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hemidenis
Posted 2018-12-17 7:47 PM (#575402)
Subject: Original style Mopar spark plug cables reproduction.



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Since it is virtually impossible to buy NOS Spark plug cables, I'm talking to a manufacturer with the idea of the reproduce the Cables, and both boots. The idea is based in using my NOS set as a template.

For now my intention is reproduce the spark plug and distributor boots which is going to include the red number one distributor cap boot.

The ultimate goal should be reproduce the wire too, with the original lettering as the factory did during the FL era.

Any interest to have this done? Made with cooper wires or Carbon fiber core? Any idea of how much could be an affordable price for everybody? Suggestions?

Denis


Edited by hemidenis 2018-12-17 7:59 PM
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56D500boy
Posted 2018-12-17 8:31 PM (#575404 - in reply to #575402)
Subject: RE: Original style Mopar spark plug cables reproduction.



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Different than these from the Mopar Mall guys?

https://www.moparmall.com/MoPar-1450091-1752311-Hemi-Spark-Plug-Wire...

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hemidenis
Posted 2018-12-17 9:42 PM (#575406 - in reply to #575402)
Subject: Re: Original style Mopar spark plug cables reproduction.



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Yes those are for Hemi, and the plug boots were ceramic. I have those NOS too, but I have no idea how much is the cost to reproduce ceramic.
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LD3 Greg
Posted 2018-12-17 9:54 PM (#575408 - in reply to #575404)
Subject: RE: Original style Mopar spark plug cables reproduction.


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56D500boy - 2018-12-17 8:31 PM

Different than these from the Mopar Mall guys?

https://www.moparmall.com/MoPar-1450091-1752311-Hemi-Spark-Plug-Wire...



Those look pretty good, Dave.
Do they have the Autolite/date code stamped wires?
It would be nice to get them with carbon fibre rather than metallic conductors.

Greg
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LD3 Greg
Posted 2018-12-17 10:00 PM (#575409 - in reply to #575406)
Subject: Re: Original style Mopar spark plug cables reproduction.


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hemidenis - 2018-12-17 9:42 PM

Yes those are for Hemi, and the plug boots were ceramic. I have those NOS too, but I have no idea how much is the cost to reproduce ceramic.


My experience with Hemi boots is limited but the only factory ceramic ones I recall seeing were marine!

Greg
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56D500boy
Posted 2018-12-17 10:38 PM (#575410 - in reply to #575409)
Subject: Re: Original style Mopar spark plug cables reproduction.



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LD3 Greg - 2018-12-17 10:00 PM

hemidenis - 2018-12-17 9:42 PM

Yes those are for Hemi, and the plug boots were ceramic. I have those NOS too, but I have no idea how much is the cost to reproduce ceramic.


My experience with Hemi boots is limited but the only factory ceramic ones I recall seeing were marine!

Greg


My local NOS guy (Ron W., the man of 100,000 Parts) showed me some OE NOS ceramic ones that he said were used on the original hemi's like his 270 in his 55 Custom Royal.

The Mopar Mall ones are plastic but they're fine. Not sure about any labeling on the wires. I am running them on my D500 engine and can check tomorrow (if I remember).



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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2018-12-18 12:23 AM (#575416 - in reply to #575410)
Subject: Re: Original style Mopar spark plug cables reproduction.



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Back when such things were possible, I found the porcelain (they are not "ceramic")
wire boot sets in Forward Look Hemi's in field and wrecking yards cars all the way to
1958 models, leading me to assume that these are the OEM type, and the plastic versions
were 1960's period replacement.

Most times the wire sets had the plastic ends, but by the 1970's, one might expect
few original wire sets to still be on cars. But it is entirely possible that some porcelain
boot sets remained in the parts system and installed later too.
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finsruskw
Posted 2018-12-18 8:11 AM (#575423 - in reply to #575402)
Subject: Re: Original style Mopar spark plug cables reproduction.



