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hemidenis
Posted 2019-01-21 4:22 PM (#577173)
Subject: Proof of why Disc brakes conversions should be mandatory



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As you can see in the video, every car in here has Disc brake conversions, or they could not drive in this heavy traffic. Drums are useless ha!





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mikes2nd
Posted 2019-01-21 4:28 PM (#577174 - in reply to #577173)
Subject: Re: Proof of why Disc brakes conversions should be mandatory


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yeah as long as no one can go over 10 mph, everyones safe!... your actually hurting your own sarcasm...

I mean start swapping out Ferrari brakes for drums... those dumb airplanes should switch to drums also! They are much better
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58coupe
Posted 2019-01-21 7:46 PM (#577180 - in reply to #577173)
Subject: Re: Proof of why Disc brakes conversions should be mandatory



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Hey watch what you criticize! My airplane has drum brakes! My 69 Charger had HD drum brakes 11x3 front 11x2 1/2 rear and it stopped just fine.
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imopar380
Posted 2019-01-21 9:40 PM (#577185 - in reply to #577180)
Subject: Re: Proof of why Disc brakes conversions should be mandatory



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When I was a kid, friends of my parents moved to SoCal for several years. They owned a 58 Buick and would regale me with tales of driving the SoCal freeways at 95 MPH in that car, this was now in the mid sixties. They still had the car until the early 70s.
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GregCon
Posted 2019-01-21 9:52 PM (#577186 - in reply to #577185)
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Drums work well, especially when they're in good shape and adjusted properly. Discs, for sure, are more modern in that they require far less attention.
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big m
Posted 2019-01-22 11:12 AM (#577223 - in reply to #577173)
Subject: Re: Proof of why Disc brakes conversions should be mandatory



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The main benefit to disc brakes is they do not fade after prolonged braking. In any normal driving situations, drum brakes work just fine if in good shape.
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mikes2nd
Posted 2019-01-22 12:43 PM (#577230 - in reply to #577173)
Subject: Re: Proof of why Disc brakes conversions should be mandatory


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lets not forget about performance please Yes if your only going for a cruise or to the store they do work fine enough for a while until they need adjusted/maintained.
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Powerflite
Posted 2019-01-22 1:32 PM (#577232 - in reply to #577173)
Subject: Re: Proof of why Disc brakes conversions should be mandatory



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Modern freeways with modern traffic clowns requires modern brakes. Most of the time, you would be fine with drums, but under certain conditions, you really aren't. LA traffic is one of those conditions. I have had far too many close calls to trust my car to front drums. I have driven my cars with drums for a while, but in the end, they just aren't quite adequate. On one occasion, I was driving the '58 Coronet 75mph in the fast lane on the 101 freeway with very little traffic, coming up over a hill. Once I got to the other side of the hill, I found that traffic was dead stopped. My 12" disc brakes in front & 12" drums out back stopped me with about 3 ft to spare. The car behind me had to swerve onto the shoulder to avoid hitting me. I am sure if I had the original drum brakes during that event, that my '58 Coronet wouldn't have fared very well. Some things are just not worth keeping unless you only drive your car in small town, low speed traffic, or slowly on the right side of the freeway. That's not how I like to drive.
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uncltank
Posted 2019-01-22 10:40 PM (#577252 - in reply to #577173)
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Are we really doing this again!!??
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2019-01-23 12:35 AM (#577254 - in reply to #577252)
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The best plan is to install one disc to the right front, and one to the left rear,
leaving the original drums on the opposing positions.
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mikes2nd
Posted 2019-01-23 10:11 AM (#577265 - in reply to #577173)
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. Yeah drum brakes are the future...





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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2019-01-23 10:26 AM (#577266 - in reply to #577265)
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Electric traction motors are the future. All this old car nonsense is
just that, NONSENSE. Go buy a Chevy Volt and get with "the future"
before it leaves you in the past !

