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imperial2100
Posted 2018-07-21 1:03 AM (#566919)
Subject: Carter AFB with small base - model?


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It was suggested to me that my 57 Imperial with the 392 hemi would greatly benefit from a new Carter AFB carb with a small base to increase CFM. It sounds like this would allow me to keep the stock air filter while at the same time improve performance.

My question is, what model of the Carter AFB carbs have the small base to fit my car with the stock air cleaner? Obviously the model with the highest CFM is preferred. Anyone know these Carter models well enough to recommend one?
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Powerflite
Posted 2018-07-21 2:15 AM (#566922 - in reply to #566919)
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I believe that using an AFB would require a spacer under the carb anyway in order to clear the linkage, so the small base isn't a requirement in that case. This is because the larger butterflies have more room to open with the spacer present. And any AFB made before 1967 will have the small opening to fit your air cleaner.
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imperial2100
Posted 2018-07-21 9:08 AM (#566930 - in reply to #566922)
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Thanks. It was explained to me that the small base means it has a small top to fit the filter, so that's why I'm trying to find one that has the small base.

Is there a good web site out there that shows the models with the CFM ratings for Carters prior to 1967?
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Powerflite
Posted 2018-07-21 10:12 AM (#566937 - in reply to #566919)
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Just get one that was originally from a '59-'66 413. I think the CFM are all the same on them. There was also an AFB on the '58 392 hemi, but they are harder to find and are smaller.

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imperial2100
Posted 2018-07-21 10:25 AM (#566939 - in reply to #566937)
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Powerflite - 2018-07-21 11:12 AM

Just get one that was originally from a '59-'66 413. I think the CFM are all the same on them. There was also an AFB on the '58 392 hemi, but they are harder to find and are smaller.

Wasn't the air filter on those years the standard round style over the carb? So it would not fit my stock air cleaner, right?
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Powerflite
Posted 2018-07-21 11:01 AM (#566942 - in reply to #566919)
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It will fit. There are only 2 sizes of openings for the Chrysler 4bbl, large and small. The small was used up to '66, and the large used after that.
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imperial2100
Posted 2018-07-21 11:08 AM (#566944 - in reply to #566919)
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Would I also need an adapter plate under the carb if I got a carb from a 61 Imperial?
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Powerflite
Posted 2018-07-21 11:32 AM (#566946 - in reply to #566919)
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You would need the spacer for any AFB except the '58 392 version.
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imperial2100
Posted 2018-07-21 11:49 AM (#566947 - in reply to #566946)
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Powerflite - 2018-07-21 12:32 PM

You would need the spacer for any AFB except the '58 392 version.

Thanks - any recommended spacer model? Like what should I look for?
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Powerflite
Posted 2018-07-21 12:05 PM (#566948 - in reply to #566919)
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You want it as thin as possible because you may have issues with hood clearance otherwise. The minimum thickness needed is around 1/2". This one would work.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/trd-2528/overview/

But I suggest getting your carb first so you can try it and see what you want to do. If you happen to get one from a '58 392, you wouldn't need the spacer.
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imperial2100
Posted 2018-07-21 6:27 PM (#566971 - in reply to #566948)
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Huge thanks to Powerflite, he helped me tremendously! Ended up picking out a 4131S AFB carb on ebay with his help. Got the spacer on the way as well and a rebuild kit just in case the carb needs it.

Thanks Powerflite!!
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The Adventurer
Posted 2018-07-22 8:21 AM (#566999 - in reply to #566919)
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I have a correct numbered 2806s 1958 392 Hemi Carb here in stock which is fully Concours restored . I bought a 57 and a 58 one and I got them both restored . They have the hole in the side of the choke for the exhaust heat riser pipe to go into .

4131s is a 66 Chrysler 383/440 carb which I have on my 66 300, they are good carb also but incorrect in many ways . They are a rear loader inlet carb also .

