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1coolbanana
Posted 2018-08-15 11:54 PM (#568507)
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Hey guys
Im looking at a set of wheels for my 1960 New Yorker.

Front 255/50-17 on a 8 " rim with 4.5" backspace
rear 275/50-17 on a 9 " rim with 5" backspace

Will these fit without any aggro, rubbing, or disconnecting anything to remove and replace.

Thanks for any help.
Cheers

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Posted 2018-08-16 6:42 PM (#568536 - in reply to #568507)
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17" ??????? You can't possibly be serious. A 15" wheel with 235/75R-15 tires will look really nice with no interference issues. Jerry
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Posted 2018-08-16 6:57 PM (#568541 - in reply to #568507)
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You might want to rent one of those tire sizing tools from a custom shop in you area.. Then you can figure out the absolute correct size without guessing and buying expensive shoes.
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Posted 2018-08-16 10:14 PM (#568547 - in reply to #568541)
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1coolbanana
Posted 2018-08-17 3:27 AM (#568551 - in reply to #568536)
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17" ??????? You can't possibly be serious. A 15" wheel with 235/75R-15 tires will look really nice with no interference issues. Jerry


Absolutely serious, why wouldnt I be?
Would 18's be better

Im running 235/75-14 now
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Posted 2018-08-17 3:28 AM (#568552 - in reply to #568547)
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Lancer Mike - 2018-08-17 1:14 PM

If you do a lift kit, the sky's the limit!

 



Its dropped 2"
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Posted 2018-08-17 5:46 AM (#568554 - in reply to #568507)
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To each his own, but with a drop of 2", fat low profile tires and oversized rims, the ride might be a dissapointment.

I hear lots of complaint about bad roadability on their GM cars with prarie schooner rims and low profile tires. Youngster like the looks and can tolerate the "exciting driving experience"

I presume that the torsion bars have been adjusted out of specs, so check the camber, it might be totally off with that kind of drop.

Save the original rims and white wall tires, you'll eventually like to mount them again…...
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1coolbanana
Posted 2018-08-17 6:37 AM (#568556 - in reply to #568507)
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To each their own I guess, thanks for the wisdom

 

 

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Posted 2018-08-17 8:15 AM (#568559 - in reply to #568507)
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That's Herman, he normally goes straight ahead on the strip

The camber angles are perhaps too much for low profile tires.

Let's see if Herman kicks in with his experience of the low ride
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Posted 2018-08-17 11:47 AM (#568565 - in reply to #568507)
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According to that site, the rear tires you are choosing are nominally taller but not enough to make a difference. Tape measure the wheel tub and if there is clearance for the width. The fronts are shorter and only slightly wider. You should have no problems fitting those if there is width in the wheel tub. Honestly, I can't remember off the top of my head.
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Posted 2018-08-18 5:57 PM (#568608 - in reply to #568507)
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I can drive all day in and around town with speedbumps and all with the '60 NY and not hit anything underneath.
The rear tires will rub very slightly when taking a sharp corner a little too quickly.
A better front swaybar could prevent that but I'm aware of it and drive accordingly.




My '65 300 convertible has 275/50/17" on the rear-axle without any issues.
Proper wheel-offset is king.
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Posted 2018-08-19 3:24 AM (#568624 - in reply to #568608)
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BigBlockMopar - 2018-08-19 8:57 AM

I can drive all day in and around town with speedbumps and all with the '60 NY and not hit anything underneath.
The rear tires will rub very slightly when taking a sharp corner a little too quickly.
A better front swaybar could prevent that but I'm aware of it and drive accordingly.




My '65 300 convertible has 275/50/17" on the rear-axle without any issues.
Proper wheel-offset is king.


Very nice
Would love to see more pictures, looks great.

The 9" rims have a 5" backspace, the 8" rim has 4.5" backspace.
Would you consider this to be ok?

Stock 6.5" rims Ive got have 4.5" offset.

