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56D500boy
Posted 2019-03-22 9:58 PM (#579731)
Subject: Cast Iron A-466 TorqueFlite Strainers - any alternatives like a filter?



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I knew that the PowerFlites just had a strainer but I wasn't sure about the cast iron TorqueFlites until just now.

I see the pick-up/filter/strainer in the middle of this photo:



So I wonder what's on the other side. See below. Any alternatives?



Edited by 56D500boy 2019-03-22 10:01 PM




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58coupe
Posted 2019-03-22 10:16 PM (#579732 - in reply to #579731)
Subject: Re: Cast Iron A-466 TorqueFlite Strainers - any alternatives like a filter?



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since it has 2 pumps to feed, it would be difficult to adapt a filter but never say never.
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wizard
Posted 2019-03-23 5:40 AM (#579745 - in reply to #579731)
Subject: Re: Cast Iron A-466 TorqueFlite Strainers - any alternatives like a filter?



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If the cast iron hog is of the later type with oil cooler lines, the easiest would be to add an external filter, like the below for instance.

https://www.fruugo.se/atp-jx-150-universal-plastic-body-in-line-filt...

If it's the earlier air cooler type, then it's more of a challenge.
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56D500boy
Posted 2019-03-23 9:48 PM (#579794 - in reply to #579732)
Subject: Re: Cast Iron A-466 TorqueFlite Strainers - any alternatives like a filter?



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58coupe - 2019-03-22 7:16 PM

since it has 2 pumps to feed, it would be difficult to adapt a filter but never say never.


I had mine off this afternoon. I think that it could be done with two filters/pickups, one for each pump.
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56D500boy
Posted 2019-03-23 11:25 PM (#579799 - in reply to #579794)
Subject: Re: Cast Iron A-466 TorqueFlite Strainers - any alternatives like a filter?



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56D500boy - 2019-03-23 6:48 PM

58coupe - 2019-03-22 7:16 PM

since it has 2 pumps to feed, it would be difficult to adapt a filter but never say never.


I had mine off this afternoon. I think that it could be done with two filters/pickups, one for each pump.


Just purchased this pickup/screen to cut up and play with, i.e. try to fit filters to.

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57chizler
Posted 2019-03-24 5:41 PM (#579838 - in reply to #579731)
Subject: RE: Cast Iron A-466 TorqueFlite Strainers - any alternatives like a filter?



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The early 727 filter has two inlet holes to feed the two pumps.



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normsclassicradio
Posted 2019-03-25 3:39 PM (#579896 - in reply to #579731)
Subject: RE: Cast Iron A-466 TorqueFlite Strainers - any alternatives like a filter?



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BOY am I glad I follow these posts. I didn't think about the dual feed filter when I bought the deep pan kit. I'm going to to have to modify the spacer with an extra hole.



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jboymechanic
Posted 2019-03-25 5:23 PM (#579904 - in reply to #579896)
Subject: RE: Cast Iron A-466 TorqueFlite Strainers - any alternatives like a filter?



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I use and external, oil type filter spliced into line running up to my trans cooler.




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57chizler
Posted 2019-03-29 11:33 AM (#580063 - in reply to #579904)
Subject: RE: Cast Iron A-466 TorqueFlite Strainers - any alternatives like a filter?



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The external filter keeps the cooler clean but doesn't prevent the debris in the pan from getting sucked into the trans. The external filter is like a bypass filter on an engine, only part of the fluid flow goes through it.

In an ideal world, both an internal and external filter is the optimum.
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56D500boy
Posted 2019-10-22 9:21 PM (#589141 - in reply to #579799)
Subject: Re: Cast Iron A-466 TorqueFlite Strainers - any alternatives like a filter?



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Okay. Plan B. How do I thoroughly clean this cast iron strainer? I will start with soaking it in solvent but then? Needs some kind of brush or ??

The transmission shop got it this clean but they think that it still contains grit or whatnot that will hurt their rebuild success.



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wizard
Posted 2019-10-23 1:07 AM (#589148 - in reply to #579731)
Subject: Re: Cast Iron A-466 TorqueFlite Strainers - any alternatives like a filter?



