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mikes2nd
Posted 2018-02-15 4:50 PM (#558158)
Subject: 1957 300C hood hinge and spring color?


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anyone know what color the hinge and spring should be on a 300C?

I see mostly repaints paint the hinge and spring the same body color.

But I am seeing the original color is silver hinge with a black spring.

THe original 57 new yorker i saw had the silver hinge and black springs.

Thanks

 





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big m
Posted 2018-02-15 5:55 PM (#558165 - in reply to #558158)
Subject: Re: 1957 300C hood hinge and spring color?



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As far as I know, they were red like most other FL cars.

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ronbo97
Posted 2018-02-15 6:50 PM (#558169 - in reply to #558165)
Subject: Re: 1957 300C hood hinge and spring color?


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Wayne Graefen's 300C Restorers Handbook says that hood springs and hinges are body color.

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mikes2nd
Posted 2018-02-15 9:03 PM (#558174 - in reply to #558158)
Subject: Re: 1957 300C hood hinge and spring color?


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new Yorkers are all showing silver and black... Saratogas look like body color... they spent more time an effort on a new Yorker than a 300C? hmm or they used a base Saratoga?



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LD3 Greg
Posted 2018-02-15 10:31 PM (#558179 - in reply to #558174)
Subject: Re: 1957 300C hood hinge and spring color?


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New Yorkers were body colour from the factory.

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57burb
Posted 2018-02-16 12:07 AM (#558184 - in reply to #558179)
Subject: Re: 1957 300C hood hinge and spring color?



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There may be differences between plants.

I can say for certain, on both my Detroit built 57 New Yorkers, the hinges and springs were painted body color. My green car had an obnoxiously thick bright yellow inspection paint mark on both sides - over 1/8" thick!
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LD3 Greg
Posted 2018-02-16 1:12 AM (#558189 - in reply to #558184)
Subject: Re: 1957 300C hood hinge and spring color?


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57burb - 2018-02-16 12:07 AM

There may be differences between plants.

I can say for certain, on both my Detroit built 57 New Yorkers, the hinges and springs were painted body color. My green car had an obnoxiously thick bright yellow inspection paint mark on both sides - over 1/8" thick!


Agreed! 300 Cs and NY ers were built in Detroit. Hood hinges and springs were body colour. End of story!!

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mikes2nd
Posted 2018-02-16 1:36 AM (#558191 - in reply to #558158)
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dude I have a factory untouched 57 Yorker wagon that is silver/annodized and black. It has the patina and everything to prove its original and its silver and black cross my fingers.

maybe there was something going on, maybe there was a silver and black fairy I just see these show up for some reason in about 15% of the cars and I don't think its just happening for no reason.
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Posted 2018-02-16 2:41 AM (#558193 - in reply to #558169)
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ronbo97 - 2018-02-15 11:50 PM

Wayne Graefen's 300C Restorers Handbook says that hood springs and hinges are body color.

Ron



For the question about the color I also directly thinking of Wayne's Handbook
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StillOutThere
Posted 2018-02-16 7:32 AM (#558197 - in reply to #558158)
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The hood hinges and springs were attached to the cowl when the 300Cs were painted. The "doghouse" of front fenders and inner fenders and grille were attached next. If you will look through the 300C Handbook factory painting explanation of the assembly line, you will find that information. Also, all 300Cs were assembled at the same plant so there were no variations of procedure.
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mikes2nd
Posted 2018-02-16 9:24 AM (#558199 - in reply to #558158)
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while that may be true for 300C's, I think some new Yorkers went out differently.
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Posted 2018-02-16 9:30 AM (#558201 - in reply to #558189)
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LD3 Greg - 2018-02-16 6:12 AM

57burb - 2018-02-16 12:07 AM

There may be differences between plants.

I can say for certain, on both my Detroit built 57 New Yorkers, the hinges and springs were painted body color. My green car had an obnoxiously thick bright yellow inspection paint mark on both sides - over 1/8" thick!


Agreed! 300 Cs and NY ers were built in Detroit. Hood hinges and springs were body colour. End of story!!

Greg


Greg was the hood also painted on the body same as the fenders etc?
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LD3 Greg
Posted 2018-02-16 10:40 AM (#558204 - in reply to #558201)
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springsweptwing - 2018-02-16 9:30 AM

LD3 Greg - 2018-02-16 6:12 AM

57burb - 2018-02-16 12:07 AM

There may be differences between plants.

I can say for certain, on both my Detroit built 57 New Yorkers, the hinges and springs were painted body color. My green car had an obnoxiously thick bright yellow inspection paint mark on both sides - over 1/8" thick!


Agreed! 300 Cs and NY ers were built in Detroit. Hood hinges and springs were body colour. End of story!!

Greg


Greg was the hood also painted on the body same as the fenders etc?


Yes it was! There is bare steel under the hinge attachments to the cowl and hood! Not that any of us would do it that way today!
Furthermore, on a factory original car, there is no evidence that the hood or hinges were ever adjusted after paint.

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Posted 2018-02-16 10:52 AM (#558205 - in reply to #558204)
Subject: Re: 1957 300C hood hinge and spring color?



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Took a look through some old photos. Note the body-color painted hinges on both 57 NYers.

Also note that when the front clip was removed from the gray car, there is A LOT of bare exposed steel. Anything on the firewall not painted gray just lived for 60 years unprotected.



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57burb
Posted 2018-02-16 10:54 AM (#558206 - in reply to #558158)
Subject: Re: 1957 300C hood hinge and spring color?



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Maybe your silver/black hinges are service replacements. I'd be interested to know how the firewall was finished underneath the hinges.

If it's bare steel, then someone has replaced them after the car was built. If it's body color, we have a mystery. :D
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mikes2nd
Posted 2018-02-16 11:48 AM (#558214 - in reply to #558158)
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the 57 new Yorker with the silver/black was a LA plant car...
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Posted 2018-02-16 4:33 PM (#558225 - in reply to #558214)
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On a slightly different note.....I sold a bunch of repro hood springs for 57-59 FL cars. Maybe 45 pairs. Of all those, only one person with a 57 300C had an issue, returning them with the comment that they were way different. In looking the pics above, they sure look the same. I never got to the bottom of that one....
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mikes2nd
Posted 2018-02-16 4:46 PM (#558227 - in reply to #558158)
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you still selling them? Yours on ebay now?
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LD3 Greg
Posted 2018-02-17 12:09 AM (#558245 - in reply to #558205)
Subject: Re: 1957 300C hood hinge and spring color?


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57burb - 2018-02-16 10:52 AM

Took a look through some old photos. Note the body-color painted hinges on both 57 NYers.

Also note that when the front clip was removed from the gray car, there is A LOT of bare exposed steel. Anything on the firewall not painted gray just lived for 60 years unprotected.


Danny. Thanks for posting those pics. It was a bit of a shock to me when I first discovered all that bare metal!!

To deviate from the topic, that is an interesting A/C evaporator photo. It shows 57 only expansion valve and thermal switch that would be enclosed in the plastic housing. For 58, the expansion valve was outside the housing along side the right fender and the thermal switch was located inside the car, under the dash, and probed the evaporator core through a tiny rubber grommet.

Greg

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