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1956RoyalLancer
Posted 2018-05-30 12:35 PM (#564245)
Subject: Rack and Pinion Steering


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Hello,
Does anyone know if I can put rack and pinion steering in my 1956 Dodge Royal Lancer?
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DepsilonD
Posted 2018-05-30 1:22 PM (#564248 - in reply to #564245)
Subject: Re: Rack and Pinion Steering



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Its a tough conversion from what I have read. I think Fatman Fab may offer some form of kit but my memory is hazy on the subject.
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ttotired
Posted 2018-05-30 6:07 PM (#564271 - in reply to #564245)
Subject: Re: Rack and Pinion Steering



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Anything can be done

Bolt in kit, I don't think so, but a mustang 2 frontend grafted into the chassis will give you rack and pinion as well as coil spring front suspension (read air bags) and easy disc brakes.

It will also give you a much lighter wallet and plenty of distain from the purists

It really depends on why you want it, modding the car, go for it, just want power steering, chase up the factory parts, would be cheaper and easier

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LostDeere59
Posted 2018-05-30 9:04 PM (#564276 - in reply to #564271)
Subject: Re: Rack and Pinion Steering



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Another popular option is the 2003-up Crown Vic/Grand Marquis crossmember/suspension clip. Disc brakes, coil over struts, rack and pinion, plus newer parts availability.

It's something I'm considering myself . . .


Gregg
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Old Ray
Posted 2018-05-30 10:08 PM (#564278 - in reply to #564276)
Subject: Re: Rack and Pinion Steering



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LostDeere59 - 2018-05-30 7:04 PM Another popular option is the 2003-up Crown Vic/Grand Marquis crossmember/suspension clip. Disc brakes, coil over struts, rack and pinion, plus newer parts availability.

It's something I'm considering myself . . .Gregg


Gregg, not on the somewhat narrow track of the early forward look cars, the track / tread on the CV is too wide. The "flavor of the week" is the front frame portion from a Dakota. At the sweet spot, the frames are identical, track is close.
Lots of info on both on the net. NOT that I would ever consider doing this, NEVER.

Not mine:



(dakota into '57 ply steering # 2.jpg)



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57chizler
Posted 2018-05-31 1:11 PM (#564312 - in reply to #564245)
Subject: RE: Rack and Pinion Steering



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The GM Cavalier rack is popular for swaps, it's rear-mounted and the center-steer design eliminates a lot of the bump steer that's common in R&P swaps. If you don't have fabrication skills, forget it.

http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/Swapping_to_rack_and_pinion...
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LostDeere59
Posted 2018-06-01 12:05 PM (#564368 - in reply to #564278)
Subject: Re: Rack and Pinion Steering



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That's interesting Ray - I never would have thought of that (until I got my tape measure out of course). I've seen the CV?GM suspension in several cars at shows - I thought one of them was a FL but I might be wrong (pretty likely).

Gregg
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Old Ray
Posted 2018-06-01 8:51 PM (#564390 - in reply to #564368)
Subject: Re: Rack and Pinion Steering



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LostDeere59 - 2018-06-01 10:05 AM That's interesting Ray - I never would have thought of that (until I got my tape measure out of course). I've seen the CV?GM suspension in several cars at shows - I thought one of them was a FL but I might be wrong (pretty likely). Gregg


Greg, here is a teaser for you;





(plymouth dakota frame 4.jpg)



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Old Ray
Posted 2018-06-01 8:59 PM (#564391 - in reply to #564390)
Subject: Re: Rack and Pinion Steering



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........look what I found in my picture files when I was looking for the above picture;





(plymouth 1958 dakota steering and booster 2.jpg)



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littlecarl
Posted 2023-04-04 11:56 AM (#628730 - in reply to #564391)
Subject: Re: Rack and Pinion Steering



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Old Ray - 2018-06-01 1:59 AM ........look what I found in my picture files when I was looking for the above picture;

 

What size wheels are you running on that Dakota setup? Ideally I would like  to keep using 14" or at least 15" wheels.

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