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Powerflite
Posted 2020-04-05 11:42 AM (#596462 - in reply to #560824)
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JPMopar, it looks like your key-ring is part of the 33rd anniversary "Bell Ringer" sale like in the '55 ads for Hub Motor. I really like that business card you shared. Pretty cool. Mine from Bank Motors is of a similar design.



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Posted 2020-04-05 1:27 PM (#596465 - in reply to #560824)
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This is the emblem that was on the back of my Regal lancer...   Emblem was fairly small, they owned a Ford dealership also.



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Posted 2020-04-05 1:50 PM (#596467 - in reply to #596465)
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jpmopar
Posted 2020-04-06 2:36 PM (#596506 - in reply to #596462)
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Powerflite - 2020-04-05 11:42 AM

JPMopar, it looks like your key-ring is part of the 33rd anniversary "Bell Ringer" sale like in the '55 ads for Hub Motor's


I was thinking the key-ring was from 1952, since that's the year of the "160 HP" Firedome (that's stamped on the key-ring). In 1955, wasn't the Firedome rated at 185 HP?

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RDP
Posted 2020-04-06 2:42 PM (#596508 - in reply to #596454)
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jpmopar - 2020-04-05 8:42 AM

Here's a couple items from my hometown Forwardlook dealer, Bastian Motors, which burned down in 1961 and did not reopen. The dark circles showing through the Desoto key chain is from someone pressing a car's cigarette lighter to the back of it, melting the plastic. I think it's cool that the key chain (from 1952-53) mimics the shape of a hemi combustion chamber.




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RDP
Posted 2020-04-06 2:49 PM (#596509 - in reply to #596456)
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1957sotos - 2020-04-05 2:28 PM

Great thread and interesting info!
Anyone notice the Art Frost underhood photo (page 1), showing a 57 Flite w/o hood insulation and appearing to have vacuum windshield washers? In contrast,
the page 2 photo of AC Elkins shows a 58 Flite with hood insulation and a foot washer pump.

Received the FCA build cards for my 57's. The Flite came from #89041 Polk dealership in Alexandria Va. The Dome came from #36947 Bob Bauer in San Diego Calif.

Great service.


Thanks for the dealership numbers. I'm build a dealership list, available soon.


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Powerflite
Posted 2020-04-06 2:55 PM (#596511 - in reply to #560824)
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I was thinking the key-ring was from 1952, since that's the year of the "160 HP" Firedome (that's stamped on the key-ring). In 1955, wasn't the Firedome rated at 185 HP?



That ad must be celebrating a 33rd anniversary of Hub Motors because DeSoto didn't come into being until late 1928, and Chrysler in 1925. Your bell shaped key-ring may be celebrating some other anniversary.

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jpmopar
Posted 2020-04-06 3:51 PM (#596512 - in reply to #596508)
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jpmopar - 2020-04-05 8:42 AM

Here's a couple items from my hometown Forwardlook dealer, Bastian Motors, which burned down in 1961 and did not reopen. The dark circles showing through the Desoto key chain is from someone pressing a car's cigarette lighter to the back of it, melting the plastic. I think it's cool that the key chain (from 1952-53) mimics the shape of a hemi combustion chamber.




Bastian Motors, Bastian, VA



This is the photo I'd posted to both Jalopy Journal and Kustomrama years back. That custom car is the Donz Lancer and it was briefly on display at Bastian Motors back in the mid-50's. Here's the link to the Kustomrama page:

https://kustomrama.com/wiki/Donz_Lancer

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Posted 2020-04-06 4:19 PM (#596514 - in reply to #596512)
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"The car was built on a shortened 1952 Chrysler Imperial chassis with a Briggs Cunningham equipped V-8 engine, and incorporated 1951 Ford, Mercury and 1952 Chrysler body panels."

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Posted 2020-04-19 1:59 AM (#597066 - in reply to #560824)
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Posted 2020-04-19 2:01 AM (#597067 - in reply to #560824)
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Posted 2020-04-28 1:24 AM (#597451 - in reply to #560824)
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Earl C. Anthony, San Francisco 1961. 901 Van Ness Ave. Was originally a Packard dealership. Now a Land Rover/Jaguar dealer.

