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macedon
Posted 2018-07-08 8:00 AM (#566259)
Subject: 59 Fireflite



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Was visiting Fredericksburg, TX yesterday and saw this nice 59. Hopefully it's on someone's restore project list. Looked pretty nice.



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mikes2nd
Posted 2018-07-08 11:55 AM (#566271 - in reply to #566259)
Subject: Re: 59 Fireflite


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shoulda left a note offer 1000$
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1960fury
Posted 2018-07-08 6:30 PM (#566301 - in reply to #566259)
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Pretty! Has the ultra rare hooded Mopar (Autolite) Mirrors. Wonder if the left one is the remote version.
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2018-07-09 9:54 PM (#566380 - in reply to #566301)
Subject: Re: 59 Fireflite



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It has the uber rare Adventurer deck lid stainless strips. Still, it's a #@!
59 ....
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jboymechanic
Posted 2018-07-09 10:39 PM (#566383 - in reply to #566259)
Subject: Re: 59 Fireflite



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Doc, what do you have against '59 DeSotos?
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macedon
Posted 2018-12-28 4:45 PM (#575939 - in reply to #566380)
Subject: Re: 59 Fireflite



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Doctor DeSoto - 2018-07-09 8:54 PM

It has the uber rare Adventurer deck lid stainless strips. Still, it's a #@!
59 ....


Are those deck lid strips only on spring specials?
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macedon
Posted 2018-12-28 4:48 PM (#575940 - in reply to #566259)
Subject: Re: 59 Fireflite



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It's still there. I found out who owns it. Left a message...
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w.weiland
Posted 2018-12-28 6:02 PM (#575945 - in reply to #575940)
Subject: Re: 59 Fireflite


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macedon - 2018-12-28 4:48 PM

It's still there. I found out who owns it. Left a message...

sent you a pm
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2018-12-28 11:23 PM (#575955 - in reply to #566383)
Subject: Re: 59 Fireflite



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jboymechanic - 2018-07-10 7:39 PM

Doc, what do you have against '59 DeSotos?


Are those deck lid strips only on spring specials?

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The decklid strips are Adventurer-only on 57-58 cars. I assume the same
was true for 59 (?)

What do I have against 59 DeSotos ? Well, it's not just DeSotos ... but to
answer the question, the blunted nose and fenders, the over-dramatic dipped
side trim, and the worst blasphemy of all, the forward-leaning fins with the
ponderously heavy looking, dumpy rear bumper. For what was one of the
ultimate post war designs to get this sort of "face lift" ? ..... Yuck !

The rest of the non-Imperial Mopar family fared no better. Imagine if Mopar
had jumped to the 60 designs for 1959 ... it would have been a second serious
kick to the groin for GM's dominant market share in 3 years and may have cut
a much larger slice of the 1960's market for Mopar.
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macedon
Posted 2018-12-29 8:10 AM (#575957 - in reply to #575955)
Subject: Re: 59 Fireflite



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Doctor DeSoto - 2018-12-28 10:23 PM

jboymechanic - 2018-07-10 7:39 PM

Doc, what do you have against '59 DeSotos?


Are those deck lid strips only on spring specials?

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The decklid strips are Adventurer-only on 57-58 cars. I assume the same
was true for 59 (?)


Hopefully I can get a look at the data plate and VIN.
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Viper Guy
Posted 2018-12-29 10:55 PM (#576006 - in reply to #575957)
Subject: Re: 59 Fireflite



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macedon - 2018-12-29 7:10 AM

Doctor DeSoto - 2018-12-28 10:23 PM

jboymechanic - 2018-07-10 7:39 PM

Doc, what do you have against '59 DeSotos?


Are those deck lid strips only on spring specials?

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The decklid strips are Adventurer-only on 57-58 cars. I assume the same
was true for 59 (?)


Hopefully I can get a look at the data plate and VIN.[/QUOTE

Doc is the only one on the forum that has a distaste for the ‘59 models so I don’t put any stock in, or share his opinion on these. My ‘59 Firesweep more than holds its own at shows, cruises, and on the street. And as we all know, the ‘59 Dodges more than likely are the most popular of all the FLs on this forum.

Now to the trunk lid stainless strips on the ‘59 DeSotos, they were part of a dress-up package in the Spring of ‘59 at least on Fireflites. Not sure on the other models (were standard on all ‘59 Adventurers) but I have a picture of a Fireflite 2HT with them.



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Fireflite56
Posted 2018-12-30 5:23 PM (#576032 - in reply to #576006)
Subject: Re: 59 Fireflite



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The Adventurer deck lid strips were available on any non-wagon Fireflite, not available on any Firedome or Firesweep, and standard on all Adventurers.

It's funny that the forward-leaning fins are a turn-off for some people, especially considering that the '56 also had that. Obviously I don't mind the forward-leaning fins because all I currently have are '56's and '59's, including the twin to this one.



