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Hyfire
Posted 2018-11-12 3:07 PM (#573393)
Subject: 1958 Chrysler 300-D



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  Hello guys!

 

  Can anyone shed any light on this car's IBM card?   I'm trying to see what options it had and any other info.  THANK YOU FOR ANY HELP!!!!

 

   Josh

 

 

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Hyfire
Posted 2018-11-20 2:00 PM (#573859 - in reply to #573393)
Subject: Re: 1958 Chrysler 300-D



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Just FYI. This build card isn't for my car. It's for the Magee 300D ran at Daytona Beach in 1958. The car wasn't terribly successful, but it's the only other 300D stick built that year (beside the Bonneville car). I'm curious to see the differences and any similarities.

Anything look familiar to anyone???

Thanks!

Josh
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Chrycoman
Posted 2018-11-21 10:57 PM (#573948 - in reply to #573393)
Subject: Re: 1958 Chrysler 300-D



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Well, to go through the list - (First two numbers listed are also the column number on the IBM card - the three together form the sales code)

01-0
02-2 Scheduled Shipping Date :
03-1 0212 - February 12
04-2
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05-1
06-6 Item
07-2
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08-- Number of Cars
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09-1
10-9 Region
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11-
12-5
13-1 Dealer Number
14-2
15-3
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16-5
17-2 Dealer Order Number
18-1
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19-5 - Make - C - Chrysler
20-9 - Series - 300-D
21-2 - Body Style - 2dr Hardtop
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22-- Group Ship
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23-07 - X
24-08 - X
24-09 - X
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26-0
27-1 - Interior Trim
28-6
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29-- - Sort Code
30-- - Power Equipment
31-- - Accessory Groups
32-- - Convertible Top
33-- - Aerials
34-5 - Heaters - Custom Conditionaire Heater with Defroster
35-- - Miscellaneous
36-- - Clock
37-- - Fuel Injection
38-- - License Frames
39--
40-1 = Mirror - Left, Out Side, Manual
40-3 = Mirror - Right, Out Side, Manual
41-- - Moulding
42-- - Moulding
43-- - Instrument Panel
44-- - Radio
45-- - Springs
46-- - Solex
47-- - Steering Wheels
48-- - Stone Shields
49-- - Stone Shields
50-- - Undercoating
51-- - Wheel Covers
52-- - Windshield Washers
53-7 - Tires - Nylon, 9.00x14"
54-7
55-3 - Axle Ratio - 3.31:1
56-1 - New Car Service
56-2 - Sold Car (Customer placed order for car)
57-8 - Generator - 30 Amp - 5½" Frame
58-- - Batteries
59-- - Export
60-- - Miscellaneous
61-1 - Drive - Domestic
62-- - Order Received Date
63-9 - Route - Customer Drive
64-4 - Special Order
65-3 - Special Order
66-6 -
67-1 -
- - - - - - - - - - - -
68-L - Model Year - 1958
69-C - Make - Chrysler
70-4 - Series - 300-D
- - - - - - - -
71-0 -
72-0 -
73-1 -
74-5 -
75-1 -
76-5 -
- - - - - - - -
77-4
78-8 - Motor
79-1
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80-9 - Tracking - Car Shipped

The IBM card records the Scheduled Build Date as February 12, 1958
Stamped on the card -
Date Built - February 12, 1958
Date Shipped - February 14, 1958


There is no code for transmission on the card as Torqueflite was standard on all models and no other transmission was available to the public. However, there are some Special Order numbers that would have covered any equipment changes / additions made to the car.






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Hyfire
Posted 2018-11-21 11:51 PM (#573952 - in reply to #573393)
Subject: Re: 1958 Chrysler 300-D



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Thanks for the help Bill !!!

I was told once that the manual trans was represented by the corner being cut off. I don’t know if that’s true, but my manual ‘58 300 has the same trimmed corner.

Thanks Bill!
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Chrycoman
Posted 2018-11-22 12:51 AM (#573954 - in reply to #573393)
Subject: Re: 1958 Chrysler 300-D



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The trimmed corner? The IBM card for the 1962 Dodge Lancer GT with Torqueflite I once owned had it, too.

The purpose of the trimmed corner was to ensure all the cards were the right way up as well as facing the one way. Before the days of direct data entry on a terminal with monitor and keyboard, all data entered was done by IBM punch cards. A clerk would type all the data for the card and the machine would punch the necessary holes. Then the pile of cards was placed in the computer's card reader, which would read the data holes on each card. The cards were sorted and then the update program was run. If a card was placed in the deck the wrong way the card would be rejected and the data on it tossed.