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Posted 2020-04-29 10:13 AM (#597500 - in reply to #560824)
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That card of J. B. Dowd with the Jess Hunter Motor Company in Pueblo, Colorado, "Your Plymouth Dealer," is interesting. I grew up in Pueblo and here are a few tidbits:
- While I never knew Mr. Dowd, the Hunter clan was a dominant family in the automobile business in the area for years.
- The card dates back to the early 1950s as the T/P No. is still the 4-digit type used before the arrival of dial phones which certainly dates me (anyone else remember, "Number, Please?" -- mine was 2505J).
- By the time of the Forward Look, Jess Hunter had become the Ford dealer, but was still at the address on the card.
- His brother John took over the Imperial-Chrysler-Plymouth franchise after Jess left for Ford and moved it south about four blocks to 7th and Santa Fe.
- I bought my first '60 Fury from the store there at 7th and Santa Fe (and traded it for my first '65 Sport Fury there).
In those days, manufacturers were more controlling about who sold their cars and often restricted their dealers from marketing other brands. But by subterfuge, they became family businesses and by then Jess had Ford, his brother John had Chrysler-Plymouth, and a third had Lincoln-Mercury while a brother-in-law, Lloyd McKee had the biggest Chrysler-Plymouth dealership in New Mexico.
Again, it is interesting.
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Posted 2020-04-29 11:02 AM (#597503 - in reply to #596509)
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1957sotos - 2020-04-05 2:28 PM

Great thread and interesting info!
Anyone notice the Art Frost underhood photo (page 1), showing a 57 Flite w/o hood insulation and appearing to have vacuum windshield washers? In contrast,
the page 2 photo of AC Elkins shows a 58 Flite with hood insulation and a foot washer pump.

Received the FCA build cards for my 57's. The Flite came from #89041 Polk dealership in Alexandria Va. The Dome came from #36947 Bob Bauer in San Diego Calif.

Great service.


Thanks for the dealership numbers. I'm build a dealership list, available soon.


Looks like Bob Bauer was at 3266 El Cajon Blvd. in San Diego at the time. Right down the street from my old house. El Cajon Blvd was a big car dealer street in the 1950s and 1960s. In 1966 they moved to the Lemon Grove area as a Plymouth dealer.

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Posted 2020-04-29 11:04 AM (#597504 - in reply to #560824)
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Stanley Dodge Simca from "The Mile of Cars" in National City, CA. 1960.
Just south of San Diego. My '64 Dodge Polara 500 convertible came from here.



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Posted 2020-04-29 12:32 PM (#597508 - in reply to #560824)
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Stanley Dodge Plymouth - 1958.



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Posted 2020-04-29 1:07 PM (#597510 - in reply to #560824)
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Roy Burnett Motors in Portland from 1962 directory. This is the dealership my 300F came from.





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Posted 2020-05-02 7:42 PM (#597661 - in reply to #560824)
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Wagstaff Motor Co Inc. DeSoto Plymouth Atlanta http://theoldmotor.com/?p=169486

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Posted 2020-05-03 9:01 AM (#597685 - in reply to #597451)
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NicksGarage - 2020-04-28 7:24 AM

Earl C. Anthony, San Francisco 1961. 901 Van Ness Ave. Was originally a Packard dealership. Now a Land Rover/Jaguar dealer.

Check out the radio towers on this page - http://theoldmotor.com/?p=113369



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Posted 2020-05-03 9:07 AM (#597686 - in reply to #597508)
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Stanley Dodge Plymouth - 1958.


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Posted 2020-05-03 11:02 AM (#597701 - in reply to #597685)
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Earl C. Anthony, San Francisco 1961. 901 Van Ness Ave. Was originally a Packard dealership. Now a Land Rover/Jaguar dealer.
Check out the radio towers on this page - http://theoldmotor.com/?p=113369


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Posted 2020-05-13 5:30 AM (#598180 - in reply to #560824)
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I did ask this already in 2004 but maybe someone has now more info about the dealer.

My Windsor was sold in 1957 by "Seattle Automobile Inc.", license plate frame says "Seattle Auto" ... dealer code in the build sheet is (7) 06569 and div/reg 23.