And as long as we're "getting with it", let's all take a big bite of that
"sh!t sandwich" the world is telling us is so delicious too ! Gotta stay
hip and trendy. F@ck the past.
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Powerflite
Posted 2019-01-23 6:52 PM (#577294 - in reply to #577173)
Subject: Re: Proof of why Disc brakes conversions should be mandatory



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Chevy Volt is already outdated. A Chevy Bolt is more like what the future dictates.
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GregCon
Posted 2019-01-23 7:17 PM (#577295 - in reply to #577294)
Subject: Re: Proof of why Disc brakes conversions should be mandatory



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Even with discs, a FL car is not really able to handle modern traffic IMO.

A car with drum brakes has a wonderful pedal feel that is very tough to match with discs. That's due to the self-energizing aspect of drums.

All that said...discs win out in the end. But I find most people who rag on drums are under 35 years old and get their information from magazines rather than the real world.
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mikes2nd
Posted 2019-01-23 7:24 PM (#577296 - in reply to #577173)
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Hah you guys cant stop the hate on the Volt... I know Fox news attacked it daily but they are tanks.

Keep up the hate and the car isn't even made anymore, you need to "modernize" your biases

I would rock a Tesla though, much nicer ride. F@ck the future! Were talking about stupid outdated junk drum brakes...

I think you guys should rip out your bathrooms and go back to outhouses and coal fired stoves, we can get rid of electricity also... You can bring ice in your iceboxes...

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hemidenis
Posted 2019-01-23 8:11 PM (#577299 - in reply to #577173)
Subject: Re: Proof of why Disc brakes conversions should be mandatory



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Junk old carburetors, junk old brakes, junk old fuel, junk old cars, junk old torsion bars....Thanks God some of you guys are not in to junk old steam cars...
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mikes2nd
Posted 2019-01-23 9:08 PM (#577303 - in reply to #577173)
Subject: Re: Proof of why Disc brakes conversions should be mandatory


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its called "hasty generalizations" nice try now your trying to extrapolate a insult to brake drums to all old cars... slow down there Denis



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old mopar guy
Posted 2019-01-28 4:31 PM (#577523 - in reply to #577173)
Subject: Re: Proof of why Disc brakes conversions should be mandatory



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Drive normal! Leave room! and you will be fine! I drive in city traffic and stop fine! Just drive with the fact that the car is old in mind! Not a new Car!
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old mopar guy
Posted 2019-01-28 4:34 PM (#577524 - in reply to #577173)
Subject: Re: Proof of why Disc brakes conversions should be mandatory



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Pretty cool some guy driving a Ford A in that traffic!
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1960fury
Posted 2019-01-28 6:57 PM (#577525 - in reply to #577173)
Subject: Re: Proof of why Disc brakes conversions should be mandatory



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Yes, posted that vid 8 years ago and some others, meanwhile there is a complete version of that 60 Sonoramic power-clog video.

http://forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=34310&post...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54G4jidxmzw&t=85s

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mikes2nd
Posted 2019-01-28 7:38 PM (#577528 - in reply to #577523)
Subject: Re: Proof of why Disc brakes conversions should be mandatory


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old mopar guy - 2019-01-28 4:31 PM Drive normal! Leave room! and you will be fine! I drive in city traffic and stop fine! Just drive with the fact that the car is old in mind! Not a new Car!

 

Oh your going to leave a gap in between the car in front of you??? Well.let me just put my car in that space and then slam on my brakes! I'm winning!

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hemidenis
Posted 2019-01-28 7:41 PM (#577529 - in reply to #577173)
Subject: Re: Proof of why Disc brakes conversions should be mandatory



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I would go with a conversion if I can't fix my drums, or I purchase a car with the drums frozen..but it is still a hit or miss conversion. Too many things to replace, and none can guarantee the correct performance. Sorry, no deal dear disc brake guys...

Like Victor said, just keep the distance and drive accordingly. Some guys in here, I swear they are taking their cars to the Indy 500..
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1960fury
Posted 2019-01-28 7:57 PM (#577532 - in reply to #577173)
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As I said many times before, the OE brakes work well back then and today, maybe they stop even better than discs at slow and normal speeds, since they are self energized, but if you drive fast, disc are a must, not to mention the benefit of unsprung/rotating mass reduction.