Pm me if you are interested , it wont be cheap as the Restoration alone was $400 but its show quality and the choke housing are worth a fortune on their own .
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imperial2100
Posted 2018-07-22 9:43 AM (#567004 - in reply to #566999)
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Thanks Adventurer, I really appreciate it. Seeing as I have the 4131 on it's way, we'll give it a shot. My main goal here is to get a more reliable carb than the WCFB, something to breath a little more air into the engine, and something that will fit the stock air cleaner. We'll see how it goes.
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Posted 2018-07-22 2:06 PM (#567011 - in reply to #566919)
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Be aware that there is a part number change from the air cleaner used on the WCFB in '57 to when they changed over to the AFB late in '57. I've physically compared my '57 air cleaners to a '58 Windsor I have, and the air cleaner "neck" does look different. I think it has to do with the height of the carb. I'm not saying the '57 air cleaner won't work, but I have a feeling the hood will contact the top. Not a lot of clearance...
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Powerflite
Posted 2018-07-22 2:51 PM (#567014 - in reply to #566919)
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I agree that there was a change Brad, but I believe the later AFB air cleaner was taller, correct? So going from a tall WCFB with a short air cleaner to a short AFB with the same short air cleaner will only help you with hood clearance. The 1/2" spacer should bring it back to what you started with.

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Posted 2018-07-22 3:37 PM (#567017 - in reply to #567014)
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When i restored my car 20 years ago i was very looking about OEM or factory parts so i want absolutly a working WCFB with an original air filter, an original glass bowl fuel filter, an original ballast resistor, an original xxx, etc... but since i changed ... My goal is to drive the car on road, not on a trailer ! So i bought a non original Edelbrock, a non original air filter (2 1/2 chinese chrome...), i shorted the ballast and installed a Pertronix, i put an electric fuel pump and .... i drive and run (but i don't install a 350 ci GM or a TH700 !) !
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imperial2100
Posted 2018-07-22 4:00 PM (#567018 - in reply to #567017)
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Phil, I agree... I will never part with the original parts, they will forever stay with this car in case it ever needs to be restored to factory. Like you, I want to drive it comfortably, so having a smoother running engine while trying to stay as visually correct as possible is my goal.
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Posted 2018-07-22 4:01 PM (#567019 - in reply to #567017)
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Beautiful cars by the way!!
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The Adventurer
Posted 2018-07-24 10:02 AM (#567128 - in reply to #566919)
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imperial2100
Posted 2018-07-24 1:28 PM (#567139 - in reply to #567128)
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Thanks, but I'll stick with the cheaper one that Powerflite found for me. I don't really have $500+ dollars to spend on this car right now. The one I picked up is only $75, so I can get a rebuild kit and everything for this 4131 model that looks like it will be just as good and still require the same modification to the throttle linkage. I'll keep the WCFB with the car to maintain it's originality.
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imperial2100
Posted 2018-07-26 2:00 AM (#567193 - in reply to #566919)
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Well, the 4131 carb finally showed up, as did the spacer. The spacer plate does not match the bolt holes, but oddly enough, the gaskets that came with it do.

At least with the carb finally here, I was able to remove the old WCFB carb and drop the new AFB one on. It is now clear I will need an adapter for this carb as the intake manifold has smaller openings than the throttle valves on this carb. Tracked down an adapter online that is specifically for converting WCFB on bottom to AFB on top. Since this adapter is aluminum, I've also ordered another spacer to block heat transfer as well as give a little more space.

The adapter is 0.5 inch and the spacer is another 0.5 inch. The new 4131 carb is 3.75 inches, so that comes out to be about 4.75 inches when it's all stacked.
The old WCFB carb was 4.5 inches alone, and it had a spacer that was just shy of 0.5 inch, so I'll round up to 5 inches total for the original setup.
So my new carb setup is shorter overall, which means I should have no problems with hood clearance. Woo!

The throttle linkage looks to line up pretty well too, so I don't think it will be difficult at all to get this thing hooked up.

In a few days I should have all the parts I need and can try again at putting it all together. Until then, I think I'm going to stick the old carb back on and keep driving it for now.
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Posted 2018-07-26 2:02 AM (#567194 - in reply to #567193)
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The Adventurer
Posted 2018-07-26 2:56 AM (#567195 - in reply to #566919)
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That's cool , I was just trying to help you put it back to correct . The carb sold on ebay today so its gone now anyways .

Before I wrapped it up I was just about to send pics of the 392 AFB and the 4131s (from my 66 Chrysler ) which I have pics of alongside each other , as I said the other day there are many differences including the secondary barrel ports on the 4131s 440 carb are larger than the 392 , as sometimes you end up chasing your tail to correct the wrong carb .