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Submerge the strainer in white spirit and let it soak for a couple of days.Blow clean with compressed air.
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56D500boy
Posted 2019-10-23 1:35 AM (#589149 - in reply to #589148)
Subject: Re: Cast Iron A-466 TorqueFlite Strainers - any alternatives like a filter?



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wizard - 2019-10-22 10:07 PM
Submerge the strainer in white spirit and let it soak for a couple of days.Blow clean with compressed air.


Thanks Sven.

Just one thing. When I think Sweden a "white spirit", I think Akvavit straight out of the freezer.

I don't think that is what you mean. (??)

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wizard
Posted 2019-10-23 2:13 AM (#589150 - in reply to #579731)
Subject: Re: Cast Iron A-466 TorqueFlite Strainers - any alternatives like a filter?



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No Dave, you could have a shot of Akvavit while the strainer soaks though

I think white spirit is the correct name for chrystal oil?
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56D500boy
Posted 2019-10-23 11:16 PM (#589169 - in reply to #589150)
Subject: Re: Cast Iron A-466 TorqueFlite Strainers - any alternatives like a filter?



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wizard - 2019-10-22 11:13 PM

I think white spirit is the correct name for chrystal oil?


I think the closest we get is Mineral Spirits.

"White spirit (UK) or mineral spirits (US, Canada), also known as mineral turpentine (AU/NZ), turpentine substitute, petroleum spirits, solvent naphtha (petroleum), Varsol, Stoddard solvent, or, generically, "paint thinner", is a petroleum-derived clear liquid used as a common organic solvent in painting."

I decided on using "solvent". I used brake cleaner yesterday and that was an improvement. I will soak it in solvent over night and see if I can get a brush (or something) in there and either vacuum or compressed air.

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57chizler
Posted 2019-10-24 2:16 PM (#589188 - in reply to #589169)
Subject: Re: Cast Iron A-466 TorqueFlite Strainers - any alternatives like a filter?



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The best cleaner for carboned-up parts is Berryman.



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RICKYMOPAR
Posted 2019-10-26 5:51 PM (#589325 - in reply to #579731)
Subject: Re: Cast Iron A-466 TorqueFlite Strainers - any alternatives like a filter?



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Your screen does not look too bad. I installed cooling line filter kit and have had no problems. These are not the plastic cylinder with magnet, rubber tube install. These are
actually filters and come with new flair nuts and are like the 62 -65 kits. You will never need to change it again, unless you have some other type of failure. I even installed
these on my old Power Flites.

Post Script; have had less problems with the old 2 speed Power Flites than the 3 Speed A-466 Torque Flites. I see you have found out about the front pump problems
of the A-466. The 61 A-466 is the best but a 1 year wonder, different band and drum.

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56D500boy
Posted 2019-10-26 7:07 PM (#589329 - in reply to #589325)
Subject: Re: Cast Iron A-466 TorqueFlite Strainers - any alternatives like a filter?



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57chizler - 2019-10-24 11:16 AM
The best cleaner for carboned-up parts is Berryman.


I've never seen that up here Canuckitopia. I've now used Mopar Combustion Chamber Cleaner and it seems have done a lot of good.

RICKYMOPAR - 2019-10-26 2:51 PM

Your screen does not look too bad. I installed cooling line filter kit and have had no problems.

Post Script; have had less problems with the old 2 speed Power Flites than the 3 Speed A-466 Torque Flites. I see you have found out about the front pump problems
of the A-466. The 61 A-466 is the best but a 1 year wonder, different band and drum.


Richard: I would install a filter in the oil cooler line as you've suggested but the 57 Windsor I am working with is air-cooled with no cooling ports (yet) on the casing.

I saw that the 61 front drum band was different than the 57-60 bands but didn't know why.

I am supposedly getting one (and maybe) two front pumps early next week and they will be the "high flow" ones with the 0.82" thick rotors. So hopefully it all works.

I will continue to clean this filter over the weekend and then take it to the shop next week.

Thanks for you comments guys (everyone who responded).

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