If you ever watch the first season of Mannix you will see them sorting IBM data cards. and producing the one Mannix needs for that day's program.

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Hyfire
Posted 2018-11-22 9:09 AM (#573968 - in reply to #573393)
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More excellent info, as usual Bill!

Thank you!

I’ll post my card as well. It may or may not help find more info, but wouldn’t hurt.

Josh
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finsruskw
Posted 2018-11-22 9:40 AM (#573972 - in reply to #573393)
Subject: Re: 1958 Chrysler 300-D



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Josh, here's the special order form that was under the rear seat floor carpet in my Polar Blue 300-F.

I would assume the SO form for earlier years would look somewhat the same only with the pertinent info for that car as this form has a date of 3-56 in the upper left corner. This leads me to thin k it was used for earlier model Chryslers that required a change from production norms.



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(F special car order form 003.JPG)



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Hyfire
Posted 2018-11-22 12:46 PM (#573988 - in reply to #573393)
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Wow! That’s an amazing piece of documentation! You’re a lucky man!

I bet you’re right on it being used earlier. I haven’t taken my seats out of my D, but I’ve looked under most of the carpet... with the exception of the rear. I’ve been all over the C300, but nothing yet.

Thanks for sharing that! Great stuff!
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1959 Belvedere Conv
Posted 2018-11-23 1:24 PM (#574023 - in reply to #573393)
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<p>Neat card.. At the bottom list a suburb of Detroit that I grew up in the 60's and 70's. Grosse Pointe, Michigan. Under Dealer section... And there is a Fisher Road in GP but don't know a Fisher Record. My Dad and Grandfather both worked for Chrysler as Engineers back then. Dad in 1959 and my grandfather in 1955, both would retire from Chrysler eventually.</p>

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finsruskw
Posted 2018-11-23 2:10 PM (#574027 - in reply to #573393)
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AS I understand it, the original Fisher Record dealership bldg is still standing and was the movie scene for the hardware store scene in "Gran Torino"
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1959 Belvedere Conv
Posted 2018-11-23 10:56 PM (#574044 - in reply to #574027)
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finsruskw - 2018-11-23 1:10 PM AS I understand it, the original Fisher Record dealership bldg is still standing and was the movie scene for the hardware store scene in "Gran Torino"

Dave, I will be back in Grosse Pointe next June for my Nephews wedding and will check it out. Do you have an actual address for it? I will snap a picture of the building for you. 

 

John

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JimK
Posted 2018-11-24 7:24 AM (#574056 - in reply to #573393)
Subject: RE: 1958 Chrysler 300-D



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The address is 15020 Kercheval, Grosse Pointe Park MI. About 2/3 of the building is Pointe Hardware and 1/3
is a yoga studio. You can Google it and look at street view. Inside the hardware store, they have several pictures
of the old dealership on the wall. I'll take some photos of them today.

Jim K
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finsruskw
Posted 2018-11-24 8:47 AM (#574058 - in reply to #573393)
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That's great Guys!
Looking forward to seeing them!
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56D500boy
Posted 2018-11-24 11:10 AM (#574063 - in reply to #574056)
Subject: RE: 1958 Chrysler 300-D



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JimK - 2018-11-24 7:24 AM

The address is 15020 Kercheval, Grosse Pointe Park MI. About 2/3 of the building is Pointe Hardware and 1/3
is a yoga studio. You can Google it and look at street view. Inside the hardware store, they have several pictures
of the old dealership on the wall. I'll take some photos of them today.

Jim K


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Hyfire
Posted 2018-11-24 11:23 AM (#574064 - in reply to #573393)
Subject: Re: 1958 Chrysler 300-D



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That’s a good looking hardware store. Gotta imagine the windows were bigger as a dealership.

Come on Jimbo... go grab those photos! We’re waiting here! ;0)
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JimK
Posted 2018-11-27 6:01 PM (#574229 - in reply to #573393)
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Darn, only one photo of the dealership there now. The help doesn't know about others. I'll attach a copy.
I emailed the Fisher Record family to see if they have any photos.




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1959 Belvedere Conv
Posted 2018-11-28 9:13 PM (#574312 - in reply to #573393)
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Neat pictures. Kercheval is a Big Bucks address. I lived at the other end of Grosse Pointe in Grosse Pointe Woods.
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