TIA for any help.
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Posted 2018-08-19 4:34 AM (#568626 - in reply to #568507)
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The backspacing sounds about right.
It's better to have slightly too much backspacing than too little. Too much backspacing can be solved with a thin machined spacer.

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Posted 2018-08-19 5:04 AM (#568627 - in reply to #568626)
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BigBlockMopar - 2018-08-19 7:34 PM

The backspacing sounds about right.
It's better to have slightly too much backspacing than too little. Too much backspacing can be solved with a thin machined spacer.



Many thanks
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Posted 2018-08-20 2:45 PM (#568707 - in reply to #568507)
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Years ago...I ran 15" by 8" Aluminum wheels with 5" back spacing and L60 tires and had no problems on a 61 Chrysler Picture and part number for 300 G wheel,
Back spacing is 4"
Might not be relative today.

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Posted 2018-08-20 3:16 PM (#568710 - in reply to #568624)
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1coolbanana - 2018-08-19 3:24 AM



Stock 6.5" rims Ive got have 4.5" offset.

TIA for any help.


Offset? Not possible. Stock offset for these cars is usually 0.5". With 4.5" offset you couldn't even mount the wheels.
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Posted 2018-08-20 4:38 PM (#568715 - in reply to #568507)
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There's also a big difference in "offset" and "backspacing".

I recall my '64 NewYorker Salon had 6.5" wide wheels on it.
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Posted 2018-08-20 5:03 PM (#568716 - in reply to #568710)
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1coolbanana - 2018-08-19 3:24 AM



Stock 6.5" rims Ive got have 4.5" offset.

TIA for any help.


Offset? Not possible. Stock offset for these cars is usually 0.5". With 4.5" offset you couldn't even mount the wheels.


My apologies, I meant back space


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Posted 2018-08-22 2:24 PM (#568848 - in reply to #568507)
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The tires in the photo above of my '60 NY are just under 300mm wide., but I just found some older pics of the 325/15" Mickey Thompson tires I had tried on the car;
I fits, but barely.



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Posted 2018-08-22 2:25 PM (#568850 - in reply to #568507)
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Same 325mm wheels on my '62 NY wagon;




And on the '59 Dodge Coronet;




Can you tell I like to experiment with large tires?


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1coolbanana
Posted 2018-08-22 4:47 PM (#568859 - in reply to #568507)
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Thanks for the pictures!
Thats awesome :-)
What is the rim width and back space youve used?
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Posted 2018-08-22 5:02 PM (#568863 - in reply to #568507)
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Custom widened and backspaced wheel with 9" width. I seem to recall, at the time I made a calculation error and relied too much on the shop's experience doing the widening. As a result the backspacing of this pair of wheels was a little too much, and I had to run thin spacers to keep the tires from rubbing the leafsprings. Been a long time.

IMO Chrysler positioned their wheels halfway in the available wheel-well, so 'usually' the 'proper' backspacing is half the wheel-width, with a little extra added to that. About 1/4" I think.
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Posted 2018-08-22 5:22 PM (#568864 - in reply to #568507)
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The 9" rims Im looking at have a 5" backspace.
The 8's have 4.5" which appears to be what the original 6.5" rims are.

Sounds like it should be about right I hope but maybe the 8's are a bit big for the front?

Many thanks and I love the look of your cars :-)
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Posted 2018-08-22 7:43 PM (#568871 - in reply to #568507)
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I run 8" wide wheels on the front of my '58 Dodge. They are tight, but do work.

Zero offset is where the mounting point is equally spaced inside to outside. Zero offset is equivalent to 1/2 wheel width + 0.5" for backspace. So a perfectly centered 9" wheel would have a 5" backspace.... i.e. 4.5 + 0.5 = 5.
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Posted 2018-08-23 1:18 PM (#568905 - in reply to #568507)
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I usually run upto 235/60 tires up front on my cars.
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Posted 2018-09-08 1:57 AM (#569798 - in reply to #568507)
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275 on a 9" rim Cragars worked ok luckily.
Wanted 4.4 - 5.0 backspace but ended up with 3.75.