I had to make a panik stop once in a 61 Desoto loaded with a 3 passengers and a full tank of gas and luggage driving 120 or 130 mph approaching a traffic jam behind a curve on the Autobahn (a Jaguar XK120 challenged us and we left it behind:). We made it but towards the end the brakes started to fade and you could smell them. I do not even mention the smaller brakes in my 60 Fury that is alot faster than the Desoto. If you want to enjoy all the horses ma Mopar gave you, discs are the way to go.

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Apollo 61
Posted 2019-01-29 12:12 AM (#577538 - in reply to #577532)
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I got this 62 300 that was still registered on the the road a few years ago. The brakes failed, not the drums but the single master cyl. Here is a pic of the results. (You will have to click on attachment )
I'm going to replace the stock brake drums with larger drums from a 63 300.
I want maintain a stock look with the original wheels and hubcaps.
its not the drums that worry me but single master cyls giving out.
What do guys think of just converting the master cyl to a dual and leaving the drums??



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mikes2nd
Posted 2019-01-29 1:12 AM (#577539 - in reply to #577173)
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Im sure they will go "nothing wrong with single!"... my grandpa used em and never died... this is a stupid discussion. I have seen people who had 50's cars white knuckled in traffic because people
drive nuts. Ditch the drums for a couple hundred and the master cylinder if you intend on driving the car in modern day traffic.

Single master cylinders are the best! I also like the not wear seatbelts and change out my dash with metal rusty spikes!



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hemidenis
Posted 2019-01-29 2:33 PM (#577568 - in reply to #577539)
Subject: Re: Proof of why Disc brakes conversions should be mandatory



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mikes2nd - 2019-01-29 1:12 AM

Im sure they will go "nothing wrong with single!"... my grandpa used em and never died... this is a stupid discussion. I have seen people who had 50's cars white knuckled in traffic because people
drive nuts. Ditch the drums for a couple hundred and the master cylinder if you intend on driving the car in modern day traffic.

Single master cylinders are the best! I also like the not wear seatbelts and change out my dash with metal rusty spikes!





Mike, what type of brakes do you have?
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Apollo 61
Posted 2019-01-29 7:52 PM (#577582 - in reply to #577539)
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Mike , Just got back from the scrapyard. Dragged this home me today. Couldn't let this get scrapped. Would make a good a dash pad for your ride. (Sarcasm) click on attachment

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ABloch
Posted 2019-01-29 9:33 PM (#577585 - in reply to #577173)
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While we're on the topic of conversions..... I'm thinking of installing side curtain airbags in the Newport. Anyone done this yet?

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mikes2nd
Posted 2019-01-29 11:25 PM (#577588 - in reply to #577173)
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I have scarebirds with a dual master...

Side curtain airbags are a b*tch, I will have front air bags in my 70 gto.

If you want side airbags go for the "in the seat" ones. They are stock in my 2004 caddy seats. I probably wont be hooking them up though

 

Side impact collisions have a higher chance at killing you but happen less often.

55% frontal vs 16% tbone deaths

 

https://www.iihs.org/iihs/topics/t/general-statistics/fatalityfacts/passenger-vehicles

 

 



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57burb
Posted 2019-01-30 3:20 PM (#577616 - in reply to #577588)
Subject: Re: Proof of why Disc brakes conversions should be mandatory



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Disk brakes don't equal 'safety', ya know?

Drums are fine if you keep them maintained well and don't drive like a lunatic. And even then.... ya just never know. Watch the crazy crash videos on youtube, you're never truly safe. Be careful out there!



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Powerflite
Posted 2019-01-30 4:14 PM (#577621 - in reply to #577173)
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What's this car in the video? A '46 Buick maybe? I really like the look of that one.



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57burb
Posted 2019-01-30 5:21 PM (#577623 - in reply to #577621)
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'46-48 Buick sedanette
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