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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2018-12-30 10:07 PM (#576043 - in reply to #576006)
Subject: Re: 59 Fireflite



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Viper Guy - 2018-12-30 7:55 PM

Doc is the only one on the forum that has a distaste for the ‘59 models so I don’t put any stock in, or share his opinion on these. My ‘59 Firesweep more than holds its own at shows, cruises, and on the street. And as we all know, the ‘59 Dodges more than likely are the most popular of all the FLs on this forum.

Now to the trunk lid stainless strips on the ‘59 DeSotos, they were part of a dress-up package in the Spring of ‘59 at least on Fireflites.


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My opinion is worth every cent you paid for it. Plain and simple. I HATE
the 59 Dodge, but will readily point out that they are, the single-most popular
Forward Look design amongst car guys today. The market tells me that my
opinion does not jive with the popular vote. I wish I had a warehouse full
of convertibles and coupes to sell ! But I would not want to own and drive
one. I prefer a smoother design like the 57-58 Plymouth or DeSoto, where
the popular vote (market) does support my opinion, as these cars command
more attention and money. Some people take their cars way too personally,
as opposed to a taking a critical view of the door handle design or how the
bumper integrates with the fin and side trim. Nothing to get defensive about,
just good design discussion.

Regarding the comment about the similarity between the 59 and the 56, ... it
is true. But the bulkier body of the 56 has a strong, muscular vibe, and the front
end is very tasteful in the Fireflite/Adventurer trim with the painted headlight doors.

The one thing that the 59 DeSoto has that is out of this world is the hood opener
door. Now THAT is cool !

It would figure that the Adventurer decklid bars were extended into a general
dress up package for 59. Mother Mopar did this a LOT across the board with
added trim. Heck, even the Adventurer engine was made available across all
models for 59 ! More 59 coolness would be swivel seats and air ride. While I
don't care one way or the other for the ride, that compressor on the front of
the engine sure is cool looking and leaves a lot of people scratching their heads !
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macedon
Posted 2018-12-31 10:02 AM (#576054 - in reply to #576032)
Subject: Re: 59 Fireflite



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$10.80 on what was probably a $3500+ car. Yeah I would've sprung for the deck lid stainless. It's a nice touch.
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cbingham
Posted 2019-01-12 1:03 AM (#576621 - in reply to #576032)
Subject: Re: 59 Fireflite


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I bought a '59 two door Firedome Sportsman several years ago from a gentleman in the Seattle area; the car seemed to have stayed in Seattle for most of its life as it was sold new in West Seattle. Anyway, the car is in rough but restorable condition. I have been collecting parts to hopefully begin the process in the next few years. I know all the documentation says Firedomes did not merit the Adventurer deck lid accent moulding stripes, but the car I bought came with them. And they certainly appear original as the car still has the original paint. This car did come with the roof garnish mouldings which may have really spruced up the overall appearance.
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2019-01-12 2:02 AM (#576625 - in reply to #576621)
Subject: Re: 59 Fireflite



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ANYTHING could have happened back when dealers stocked these parts
on the shelves, whether the dealer installed them per original buyer's
request, or an early owner walked in and bought these parts and installed
them themselves. A lot of this was done aftermarket or with wrecking yard
parts.

Most people in this "hobby" (business) get pretty hardcore about OEM spec
cars. Some times it is fun to look at changes and add-ons as part of one's
historic vehicle's history.
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59 explorer
Posted 2019-01-13 5:43 PM (#576726 - in reply to #566259)
Subject: Re: 59 Fireflite


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The NDC believes the K6 on your data plate is the code for the Adventurer deck lid mouldings
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chefothefuture
Posted 2019-02-01 11:47 PM (#577720 - in reply to #576043)
Subject: Re: 59 Fireflite


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Doctor DeSoto - 2018-12-30 10:07 PM

Viper Guy - 2018-12-30 7:55 PM

Doc is the only one on the forum that has a distaste for the ‘59 models so I don’t put any stock in, or share his opinion on these. My ‘59 Firesweep more than holds its own at shows, cruises, and on the street. And as we all know, the ‘59 Dodges more than likely are the most popular of all the FLs on this forum.

Now to the trunk lid stainless strips on the ‘59 DeSotos, they were part of a dress-up package in the Spring of ‘59 at least on Fireflites.


===============================

My opinion is worth every cent you paid for it. Plain and simple. I HATE
the 59 Dodge, but will readily point out that they are, the single-most popular
Forward Look design amongst car guys today. The market tells me that my
opinion does not jive with the popular vote. I wish I had a warehouse full
of convertibles and coupes to sell ! But I would not want to own and drive
one. I prefer a smoother design like the 57-58 Plymouth or DeSoto, where
the popular vote (market) does support my opinion, as these cars command
more attention and money. Some people take their cars way too personally,
as opposed to a taking a critical view of the door handle design or how the
bumper integrates with the fin and side trim. Nothing to get defensive about,
just good design discussion.

Regarding the comment about the similarity between the 59 and the 56, ... it
is true. But the bulkier body of the 56 has a strong, muscular vibe, and the front
end is very tasteful in the Fireflite/Adventurer trim with the painted headlight doors.