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Posted 2020-05-21 5:52 AM (#598568 - in reply to #598180)
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Answering to myself. So far I have learnt that Seattle Automobile Co was founded in early 1900's and it's founder was the guy who sold the very first car in Seattle in 1903. It was a Franklin dealer, then later a Packard dealer and in the 50s and 60s Chrysler-Imperial-Plymouth Dealer. Latest mention I have found online has been attached postcard from 1962.





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Posted 2020-05-24 5:03 AM (#598712 - in reply to #560824)
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Yet more digging on "Seattle Automobile Co" resulted that dealership changed owners in 1963 and became "Goodfellow Chrysler-Plymouth Inc" and in the 1970's the company switched to other brand and became "Goodfellow Ford Inc".

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RDP
Posted 2020-05-30 9:48 AM (#598987 - in reply to #560824)
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Thanks for sharing. This is a good investigation, we are waiting for photos

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Holt Motor Co., 5230 Van Nuys Blvd., Van Nuys; CA

October 29, 1955. Jim Moran, right, secretary-manager of Van Nuys Chamber of Commerce , accepts keys to new 1956 Plymouth,
a courtesy car for use in his chamber work, from Elwyn Holt, Van Nuys Dodge-Plymouth distributor,
as Alexander De Rostaing, left, company public relations man, and W.O. Lindstrom, chamber president, look on.


March 4, 1958. Pat Olson, Miss Dodge for Dodger in 1958, shows Bob Jones, Van Nuys Holt Motors Dodge general manager,
how easy it is for public to enter giant 'Dodge for Dodgers' contest.




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Posted 2020-05-30 11:34 AM (#598992 - in reply to #598987)
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5230 Van Nuys Blvd., Van Nuys; CA is still a car dealership. Now an Acura but it looks like they kept at least the service building if not more.





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RDP
Posted 2020-06-11 7:31 AM (#599542 - in reply to #560824)
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Howard Motors, 901 St. Charles Ave., New Orleans, LA



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RDP
Posted 2020-06-26 2:58 PM (#600133 - in reply to #560824)
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Highland Plymouth Co., 1350 28th St., Grand Rapids, MI

Honeck Bros Inc., 392 Naugatuck Ave., Milford, CT





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Posted 2020-06-26 5:32 PM (#600138 - in reply to #560824)
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In a couple of pics above, I couldn't help notice how much more attractive (to me) the '59 Fury is over the '59 Sport Fury. Nice, clean, unbroken side trim front to rear with no unnecessary trinketry and no toilet seat on the deck lid. Sweeeeeet!
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Posted 2020-06-26 7:21 PM (#600150 - in reply to #600133)
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Dealership is gone but the building was still there in 2018.

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Posted 2020-06-27 5:07 AM (#600162 - in reply to #600150)
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Honeck Bros, dealer number 53668. That’s where my car was sold new.
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Posted 2020-06-27 6:49 AM (#600164 - in reply to #560824)
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Posted 2020-06-27 7:56 AM (#600166 - in reply to #600164)
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Posted 2020-06-27 10:33 AM (#600171 - in reply to #560824)
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I found this a few days ago, no FL era, but interesting.
region 18, dealer 01.
Swen, what do you think about this?

It doesn't work together:
http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=70299&...





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Posted 2020-06-27 11:56 AM (#600173 - in reply to #598987)
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RDP - 2020-05-30 6:48 AM

Thanks for sharing. This is a good investigation, we are waiting for photos

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Holt Motor Co., 5230 Van Nuys Blvd., Van Nuys; CA

October 29, 1955. Jim Moran, right, secretary-manager of Van Nuys Chamber of Commerce , accepts keys to new 1956 Plymouth,
a courtesy car for use in his chamber work, from Elwyn Holt, Van Nuys Dodge-Plymouth distributor,
as Alexander De Rostaing, left, company public relations man, and W.O. Lindstrom, chamber president, look on.


March 4, 1958. Pat Olson, Miss Dodge for Dodger in 1958, shows Bob Jones, Van Nuys Holt Motors Dodge general manager,
how easy it is for public to enter giant 'Dodge for Dodgers' contest.


My 1960 Saratoga was purchased new at Holt Motors, Van Nuys.




