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1960fury
Posted 2018-06-07 5:18 PM (#564746)
Subject: My 61 accelerating in my backyard



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Not really, only rear springs rusted in half. At least it is perfectly running and driving now, shifts thru all gears perfectly (only with e-brake. you gotta love the big blocks, after ages in a junkyard, runs like new with no visible blowby) but it's a mess, bent frame (accident damage) lots of rust and forklift damage, but it's rescued at least from the parts guys and demolition monkeys. Will bring it slowly back, at least it wont be crushed during my lifetime. I see it as the Hemi-cuda of the early 60s, with a bigblock and absolutely no options (manual steering). It must have ruled the streets.

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jboymechanic
Posted 2018-06-07 9:59 PM (#564769 - in reply to #564746)
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Good save! What is the story behind this one? When did you pick it up? How long has it been sitting?
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Posted 2018-06-07 10:17 PM (#564771 - in reply to #564746)
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this is the one you exported from that crook? look pretty decent
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Posted 2018-06-08 7:25 AM (#564786 - in reply to #564769)
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jboymechanic - 2018-06-07 9:59 PM

Good save! What is the story behind this one? When did you pick it up? How long has it been sitting?


There is a thread about it. "Beware of Bill Heinhuis". Was sold to me as straight and rust free except for the rr quarter. Claimed that he don't know how to post good pictures, played the "senior card".
Frame is bent, one control arm was almost ripped away (did some straightening and replaced the control arm). Floor pans are gone, trunk too, quarters and even the ds sill, it's almost rusted in half. Worst thing is the fork lift damage, bent the whole inner floor pan upwards, front seat no longer fits and is broken too. Only good thing, drivetrain is an untouched, oe golden commando unit, that's like new. Always wanted another golden commando coupe.
Was involved in an accident in the late 80s and I guess this long it has been sitting in a junkyard.
Lots of work ahead, but I don't need to hurry, finally have some time. Lost storage and I have to move it to a better place, or build something for it.

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1960fury
Posted 2018-06-08 7:29 AM (#564787 - in reply to #564771)
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hemidenis - 2018-06-07 10:17 PM

this is the one you exported from that crook? look pretty decent


Check the Bill Heinhuis thread. Will ad more pictures.
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Posted 2018-06-08 7:30 AM (#564788 - in reply to #564787)
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jboymechanic
Posted 2018-06-08 8:41 AM (#564793 - in reply to #564746)
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Read your story, sorry to hear about you're trouble. I'm always looking for parts for my 1960 Plymouth, I will keep an eye out for 1961 parts as well (I know there is a lot of overlap). How is the drive line? I have the original drive shaft from my 1960 and a complete spare 8 3/4 rear end with 2.94 gears. I'm sure many people here on the forum can help ship parts.
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1960fury
Posted 2018-06-08 1:33 PM (#564814 - in reply to #564746)
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Thanks Jon! The drivetrain is perfect, even the ball&trunion is like new, with the factory boot and straps intact. This car has either 67 or 167k miles on the clock. Only thing I dislike is the short 3.32 rear axle. wish it had a 2.93. As a matter of fact, I do need a complete 2.93 for my 59 Fury too, but shipping an axle would be the killer.
Right now I could need the upper rear window corner trim pieces, as these were drilled with a big drill and front directional housing&lenses.
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Posted 2018-06-08 2:10 PM (#564817 - in reply to #564746)
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I really like your house and property. I am surprised you need storage with a place like that. Going to be a nice pair of big block Plymouths! Your consolation for having to deal with all that is that you have a pretty rare car to restore. I learned my lesson with a similar seller who said everything was perfect on a '58 Ranchero with 1 lousy deceiving photo. I drove 700 miles round trip to see a car with the entire bottom half missing with rust. Just walked out and drove back home.

What is your plan of attack on it? I like to get them running & drive-able first so that they are easily moved, but I know other people prefer to paint first. I guess the first thing to do is to fix the bent frame?
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Posted 2018-06-10 8:10 AM (#564929 - in reply to #564817)
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Powerflite - 2018-06-08 2:10 PM


What is your plan of attack on it? I like to get them running & drive-able first so that they are easily moved, but I know other people prefer to paint first. I guess the first thing to do is to fix the bent frame?


Paint is always the last thing of course. Yes, the frame accident damage is first, as making it look like a 61 Fury again will boost my drive to keep working. That, or the rocker that is almost rusted in half and bent by a forklift, as it's structural (rusted thru, separated from the subframe) and that is where the exhaust gasses enter the interior. Here a picture of the (seller) "perfect, rust free" floor:



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Posted 2018-06-10 10:29 AM (#564945 - in reply to #564817)
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Powerflite - 2018-06-08 2:10 PM

I really like your house and property.


Thank you very much! My parents had it build after their, or my mothers plans, in the early/mid60s. I'll never get over their passing, It will be always theirs. I view myself as the caretaker, keeping it the way they wanted.

It was build with a traditional, for the german Heath, straw roof. Keeps you warm in winters and cool in summers, unfortunately nature is now claiming it back. Guess you would like it from the inside too, with a large fireplace.
Pretty remote for Germany, you can hardly see it from the street, no neighbours that complain about "junk"-cars. Nothing but wood and heath in one direction. The property borders on a small brook that carries water that is safe to drink, we got wolves too.



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Posted 2018-06-10 10:40 AM (#564947 - in reply to #564746)
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That's awesome! ...the house, not the rust.
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Posted 2018-06-10 10:49 AM (#564948 - in reply to #564746)
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It's a wondeful porperty you got. Congratulation.
About your '61 I wish good luck finding the replacement for the damaged parts and rust repair.

Happy Restoring!

