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Milt60
Posted 2018-10-13 8:41 AM (#571598)
Subject: 1957 CRL D500


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I am looking at this car, 57 Custom Royal Lancer 4 door hardtop, has D500 badge on the trunk, engine is gone, lots of numbers on the data tag, any help is appreciated.



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56D500boy
Posted 2018-10-13 10:41 AM (#571603 - in reply to #571598)
Subject: RE: 1957 CRL D500



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I'm sure that LD3Greg will be along shortly to help you, but in the meantime:





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56D500boy
Posted 2018-10-13 10:49 AM (#571604 - in reply to #571603)
Subject: RE: 1957 CRL D500



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56D500boy - 2018-10-13 10:41 AM

I'm sure that LD3Greg and/or Chrycoman will be along shortly to help you, but in the meantime:



Your important codes that are listed in Neil Vedder's and LD3Greg's info sheet (improved version of the 57 Broadcast sheet)

293
395
421
469
485
491
513
585

You're missing the 372 D500 engine code but YIKES!! you have the 491 = Super D500 (2 x 4bbl) code !!!!. Where's the engine?

Your car was schedule to be built on March 27, 1957.

The PaiNT 4LPL implies two tone white and Gallant Gold.





Edited by 56D500boy 2018-10-13 2:25 PM
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56D500boy
Posted 2018-10-13 11:16 AM (#571605 - in reply to #571604)
Subject: RE: 1957 CRL D500



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Is this your car?



REFERENCE: https://www.hemmings.com/blog/2015/08/07/a-dodge-custom-royal-lancer...

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1959 Belvedere Conv
Posted 2018-10-13 2:13 PM (#571616 - in reply to #571598)
Subject: Re: 1957 CRL D500


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On the accessory groups listed above on the IBM card Key of Neil's and Greg's, does anyone have a further breakdown on what the different accessory groups would contain option wise within that accessory Group? On my 59 Plymouth Convert, I have the 59 Plymouth salesman pocket guide which spelled out what was in the groups, does the 57 Dodge have one of these guide books?

John
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56D500boy
Posted 2018-10-13 2:23 PM (#571617 - in reply to #571616)
Subject: Re: 1957 CRL D500



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Agree, it would be nice to know what is in each of the accessory groups. I am quite sure that each year had a listing of the individual options (and prices) as well as the groupings. Something like this for the 1956 Dodges:

Somebody with a 1957 should have the equivalent to these:



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Milt60
Posted 2018-10-13 2:34 PM (#571620 - in reply to #571598)
Subject: Re: 1957 CRL D500


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That is quite interesting, and that is possibly my car, although mine has a local history I haven't got into very far yet
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1959 Belvedere Conv
Posted 2018-10-13 4:08 PM (#571628 - in reply to #571598)
Subject: Re: 1957 CRL D500


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<p>Excellent! Now we just need the same for the 57 accessory groups. Anyone out there that can fill in the blanks for an 57 Dodge similar to this 56 book, in regards to what is contained in the accessory groups called out in the IBM card? John</p>

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56D500boy
Posted 2018-10-13 6:04 PM (#571632 - in reply to #571628)
Subject: Re: 1957 CRL D500



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1959 Belvedere Conv - 2018-10-13 4:08 PM

Excellent! Now we just need the same for the 57 accessory groups. Anyone out there that can fill in the blanks for an 57 Dodge similar to this 56 book, in regards to what is contained in the accessory groups called out in the IBM card? John




In pursuit of a 57 Dodge Accessories brochure, I bumped into these which provide some info about the 57 D500 and Super D500 engines:






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LD3 Greg
Posted 2018-10-13 6:07 PM (#571633 - in reply to #571598)
Subject: RE: 1957 CRL D500


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Milt60 - 2018-10-13 8:41 AM

I am looking at this car, 57 Custom Royal Lancer 4 door hardtop, has D500 badge on the trunk, engine is gone, lots of numbers on the data tag, any help is appreciated.


Hi Milton. I'm Greg Leggatt, a voice from the past!!

The body plate indicates, CR 4 Dr. HT with an optional engine. Either D500 or Super D. Only the punch card will tell.
Paint, trim and build date are obvious. It is coded as Torqueflite, undercoat, shipped to the dealer by truck, power brakes, solex w/s and accessory groups 1,3 and 5. The punch card is needed for any other options.

Accessory group 1. Basic Accessory Group: Heater/defroster, backup lights, left outside mirror and day/nite interior mirror.

Accessory group 2. Radio group: All items above plus Musicmaster radio.

Accessory group 3. Convenience Group: Handbrake warning light, map and glovebox lights, variable speed wipers, windshield washer, vanity mirror and airfoam rear seat.

Accessory group 4. Appearance group: Stone shields, plastic steering wheel and standard wheel covers.

Accessory group 5. Deluxe appearance group: All items above but with spinner wheel covers.

Others asked for the contents of the groups so I included them.

Greg
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LD3 Greg
Posted 2018-10-13 6:26 PM (#571634 - in reply to #571604)
Subject: RE: 1957 CRL D500


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56D500boy - 2018-10-13 10:49 AM

56D500boy - 2018-10-13 10:41 AM

I'm sure that LD3Greg and/or Chrycoman will be along shortly to help you, but in the meantime:



Your important codes that are listed in Neil Vedder's and LD3Greg's info sheet (improved version of the 57 Broadcast sheet)

293
395
421
469
485
491
513
585

You're missing the 372 D500 engine code but YIKES!! you have the 491 = Super D500 (2 x 4bbl) code !!!!. Where's the engine?

Your car was schedule to be built on March 27, 1957.

The PaiNT 4LPL implies two tone white and Gallant Gold.





Dave. As I mentioned before, the vertical read codes on a 57 Dodge only body plate are not sales codes. The sales codes are all listed on the broadcast sheet and they are what are used on the punch cards.

It is only the last digit of the vertical code that relates to the actual sales code. For example, your vertical code 491 refers to sales code 331 which is accessory group 1.

Greg
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Milt60
Posted 2018-10-13 7:15 PM (#571636 - in reply to #571633)
Subject: RE: 1957 CRL D500


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Hi Milton. I'm Greg Leggatt, a voice from the past!!

Hi Greg, I was just thinking about the Early Hemi Association the other day. 30 years later found an actual D500.

The body plate indicates, CR 4 Dr. HT with an optional engine. Either D500 or Super D. Only the punch card will tell.
Paint, trim and build date are obvious. It is coded as Torqueflite, undercoat, shipped to the dealer by truck, power brakes, solex w/s and accessory groups 1,3 and 5. The punch card is needed for any other options.

And where besides the back of the glovebox and under the seats would one locate a punch card?
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LD3 Greg
Posted 2018-10-13 7:27 PM (#571637 - in reply to #571636)
Subject: RE: 1957 CRL D500


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The punch card has to come from FCA. Someone here can give you the info to get a copy of your car.

Good luck with your hunt! Yeah, it has been at least 30 years!
Greg
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