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Mike McCandless |
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Expert Posts: 1886 | I bought this 60 Dodge convertible today. I saw the car in person 2 years ago. I know some of the cosmetic issues it has, but would love feedback from the forum on the rest of the car. What do I need to change in order make the car correct? I know the seats are wrong. I may end up with a big can of worms, but this car deserves work its way towards being correct. The other link is from when it was at RM, more pictures. Any help appreciated! https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1960-DODGE-DART... https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/fl18/fort-lauderdale/lots/r0279-1... Edited by Mike McCandless 2019-04-13 8:15 PM | ||
w.weiland |
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Expert Posts: 1492 Location: Lordstown, Ohio | if I recall correctly the dash is suppose to be a brownish black color. when we did my dads car, he choose not to go the correct dash color, along with the steering column suppose to be dash color look at sales brochures. the top frame is suppose to be black i think too Edited by w.weiland 2019-04-13 7:57 PM | ||
w.weiland |
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Expert Posts: 1492 Location: Lordstown, Ohio | umm its a phoenix | ||
Mike McCandless |
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Expert Posts: 1886 | LOL I typed Polara because I was using that search term for the steering wheel haha | ||
imopar380 |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7207 Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | Nice car Mike. The seats are sort of correct, just the shoddy looking Mylar inserts...... If you want to send all your cash to SMS Fabrics and forget about it for 3 years they can probably make up the correct seat covers. The Phoenix did have an all vinyl optional interior that looked like this. I think this interior is all ori (1160f.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 1160f.jpg (283KB - 182 downloads) | ||
Space Trukin Wagon |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 427 Location: Ohio | Looks to be a nice car, Mike with some good options. Whether or not original to the car equipped with the fender chrome spears, front bumper rubber pads, interior map light and revolving clock. The one item that don’t believe is correct is the steering wheel chrome horn center. Based on original 1960 horn centers seen or in the dealer brochures Believe that the correct color should be a light yellow “cream” or a brown but not the red. | ||
AceS |
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Veteran Posts: 281 Location: WA/USA | Very nice. Love the 500 emblem on the deck lid. | ||
mikes2nd |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 5006 | hah got to love the "turrent clock"... the brochure shows silver for air cleaner covers? now comes the great debate of what color the block and air cleaners should be. going to have to yank the engine? it looks black which is right?, maybe the paint is faded? here they say red blocks, cleaners and rams..
Silver headers? Edited by mikes2nd 2019-04-14 12:14 PM (s-l1000.jpg) (60.jpg) Attachments ---------------- s-l1000.jpg (34KB - 195 downloads) 60.jpg (173KB - 179 downloads) | ||
mikes2nd |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 5006 | I think i found a video on your car ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y00e93WVAzw | ||
mikes2nd |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 5006 | http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=68328&... engine bay... | ||
imopar380 |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7207 Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | Mike, this is an all original dash board on my (ex) 1960 (Canadian) Polara, which is now owned by a friend of mine. ( He added A/C to the car). The paint is a medium red metallic. I believe however that the Darts with a red interior came with a black dashboard. The Red interior cars normally would have the horn bar painted in a metallic brownish color. See the photo below. There were 2 different horn bars used for power steering equipped 1960 Dodges. Some had the words "Power Steering" embossed on either side of the center emblem, and some had it inside the emblem. I've seen both types on Polara/Matadors and both types on the Darts. Edited by imopar380 2019-04-14 10:14 PM (DSC01168.jpg) (Steeringwheel.jpg) Attachments ---------------- DSC01168.jpg (161KB - 191 downloads) Steeringwheel.jpg (29KB - 179 downloads) | ||
mikes2nd |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 5006 | yeah that looks a lot better... as opposed to the "spray it all with a firehose red!" method of the car currently | ||
