specific shape. I don't know. What I do know (okay "think") is David N's hose is really Gates 20475. Regardless, when the weather gets warmer, I'm going to install one of my 20475s instead of that corrugated monster and see if it works.

To be honest, I don't think the 20475 is the correct hose because of the quite abrupt 90 deg bend rather than a nice smooth radius bend. However, until I find something better, the 20475 is at least corrugation-free.

First photo is courtesy of David N.




Edited by 56D500boy 2018-01-13 5:34 PM




(DaveNsUpperRadHose.jpg)



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DepsilonD
Posted 2018-01-15 12:44 PM (#556298 - in reply to #555247)
Subject: Re: 56 Dodge Upper Radiator Hose PN



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I look forward to seeing how it fits when you install it.
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56D500boy
Posted 2018-08-03 7:59 PM (#567755 - in reply to #556298)
Subject: Re: 56 Dodge Upper Radiator Hose PN



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DepsilonD - 2018-01-15 12:44 PM
I look forward to seeing how it fits when you install it.


Me too.

In the meantime, I saw a Gates 22896 on a 56 Coronet with a D500 engine so I started to chase that one. So far I found that an ACDelco 22050M is close to the Gates 22896 so I bought that. Looks promising. I found a Gates 22986 (with a 90?? new number). It will be in tomorrow. I can always use the 20475 as the lower rad hose so no loss if these others work out.





(56CoronetD500WithGates22896Hose.jpg)



(ACDelco22050M_with_Gates20475.jpg)



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56D500boy
Posted 2018-08-04 2:42 PM (#567800 - in reply to #567755)
Subject: Re: 56 Dodge Upper Radiator Hose PN



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Ordered the Gates 22896 through my local NAPA. Arrived today. Shows as a NAPA 9531. Has the same "EBPO 80MH70" as the other hoses so I presume that that is the material designation not the actual hose.

NAPA 951 compared to the AC Delco 22505M (all of these will work more or less):

For what it's worth, RockAuto has the Gates 22896 for much less than what I paid:

https://www.rockauto.com/en/parts/gates,22896,radiator+upper+hose,20...

And yes, I am a "Canadian Hoser" (if you were wondering)





Edited by 56D500boy 2018-08-04 3:27 PM




(Gates22896NowNAPA9531withACDelco22505M.jpg)



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