If you put a spacer you will probably not be able to fit the carb under the hood now . The choke is completely different as is the side linkage and the fuel inlet position .

I fitted a 58 300 oval air cleaner to mine , it worked great . If you would like pics email me and I can send as I hate downsizing pictures in here !

Could I buy your cloth covered copper choke pipe off you I can see in your pics ?

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The Adventurer
Posted 2018-07-26 8:21 AM (#567203 - in reply to #566919)
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imperial2100
Posted 2018-07-26 8:21 AM (#567204 - in reply to #567195)
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Thanks for taking the pictures of the carbs side by side, would really like to see them.

I've already compared them as best I can from your ebay pics and I now noticed all four barrels are smaller on your 58 model to line up with the manifold. Also noticed the fuel inlet port moved to the side on mine as you mention.

Already have fuel hose and a new filter sitting here waiting to extend the existing line that ended at the bowl. The only thing I need now are the adapter and spacer... those show up and I think I'm in business!

I think the hood will clear it as the total height will be shorter overall with the adapter and spacer than the old WCFB carb was with the the original spacer.

Do you guys know if that original spacer with the vacuum port coming off it is truly the original spacer for the car?
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imperial2100
Posted 2018-07-26 8:28 AM (#567206 - in reply to #567204)
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The thing I find interesting is that Carter had their standard size set for the barrels all the way back in 57 when they started making their AFB carbs, but for whatever reason, the manifold used in these cars used a smaller size. You can clearly see where your 58 AFB carb had the barrels bored smaller just to accommodate these cars. Maybe the AFB carbs were an after thought for the engineers and they continued using WCFB sized manifolds. Really curious how long they drug this out... would need to see a factory correct 59, 60, and 61 carb for these cars to see if they also use the WCFB size barrels.

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The Adventurer
Posted 2018-07-26 8:36 AM (#567207 - in reply to #566919)
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The carb spacer/gasket looks like a Ford one or a Thermoquad base gasket , as I know Fords used that type during some years .

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imperial2100
Posted 2018-07-26 8:38 AM (#567208 - in reply to #567206)
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Another side thought - I'd really love to see the old Carter factory and all the different components they used to make these different carb models. Wonder if they had an elaborate componentized way of piecing these together before casting them or if they simply made a whole new mold with different ports as they needed it.
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imperial2100
Posted 2018-07-26 8:40 AM (#567209 - in reply to #567207)
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The Adventurer - 2018-07-26 9:36 AM

The carb spacer/gasket looks like a Ford one or a Thermoquad base gasket , as I know Fords used that type during some years .

The spacer lines up with the holes perfectly is why I was asking. Was there a factory 0.5 inch spacer under your 58 when you took it off?
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The Adventurer
Posted 2018-07-26 8:46 AM (#567210 - in reply to #566919)
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I used to have the Rochester and Carter Carb Books . Each carb had numbered items that match each carb etc... . I am no engineer or hot rodder , so I always run the exact carb and dizzy for each car Ive ever owned and never had issues. Once you change one thing it changes other things , but that's just me .

here is an article on the Carter Building out of interest

https://www.hemmings.com/blog/2015/08/26/demolition-of-carter-carbur...

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Posted 2018-07-26 8:54 AM (#567211 - in reply to #566919)
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I have a 57 New Yorker , I have still have the WCFB , but I have a 57 AFB and had the 58 AFB restored ready to fit on . But that base gasket is not on mine I am sure . Many other cars have the same gaskets port size , that's why it fits . I am sure its ford , but I may be wrong
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Posted 2018-07-26 8:56 AM (#567212 - in reply to #566919)
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Posted 2018-07-26 8:57 AM (#567213 - in reply to #566919)
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I wouldn't use 2 spacers or adapters. Just use one. Looks like the one there doesn't have the 2nd set of holes. There are adapters or other spacers have both sets of holes and that should be all you need. The larger throttle plate should clear your intake with one spacer. Test it out to be sure. This Edelbrock is one that has both holes in it. https://www.summitracing.com/parts/edl-8723/overview/

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The Adventurer
Posted 2018-07-26 9:00 AM (#567214 - in reply to #566919)
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Here I found a correct carb on ebay for you . Doesn't have the correct rare choke pipe piece , but you can fit an electric one . Can I buy that copper pipe from your exhaust manifold to your carb if you arent going to use it . mine is missing

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1958-Chrysler-392-Carter-Carburetor...
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imperial2100
Posted 2018-07-26 1:08 PM (#567225 - in reply to #566919)
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Thanks, may fall back on something like that if I need to. As I have this existing one purchased, I'll give it a try.