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Posted 2018-06-10 3:55 PM (#564965 - in reply to #564746)
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Nice save and nice place Sid.

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Posted 2018-06-10 7:34 PM (#564983 - in reply to #564746)
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I'll chime in too - very nice place!

And I know what you mean about your parents - mine passed unexpectedly and within a month of each other a few years back. We didn't keep the house (it wasn't special to them like yours) and didn't have room for most of their stuff. I still find myself thinking "My dad would love this, I've gotta tell him . . ."


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Posted 2018-06-11 12:40 AM (#565005 - in reply to #564746)
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Looks like an illustration from a fairytale by the Grimm Brothers Sid! Very nice!
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1960fury
Posted 2018-06-12 8:09 AM (#565071 - in reply to #564746)
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Thanks for the nice comments. Yes, I got lots to do and the days ain't got enough hours. My 60 needs some work, or improvements, too.
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Posted 2018-06-13 11:07 AM (#565117 - in reply to #564746)
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That '61 will shine one day I am sure... look what John Big M started with on his '59, it can be done! ...
The house is amazing, it looks like it could have been built in the 1500s... great charm!
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Posted 2018-06-14 6:06 AM (#565134 - in reply to #564746)
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Very nice crib Sid! The Fury will definitely respond to your TLC.


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1960fury
Posted 2018-06-17 8:52 AM (#565247 - in reply to #564746)
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Thanks Roger, thanks Steven, at least I will bring it to a state, no one wants to part it out and crush it anymore. I'm make it driveable and fix the worst areas, the rr quarter is toast. I might paint the roof as this is for some reason stripped of all paint and primer by the elements. I was definetely the first person who removed the roof trim. Why the roof is without paint, even under the stainless, and the rest of the body not, is beyond me.
Under the trim I found traces of turquoise, which surprised me as this was actually not available with a light blue body.
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1960fury
Posted 2019-08-12 5:33 AM (#585896 - in reply to #565247)
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This year I finally started working on the 61. Sanded the roof a full day in scorching summer heat. Afterwards I coated it with rust converter.
Even though I did much, much more than the instructions for the convertor ask you to do ("remove loose rust"),
the result isn't convincing. The result was a white surface that turned brownish after some time (not subject to rain/water) and when you start
sanding again, the converter didn't seem to have pentrated the millions of pits that are impossible to sand away. The car spend many years in a Canadian junk yard with a bare roof.
However, the surface seems to be very smooth and I painted a small test section and the epoxy seems to stick very well.
Also finally build a temporary shelter for the car to work on. It move there under its on power, the Golden Commando runs like new, with no visible
blow-by or noises. Also the T-flite seems to be still like new. It engages gears in a fraction of a second at 450rpm curb idle.
No leaks nowhere in the drivetrain. Factory B&T boot still like new.
The whole drivetrain seems to be like new. This is the positive side of buying a car that was parked because of an accident
(r.f. frame bend, the right fender is a replacement).

BTW, if someone has a 61 PLYMOUTH lettered horn bar he/she wants to sell, please let me know. My car has the plain horn bar,
that would be ideal for someone using an Aero wheel in a non Plymouth car, if someone is interested or wants to swap.

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Posted 2019-08-12 9:00 PM (#585929 - in reply to #564746)
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I love these 61's. Nothing like a 61 Plymouth with a big block. Can't wait to see more of this car.
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Posted 2019-08-12 11:08 PM (#585939 - in reply to #564746)
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Nice to have it easy to move around while you work on it. Makes it a lot easier.
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Posted 2019-08-13 6:14 AM (#585947 - in reply to #585929)
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plymouth - 2019-08-12 9:00 PM

I love these 61's. Nothing like a 61 Plymouth with a big block. Can't wait to see more of this car.


60/61! I agree!!!
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1960fury
Posted 2019-08-13 6:54 AM (#585950 - in reply to #585939)
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Powerflite - 2019-08-12 11:08 PM

Nice to have it easy to move around while you work on it. Makes it a lot easier.


Yes, when I attempted to move it to its new location I made a memorable experience. I have a pretty steep driveway and I wanted to let it roll backward
from there into its temporary shelter. I thought I fixed the parking brake, but when I pushed it (rolling backwards) I suddenly remembered it was the
brake of my 60 Adventurer I fixed... so rolling backward without brakes (no seat, no PS and half flat tires) I skipped the plan to let it roll into the garage steered clear
of it (not much room) and let it roll into the grass field, were you see it now. Meanwhile I fixed the parking brake (no lining left)
and drove it to its shelter, hidden behind pines, that is were I plan to do all the dirty body work.

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Posted 2019-08-16 12:53 AM (#586068 - in reply to #585950)
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Looking forward to progress pics. I notice that your aluminum dash trim is different than my fury ? Also the radio bezel looks different?
Sometimes I have to wonder what Chrysler was thinking when they made so many different redundant parts for no reason? Like the horn ring center. Why wouldn't they all have the Plymouth logo OR not have it.
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1960fury
Posted 2019-08-16 7:42 AM (#586081 - in reply to #586068)
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Apollo 61 - 2019-08-16 12:53 AM

Looking forward to progress pics. I notice that your aluminum dash trim is different than my fury ? Also the radio bezel looks different?
Sometimes I have to wonder what Chrysler was thinking when they made so many different redundant parts for no reason? Like the horn ring center. Why wouldn't they all have the Plymouth logo OR not have it.


The aluminum trim and horn center are different because the US-versions have Plymouth insignias
on them and the Plymouth dash and steering wheel was used on Dodges in Canada as well.
The radio faceplate is the same for the Canadian 61s, but when I lighted the buttons (looks great in the dark!)
in my car I changed that to the much nicer 62 design that conforms to the dash.
It wasn't a simple bolt on and required some mods.

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