Just squeezed in nicely but would prefer bit more backspace.
Plenty clearance on the inside, barely a finger on the outside.

8's on the fron with 235



Edited by 1coolbanana 2018-09-08 2:01 AM
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Posted 2018-09-08 6:02 AM (#569804 - in reply to #568507)
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Posted 2018-09-08 2:33 PM (#569816 - in reply to #568507)
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Great car CoolBanana, love the white over purple. The 1960 Chryslers and DeSotos are about the best looking 4 door sedans ever made. How long have you had this car? Is it pretty stock?
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Posted 2018-09-09 5:33 AM (#569838 - in reply to #569816)
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jboymechanic - 2018-09-09 5:33 AM

Great car CoolBanana, love the white over purple. The 1960 Chryslers and DeSotos are about the best looking 4 door sedans ever made. How long have you had this car? Is it pretty stock?


Havent had it that long but I reckon Ive put about 1000 hours into it so far!

Its mostly stock apart from from dress up bits.
Lots more to do as more funds become availaable, actually, does it ever end?
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Posted 2018-09-09 8:51 AM (#569842 - in reply to #569816)
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jboymechanic - 2018-09-08 8:33 PM

Great car CoolBanana, love the white over purple. The 1960 Chryslers and DeSotos are about the best looking 4 door sedans ever made. How long have you had this car? Is it pretty stock?



In 1960, the roof, front window and rear window was the same for the 4 door sedan and the 4 door hardtop. This makes the sedan appears just as sleep as the 4 door hardtop.

The earlier "turtleback" sedans had higher windows/roof and looks somewhat out of propotion
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Posted 2018-09-30 4:08 AM (#570934 - in reply to #568507)
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As a bit of an update....

Yeah, I know and expect the "I told you so"

I tried and tried and tried with the 17" Cragars but could not get rid of the vibes or get the wheels to run true once mounted.
Could not run at motorway speeds.

I do appear to have a slightly bent left rear axle but its only a small amount, 0.5mm TIR axial on the mounting face.
Nothing I can do about that for now anyway.

The wheel have been balanced and checked for trueness but I cannot get them to mount successfully against the drum faces.
Ive checked the wheels themselves and they are fine but something is going on when mounting the flat face of the alloy Cragars to the drum faces.

Tried everything.

Re-fitted the stock steel wheels and all is well in the universe and feng shui has been restored again! I dont get it!

Will try again with set of 15" steel rims and see how that goes.
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Posted 2018-09-30 4:42 AM (#570936 - in reply to #568507)
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If the rims have combination slots that will cover several bolt circles (won't fit any bolt circle good), then the center rings is a must (practically a ring that has the rim center diameter as OD and the drum hub diameter as ID with an appropriate height.

I've just made one test ring for Keystone rims on a '66 Pontiac and it's a huge improvement.
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Posted 2018-09-30 5:36 AM (#570939 - in reply to #568507)
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It has correct stud hole spacing and I made some locating rings as well.
It was a small improvement but only marginal not enough to be acceptable.
Really got me beat.
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Posted 2018-09-30 6:42 AM (#570940 - in reply to #568507)
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I measured one of the Keystone rims;

Lateral throw out = 2,5 millimeter
Radial out of round = 2,2 millimeter

With these "minor" errors, the car was shaking pretty bad in low speeds, but not noticable on higher speeds
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Posted 2018-10-01 6:07 AM (#570997 - in reply to #568507)
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Figured Id not worry about it too much today and just take my 2 old girls for a drive instead



Edited by 1coolbanana 2018-10-01 6:08 AM
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Posted 2018-10-01 11:17 AM (#571010 - in reply to #570997)
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Some thoughts.

Mopars of this era do NOT have a perfectly smooth drum surface. There are rivets holding the hub to the drum, and most (all?) have a locating pin for the factory steel wheels. I have to assume you have removed the large pin but the stamped steel wheels do have raised dimples in between the lug holes that allow space for the rivets. Do your Cragar wheels have indentions to allow space for those rivets?