From what I've been reading, it sounds like I need the adapter for my 4131 because otherwise, fuel will condence on the edges sticking out, reducing fuel economy and reducing performance as it will also hinder air flow. With the adapter, it provides that smooth transition. But since the adapter is aluminum, I need a spacer to keep heat transfer down.
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Posted 2018-07-26 1:52 PM (#567229 - in reply to #567225)
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I doubt you will have issues with heat. I would give it a try with just the adapter first. There is a heat cross-over in the intake, but it isn't very close to the carb, and they are almost always plugged up if the motor hasn't been rebuilt for a while.
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Posted 2018-07-26 9:29 PM (#567259 - in reply to #567210)
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The Adventurer - 2018-07-26 9:46 AM
here is an article on the Carter Building out of interest

https://www.hemmings.com/blog/2015/08/26/demolition-of-carter-carbur...


Interesting. It's sad the site was contaminated so bad, that was a nice factory building just to knock it down. Oh well, another landmark lost. Thanks for sharing the article!

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Posted 2018-07-26 9:31 PM (#567260 - in reply to #567214)
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The Adventurer - 2018-07-26 10:00 AM

Can I buy that copper pipe from your exhaust manifold to your carb if you arent going to use it . mine is missing

Sorry, I'm not selling any of the leftover parts, I'm keeping them with the car in case I ever have a need to bring it back to stock, or someone after me intends to do so.
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Posted 2018-07-26 9:34 PM (#567261 - in reply to #567229)
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Powerflite - 2018-07-26 2:52 PM

I doubt you will have issues with heat. I would give it a try with just the adapter first. There is a heat cross-over in the intake, but it isn't very close to the carb, and they are almost always plugged up if the motor hasn't been rebuilt for a while.

I thought it was always a good thing to have more space to give you a longer barrel chamber in order to build up more mixed fuel capacity at greater velocity into the engine. That's why a lot of people use a 1 inch spacer, for that added performance... or so I thought based on what I've read. Having the adapter and the spacer gives me a nice 1 inch additional barrel length for that capacity and velocity.
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Posted 2018-07-26 10:03 PM (#567266 - in reply to #566919)
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True, but it'll look more goofy, and hood clearance may be effected. But give it a try and see what you think. I run an aluminum spacer on the hemi in my Savoy and have no heat issues.
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Posted 2018-07-26 10:06 PM (#567267 - in reply to #567266)
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Powerflite - 2018-07-26 11:03 PM

True, but it'll look more goofy, and hood clearance may be effected. But give it a try and see what you think. I run an aluminum spacer on the hemi in my Savoy and have no heat issues.

That's good to know, thanks!
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imperial2100
Posted 2018-07-28 8:41 PM (#567349 - in reply to #566919)
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The good news - Got the 4131 carb hooked up and it runs. Also, the hood clears with the air cleaner when on the spacer and adapter.

The bad news is the throttle linkage is all wrong. I was thinking it might be an adjustable thing, but this carb is missing the entire lower option for throttle hookup, so I have no way to link it.

Anyone aware of an adapter I can use? Seems like it would be simple to clamp something on to allow a lower throttle hookup.

I'm starting to fear that my first attempt into carb swapping has ended with disaster and I may need to give up on this and start over again with a new carb.
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Posted 2018-07-28 8:44 PM (#567350 - in reply to #566919)
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Please ignore the poor throttle return spring placement, I just stuck it on somewhere to at least test the carb would run. You can see here that it's missing the lower throttle hookup.



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The Adventurer
Posted 2018-07-28 9:39 PM (#567354 - in reply to #566919)
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I wasn't being pessimistic or trying to do an I told you so , I was just trying to help as Ive seen it a million times with friends trying to make incorrect engine items work .