The one thing that the 59 DeSoto has that is out of this world is the hood opener
door. Now THAT is cool !

It would figure that the Adventurer decklid bars were extended into a general
dress up package for 59. Mother Mopar did this a LOT across the board with
added trim. Heck, even the Adventurer engine was made available across all
models for 59 ! More 59 coolness would be swivel seats and air ride. While I
don't care one way or the other for the ride, that compressor on the front of
the engine sure is cool looking and leaves a lot of people scratching their heads ! :laugh:


Hey! That access door on the bonnet latch was why I fell in love with the '59 in the first place!!! Hahaha!
When you showed me what ended up being my first '59, that's what I was raving about on the ride home.

Edited by chefothefuture 2019-02-01 11:50 PM
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mikes2nd
Posted 2019-02-02 12:52 AM (#577721 - in reply to #566259)
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the 59 cars are growing on me. I love the 59 dodge now. You need to see it in person. The car is the epitome of plain mean looking.

Its like an angry face in the crowd looking for a fight

The fins are iffish but its all about the front end. The rear end got kind of 58 gm busy. It was like a castle fortress but it does match the front wild animal look.

The 59 Desoto Chrysler grows on you also. Heck I even like the 60 Plymouth now, even the two tone

the 57 dodge has grown less on me... if anything you could say the 300C with its wide mouth bass look is a little goofy.

Tops for me is 58 Dodge Regal, 58 Plymouth sporttone ,58 Desoto big car sweep, then 58 chrysler, 57-58 300C
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2019-02-02 9:22 PM (#577734 - in reply to #577721)
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If it's an angry clown's face a person is looking for on a car, the 59 Dodge nailed it.

To be fair, Dodge always was the "jaunty" styled division in Mopar's stable through
the FL years. The rest tended to carry a smooth and sleek theme, but Dodge was
more jaunty. The 59 took it to their ultimate expression, before a sleeker theme
returned for 60. 61 went all jaunty again, and the trend slowly morphed out as the
60's went on.

My attraction to fin era cars is the sleek and slippery, windswept look that many had.
By extension, the boxier, more jaunty designs don't really turn my crank. While 59
Dodges, and Edsels, and Mercs through those years are certainly cool, and I love that
others like them and restore them, the designs run counter to my "aesthetic eye".

Maybe some people can afford a large sampling of cars in their restoration stable.
I never could, and used this critiqueing of design as a method of self-discipline to keep
myslef from dragging home EVERY car I found. It was bad enough with the pool of
cars I DID like and want ! John can vouch for me on this. He was there for a lot of it !
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chefothefuture
Posted 2019-02-03 2:19 AM (#577745 - in reply to #577734)
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Doctor DeSoto - 2019-02-02 9:22 PM

If it's an angry clown's face a person is looking for on a car, the 59 Dodge nailed it.

To be fair, Dodge always was the "jaunty" styled division in Mopar's stable through
the FL years. The rest tended to carry a smooth and sleek theme, but Dodge was
more jaunty. The 59 took it to their ultimate expression, before a sleeker theme
returned for 60. 61 went all jaunty again, and the trend slowly morphed out as the
60's went on.

My attraction to fin era cars is the sleek and slippery, windswept look that many had.
By extension, the boxier, more jaunty designs don't really turn my crank. While 59
Dodges, and Edsels, and Mercs through those years are certainly cool, and I love that
others like them and restore them, the designs run counter to my "aesthetic eye".

Maybe some people can afford a large sampling of cars in their restoration stable.
I never could, and used this critiqueing of design as a method of self-discipline to keep
myslef from dragging home EVERY car I found. It was bad enough with the pool of
cars I DID like and want ! John can vouch for me on this. He was there for a lot of it !

Hahaha! I might have been worse! And I got into that '60 Imperial for a while too!
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hemidenis
Posted 2019-02-03 10:35 AM (#577755 - in reply to #566259)
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Doc,
guys who think they know everything about these cars I call them "experts". These "experts" can tell you exactly what the factory and hundred of dealers did back in the day using only their common sense, factory brochures (artistic drawings), magazine adds and crazy stories from old timers.

Just follow their advises, you "cant" be wrong about trims and such.
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1960fury
Posted 2019-02-03 11:52 AM (#577764 - in reply to #577755)
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hemidenis - 2019-02-03 10:35 AM

Doc,
guys who think they know everything about these cars I call them "experts". These "experts" can tell you exactly what the factory and hundred of dealers did back in the day using only their common sense, factory brochures (artistic drawings), magazine adds and crazy stories from old timers.

Just follow their advises, you "cant" be wrong about trims and such.



Technical informations in written form are no "artistic drawings" and so far I haven't seen any claims like that here,
only from those "experts" who "know" how absolutely every car rolled of the assembly lines because their (single) car was build (allegedly) like that.

And bescause of that single car, that was (allegedly) built like that, they insist that every other of the 100 000s others war built like their single car,
even though there is proof that this wasn't the case..... hmm....



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