Make certain the lug nuts you are using are the correct type for your wheels.

If using closed-end lug nuts, make certain they are seating the wheel, and not just seating against the end of the stud!

Check wheel runout on a wheel balancing machine. If that is okay, check for a bad tire(s).



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1coolbanana
Posted 2018-10-01 5:29 PM (#571025 - in reply to #568507)
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My drums are not like that at all, they arent even the same from side to side.
Mine has been modified in its life and the drums have been separated from the hubs.

RHS


LHS

 

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Posted 2018-10-01 6:41 PM (#571027 - in reply to #571010)
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Some thoughts.

Mopars of this era do NOT have a perfectly smooth drum surface. There are rivets holding the hub to the drum, and most (all?) have a locating pin for the factory


Aren't we talking 1960? In all these years working on 60s I've never seen a drum like that and I've never seen a locating pin on a FL hub/drum either. And never saw a riveted one, like the one you posted, just swaged like the last picture by the OP (use to be). Are you saying this is a 60 Mopar drum?

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Posted 2018-10-01 9:30 PM (#571036 - in reply to #568507)
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I think the picture with the drums with rivets and locating pin is earlier as it uses wheel bolts instead of studs. Wasn't that the approach for 1957 or 1958 Plymouths?
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Posted 2018-11-18 1:06 PM (#573717 - in reply to #568507)
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I'd be wondering on tires meeting leaf springs. Cool purple. I once had a '71 Plymouth Satalite Sebring Plus, 440 hp, slap stick yep it was fast. Thing had them little 14" rims. I tried putting in 15" but could not find a combination that would work. Had a set of crager deep dishes, and unless low profiles were put on would not clear fender wells. Sorry but I am not a fan of slam it down with big hoops. I want some side wall flex when me in the go faster mode.
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Posted 2018-11-20 11:45 AM (#573844 - in reply to #571025)
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1coolbanana.... what lugs were you trying with the aluminum wheels? 60 degree taper or?
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Posted 2018-11-20 2:45 PM (#573863 - in reply to #573844)
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CrAzYMoPaRGuY - 2018-11-21 2:45 AM

1coolbanana.... what lugs were you trying with the aluminum wheels? 60 degree taper or?


Standard conical seat on the Cragars.

And was using standard type conical seat lugs.
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Posted 2018-11-20 11:11 PM (#573887 - in reply to #573863)
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1coolbanana.... what lugs were you trying with the aluminum wheels? 60 degree taper or?


Standard conical seat on the Cragars.

And was using standard type conical seat lugs.


So the wheel should in theory center with the lugs on the studs.
I actually like the look of those wheels on your car. I wonder if axle runout bad but would be the same regardless of which wheels were mounted. If the wheels fully seat on the drum over the hub... must be in the wheel? Have you tried mounting the wheels on another vehicle and seeing if it drives smooth or not?
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Posted 2018-11-20 11:23 PM (#573888 - in reply to #568507)
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Yeah, I liked the look of the wheels but 17's were a hassle to get the correct size tyre, I couldnt get rid of the vibes and so I moved them on.
Im running stock steels and although the rims have the same runout, the big sidewalls seem to take up the slack and its not a problem cruising on the freeway whereas I couldnt do that with the Cragars.

The axle is a problem and is the next thing on the agenda to fix but Im concerned about a way to fix it, depending on what I find when I take it apart.
Parts are non existent here and anything from OS takes weeks if not months even if I can find a replacement part, axle or hub and drum etc that is and I fear it will be off the road for a while if I take it apart.


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Posted 2018-11-21 12:00 PM (#573910 - in reply to #568507)
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Egads you are in Australia or??
I just bought an 8 3/4 rear last night, drum to drum with good brakes and shock plates included. Cost me a bottle of rum. Parts are cheap here.
I liked those wheels on your car. But I liked the car........ lol
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Posted 2018-11-21 2:45 PM (#573919 - in reply to #568507)
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Do you have spare axle youd like to post me
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