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Posted 2020-07-05 1:37 AM (#600500 - in reply to #560824)
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Hutton-Tufty Co., 2317 S Minnesota Ave., Sioux Falls, SD





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Posted 2020-07-17 2:04 PM (#601019 - in reply to #560824)
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I. Y. Halsey Automobile Co., East Hampton, NY

Ireland-Downing Motor Company, Kansas City, MO

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Posted 2020-07-18 11:50 PM (#601072 - in reply to #560824)
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It appears Ireland-Downing was a Plymouth only dealer. That's unusual as I always thought Plymouth was coupled with Dodge, DeSoto, or Chrysler.
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Posted 2020-07-19 1:19 AM (#601077 - in reply to #560824)
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There were some Plymouth only dealers - as well as Dodge, DeSoto and Chrysler. But not Imperial - at least not in 1957-58.

On January 1, 1957, Plymouth had a total of 8,752 franchises. That figure included duals, while 77 were Plymouth only. One year later Plymouth had a total of 7,695 franchises, including duals, with 195 Plymouth only.


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Chrycoman - 2020-07-19 12:19 AM

There were some Plymouth only dealers - as well as Dodge, DeSoto and Chrysler. But not Imperial - at least not in 1957-58.

On January 1, 1957, Plymouth had a total of 8,752 franchises. That figure included duals, while 77 were Plymouth only. One year
later Plymouth had a total of 7,695 franchises, including duals, with 195 Plymouth only.


Interesting - Dad was a DeSoto-Plymouth dealer from 1946 till 1961 when Chrysler replaced the DeSoto at his dealership. In
1968 he added Dodge and Dodge Trucks to the line-up and continued to 1981 when it closed.

I guess I never paid attention to there being Plymouth dealers only as all I can remember was the dual dealership concept.



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Posted 2020-07-25 10:43 AM (#601285 - in reply to #560824)
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Hello everyone,
I was just wondering if anyone happens to know of the White Plymouth Centre in Renton Washington?
This is the information listed on my Owner's Service Certificate along with Code Number: 61411.
It was delivered in November 1960. Sadly over the years I've never been able to find anything about this dealership.
Thanks so much
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Posted 2020-07-25 1:24 PM (#601291 - in reply to #601285)
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suburban61 - 2020-07-25 7:43 AM

Hello everyone,
I was just wondering if anyone happens to know of the White Plymouth Centre in Renton Washington?
This is the information listed on my Owner's Service Certificate along with Code Number: 61411.
It was delivered in November 1960. Sadly over the years I've never been able to find anything about this dealership.
Thanks so much :)


Have you tried newspaper archives? You can get a trial membership at newspapers.com and do unlimited searches for a week. Great stuff to be found.
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Posted 2020-07-25 2:07 PM (#601294 - in reply to #601285)
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While trying to find White Plymouth in Renton, I found a street view of Downton Renton with a 55 Plymouth and this dealership in Seattle and (which I will post before I forget):





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Posted 2020-08-02 10:27 AM (#601591 - in reply to #560824)
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Imperial Motors, Hwy. 111, Palm Springs, CA



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Posted 2020-08-02 12:33 PM (#601596 - in reply to #560824)
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Posted 2020-08-02 1:23 PM (#601600 - in reply to #560824)
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that pig snout Desoto is growing on me... but man still couldnt do it... a face only a mother could love...
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Posted 2020-08-02 1:34 PM (#601601 - in reply to #601600)
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For some reason, I've always seen the 61 Desotos as these:



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Posted 2020-08-02 9:06 PM (#601617 - in reply to #560824)
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In my opinion the only 1961 FL that made an improvement in looks over their respective 1960 models was the Imperial.
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Posted 2020-08-04 1:40 PM (#601685 - in reply to #601601)
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56D500boy - 2020-08-02 1:34 PM

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For some reason, I've always seen the 61 Desotos as these:


Hmm, what an interesting comparison
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Viper Guy - 2020-08-02 9:06 PM

In my opinion the only 1961 FL that made an improvement in looks over their respective 1960 models was the Imperial.


I’d agree with that. I like the fins on the 61 Imperial. Chrysler was a step backwards after the boomerang tailights of the 1960’s. Everything about the 60 Chrysler’s and DeSotos were better,and the same applies comparing the 60 Dodges and Plymouth’s to the 61’s. The Plymouth didn’t even have fins anymore! Truly the end of an era. Things would never be the same ever again.
How anyone in the styling dept could look at the 61 Chrysler taillights and think those were better than the 60’s is beyond me. Totally pointless change.
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