You really do just end up chasing your tail once you change things , as they make these carbs specific to fit that one car . You can buy that correct 392 rebuilder core for $99 on ebay or search or maybe someone here has one cheaper . That way your fuel line , choke and linkage will be correct and its the actually correct CFM /flow etc.. for your car .

You ill still be able to sell the 4131s as that's a correct 1966 383/440 carb for Chrysler dodge Plymouth .

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Posted 2018-07-29 12:29 AM (#567357 - in reply to #566919)
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Usually, you can drill a new hole where you need it, but yours doesn't extend down far enough. But you can make a plate and bolt it on with a second hole. Use a small 4-40 or 6-32 screw for the second one to fit easier. Make the plate long enough to fit a connection where you want it. Another option is to swap out the throttle arm with one from a different carb, but that is more trouble.

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Posted 2018-07-29 6:01 PM (#567376 - in reply to #566919)
Subject: Re: Carter AFB with small base - model?



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Using your old carby as a guide, make a plate, but you need to make sure the hole for your linkage it in the right spot.

The other things you need to check is that with the spacers, you may have issues with your kick down lever adjustment and geometry

You also need to check that you get full travel on the cable, full throttle and the cable not holding the plates open at rest

Carby changes are not hard, but are rarely "bolt on". I would have gone for a later AFB from Summit than dealing with a used stock type

It worries me that it looks like it was sand blasted and that's a terrible way to try and clean a carb

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imperial2100
Posted 2018-07-31 7:15 PM (#567530 - in reply to #567376)
Subject: Re: Carter AFB with small base - model?


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Thanks for the advice, I decided I'm probably not educated enough at this point to manage a used carb as I don't know if it's truly working correctly or if it's missing pieces, etc. I just bought a new (factory refurbished) edelbrock 1411 carb and it's showing up on Friday. At least it should be bolt on as it has all the proper linkage hookups and I already got the needed adapters.

I had been holding off on getting a modern carb because I really wanted to keep the stock air cleaner in place, but that wouldn't fit a modern sized carb. I found someone selling adapters to fit these older air cleaners right onto a modern carb, so now it's not so bad other than the cost. I can even send back the 4131 to get $50 core refund. Would lose $25 doing this, but at least I learned more than $25 worth of knowledge out of it.

Also learned to never buy Spectre parts from Auto Zone. Those things are terrible! The fuel filter I bought of that brand leaks no matter what I do, and the fuel inlet port I bought to fit the carb doesn't fit at all, and even right on the packaging it says what size wrench to use to tighten it, and it doesn't fit either. I will never buy that brand again.
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Shep
Posted 2018-08-01 10:06 AM (#567568 - in reply to #567530)
Subject: Re: Carter AFB with small base - model?



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Hmm, thank you China!! And this is without tariffs. Lol
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Stroller
Posted 2018-10-13 12:43 PM (#571608 - in reply to #566919)
Subject: Re: Carter AFB with small base - model?


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Man oh man do I remember the carb swaps for improvement, lol. My '56 354 hemi has it's original carb and works just fine. Thing about carbs is volumetric effiency, needed cfms, heat cross overs and chokes. Too small a carb and it starves, too big and it over loads. I remember back in the day, so to say, we would change intake manifold gaskets to block cross overs thinking = more power, nope. In the cold climates you need the cross overs to heat the intake so the engine runs smooth. To me a square bore is great for lighting up tires and running a 1/4 mile, but for daily driver nothing but problems. A good old spread bore w/vacum secondaries work flawlessly for a daily driver dual purpose get it on lead foot.

A 392 stock hemi should have I think at least a 900 cfm. I love them old carter carbs but you can still buy a brand new one, an edelbrock. The 392 is a great monster engine look at one today, holy s**t. Heck I have an old holly 750 dbl pumper for a 289. Unless that engine is hitting 5 grand regularly this carb is ridiculos but fun as hell. Probably save money doing an adaptamatic finding a machine shop with a cnc and chunk of alcoa and just make the plate you need if so.
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imperial2100
Posted 2018-10-13 12:51 PM (#571610 - in reply to #571608)
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That 1411 Edelbrock turned out to be too large (too rich). The exhaust was always smelling like gas. Dropped back to a 1406 and it's working much better.
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