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Rear engine mount (Crossmember) spring question
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oldhippie
Posted 2018-07-19 12:03 PM (#566851)
Subject: Rear engine mount (Crossmember) spring question


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Hey, was wondering if anyone could tell me the difference between these two part numbers: 2122 278 and 2201 991 (see attached image).

I currently have the 1st one (from the 60 Matador) installed on the newer crossmember, but the tail seems to be sitting really high, and I wonder if the other spring might be shorter? I can't really find any info on their physical descriptions.





(Crossmember Springs.JPG)



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oldhippie
Posted 2018-07-19 2:30 PM (#566857 - in reply to #566851)
Subject: RE: Rear engine mount (Crossmember) spring question


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In case you're wondering, I'm referring to the spring in this image (attached)...



(Crossmember_n_spring.JPG)



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60 dart
Posted 2018-07-19 3:58 PM (#566860 - in reply to #566851)
Subject: Re: Rear engine mount (Crossmember) spring question



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i think both the spring and the crossmember both are diff. for a 64 . using a 64-65 833 4 spd in my 60 , i had to refab the crossmember to get it near correct tail height/length . the real big deal
was the snout for 60 was way too long to work with the 64-65 trans ----------------------------------------------------------later
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oldhippie
Posted 2018-07-19 6:13 PM (#566866 - in reply to #566851)
Subject: Re: Rear engine mount (Crossmember) spring question


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Thanks for the reply Chuck. The engine/trans are from a 64 NYer, and the crossmember I got from John @ Big M I believe was a 63 but I forgot to ask for that isolator spring, so I had to use the one I had from the 60. Everything lines up fine, but as I mentioned, I think the 60 spring is too tall. The bell housing is almost touching the tunnel & the tail looks really high. All I'm really looking for right now is a comparative height, but I imagine I'm going to have to either find one from that later year, or cut this one down...
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Shep
Posted 2018-07-20 2:45 PM (#566890 - in reply to #566866)
Subject: Re: Rear engine mount (Crossmember) spring question



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Yeh, driveline angle is important, height of the tailshaft is part of this.
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59 in Calif
Posted 2018-07-20 9:07 PM (#566910 - in reply to #566851)
Subject: Re: Rear engine mount (Crossmember) spring question


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Like shep says, get the driveline angle set 1st, then see where that spring fits in the puzzle. this is the 1st I've ever seen a spring in that location. All I ever seen was a rectangular rubber mount, bolted to the tailshaft housing and to the xmember mount. Must be a really stiff spring to be able to carry that much weight. 3 - 4 degress up on the diff and 3-4 degress down at the end of the tailshaft. I wouldn't use the trans mounting pad as accurate point of measurement as it may not be reliable. Jerry
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oldhippie
Posted 2018-07-21 8:35 AM (#566929 - in reply to #566851)
Subject: RE: Rear engine mount (Crossmember) spring question


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The spring was used in 64, pretty sure in 62-63 as well. Pics from the service manuals are below, named appropriately. The trans had the rubber isolator attached to it when I got it, so I know that's correct. From comparing the two closeup views of the isolator springs, it looks like there's a difference in coil numbers, spring thickness, and spacing, so I'm pretty sure the one I'm using from 60 is incorrect. Maybe I'll write to Big M & see if he has one.



(60_auto_trans_iso_spring.JPG)



(64_man_trans_iso_spring.JPG)



(64_auto_trans_iso_spring.JPG)



(60_auto_trans_iso_spring_closeup.JPG)



(64_auto_trans_iso_spring_closeup.JPG)



(64_auto_trans_rubber_iso.JPG)



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Attachments 60_auto_trans_iso_spring_closeup.JPG (50KB - 16 downloads)
Attachments 64_auto_trans_iso_spring_closeup.JPG (15KB - 22 downloads)
Attachments 64_auto_trans_rubber_iso.JPG (29KB - 14 downloads)
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