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I'd bet it will be really tough to beat that price, if indeed it is current.
I have never heard of that outfit before , but then again I have not been in the market for those parts.
However, I'd spring for a set for my Aztec Torquoise 300D if and when I ever (doubtful) get around to finishing it.
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hemidenis
Posted 2018-12-18 5:53 PM (#575455 - in reply to #575402)
Subject: Re: Original style Mopar spark plug cables reproduction.



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Doc is right,

They are Porcelain since they are denser and thus less porous than ceramic. This makes porcelain harder and more impervious to moisture than ceramic ... While both porcelain and ceramic are fired at high temperatures, porcelain is fired at even higher temperatures and for a longer time than ceramic. Porcelain had a wide use in the electric field, specially in high voltages lines.

By the way, I'm NOT looking to reproduce Hemi cables, they are not many HEMI cars around, besides someone is doing it already.
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2018-12-18 6:20 PM (#575458 - in reply to #575455)
Subject: Re: Original style Mopar spark plug cables reproduction.



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Hi, Denis:

I purchased a set from Atlas / MoPar Mall (pictured below).  What is the difference between this set and a NOS set?  Do you have images of the NOS for comparison?

 





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hemidenis
Posted 2018-12-19 10:05 PM (#575512 - in reply to #575402)
Subject: Re: Original style Mopar spark plug cables reproduction.



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Hi Mike, the picture is not very clear.

The cables has some markings and made by Auto-lite. My set is on the manufacturer, but seems like it is not interest in here, which I'm not surprised.

Now go an figure why they are not people manufacturing things for these cars and the one they do collect a fortune. We also have SMS, Laurie, Mitchell and so on, which are the worst of the worst, but i'm beginning to understand why.
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2018-12-19 10:20 PM (#575513 - in reply to #575512)
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Too early to tell, Denis!  There may be interest.  You have to let these things percolate a bit.  I thought when I bought from Atlas / MoPar Mall that I was buying a reproduction NOS set.  Maybe it is not that exact.  I would be interested in what the differences are and if there is a true reproduction, I think it might have a market (perhaps me)!

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LD3 Greg
Posted 2018-12-19 11:30 PM (#575520 - in reply to #575458)
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Lancer Mike - 2018-12-18 6:20 PM

Hi, Denis:

I purchased a set from Atlas / MoPar Mall (pictured below).  What is the difference between this set and a NOS set?  Do you have images of the NOS for comparison?

 



Mike. Your dist cap and plug boots are "sort of" close other than #1 dist cap should be red. What separates the men from the boys is the stamping on the wires. The originals had AUTOLITE and a date code stamped in a repetitive sequence.
As I recall, I did post pics of original cap and plug boots years ago.
The best person to talk to about the AUTOLITE stamping is Wayne G.

Greg
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christine-lover
Posted 2018-12-20 3:18 PM (#575557 - in reply to #575402)
Subject: Re: Original style Mopar spark plug cables reproduction.



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I took photos of these at Hershey this past October, on an original 1957 Fury. You can notice the date code with year 1957.

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Stroller
Posted 2018-12-23 1:39 PM (#575691 - in reply to #575402)
Subject: Re: Original style Mopar spark plug cables reproduction.


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Well my '56 354 Fire Power Hemi has the origianl distributor cap, rotor and plug wires. This thing only had 12K miles on it and after the over haul it runs I guess like it did back in '56, typical cold blooded mopar. The problem with mopar reproductions in parts is because of the low production numbers resulting supply and demand and return on investment. After all how many converting to HEI want the old wires unless masked to have new improvements? Something I always wished that then Direct Connection now Mopar Performance would make stock high temp plug ends that could stand temps of headers. I paid $140.00 for a set of Belden wires along time ago and the plug boots did not melt from the headers on my 440. Probaly cost $1,000.00 in todays money. I have a few original sets sitting around. As to finding any? Remember when a tune up ment plugs, cap, rotor, points and condensor and yep new wires?
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