Space Trukin Wagon |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 427 Location: Ohio | Space Trukin Wagon - 2019-04-14 3:13 The one item that don’t believe is correct is the steering wheel chrome horn center. Based on original 1960 horn centers seen or in the dealer brochures Believe that the correct color should be a light yellow “cream” or a brown but not the red. The info & photos that Ian provided is what I was trying to explain in this previous response. I have an original chrome center painted with the other light yellow “off-white cream” color and will dig it out to post a photo. As a note this wheel is NON power steering which may explain the different colors, brown or off-white cream. Was the difference dependent on the model or option ?? | ||
imopar380 |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7207 Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | Space Trukin Wagon - 2019-04-15 11:39 AM Space Trukin Wagon - 2019-04-14 3:13 The one item that don’t believe is correct is the steering wheel chrome horn center. Based on original 1960 horn centers seen or in the dealer brochures Believe that the correct color should be a light yellow “cream” or a brown but not the red. The info & photos that Ian provided is what I was trying to explain in this previous response. I have an original chrome center painted with the other light yellow “off-white cream” color and will dig it out to post a photo. As a note this wheel is NON power steering which may explain the different colors, brown or off-white cream. Was the difference dependent on the model or option ?? Which wheel do you mean when you say it is a non power steering wheel? The one in my ex has " power steering" embossed on the bar, on either side of the emblem, while the convertible referred to has "Power Steering" inside the emblem if you look close. That's what I meant when I said there were 2 types of bars. | ||
Space Trukin Wagon |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 427 Location: Ohio | imopar380 - 2019-04-15 3:23 PM Space Trukin Wagon - 2019-04-15 11:39 AM Space Trukin Wagon - 2019-04-14 3:13 The one item that don’t believe is correct is the steering wheel chrome horn center. Based on original 1960 horn centers seen or in the dealer brochures Believe that the correct color should be a light yellow “cream” or a brown but not the red. The info & photos that Ian provided is what I was trying to explain in this previous response. I have an original chrome center painted with the other light yellow “off-white cream” color and will dig it out to post a photo. As a note this wheel is NON power steering which may explain the different colors, brown or off-white cream. Was the difference dependent on the model or option ?? Which wheel do you mean when you say it is a non power steering wheel? The one in my ex has " power steering" embossed on the bar, on either side of the emblem, while the convertible referred to has "Power Steering" inside the emblem if you look close. That's what I meant when I said there were 2 types of bars. Maybe it wasn't clear in my second reply but the statement to NON power steering was not a reference to photos that you posted. And, yes agree there are two different version of "power steering" - Either embossed or printed on the center emblem. The note about NON power steering was referring to the horn center stated in that reply that I have with a light yellow "off-white cream" painted center. SEE Attached photo of that center. It has no embossed wording for power steering on the horn bar and a plain center emblem - So NO reference to power steering at all. Edited by Space Trukin Wagon 2019-04-16 2:30 PM (60 horn- NO_PS-2.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 60 horn- NO_PS-2.jpg (66KB - 192 downloads) | ||
Space Trukin Wagon |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 427 Location: Ohio | To add to the confusion I found this auction posted on ebay showing a 60 horn center with the same "off-white cream" painted center but WITH the words power steering embossed into the horn bar. SEE Attached photo Also, here's the link to the auction in case anyone wants to check out additional photos / details: https://www.ebay.com/itm/1960-Dodge-Dart-Polara-Steering-Wheel-Horn-... If anything it rules out that it was related to the power steering option and more likely that the model or trim line dictated what color the center horn bar was painted. Edited by Space Trukin Wagon 2019-04-16 2:26 PM (60 horn w-PS-3 (2).jpg) (60 horn w-PS-2.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 60 horn w-PS-3 (2).jpg (461KB - 185 downloads) 60 horn w-PS-2.jpg (398KB - 181 downloads) | ||
imopar380 |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7207 Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | And this is the example of the wheel with "Power Steering" in the center of the emblem. (Steeringwheel.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Steeringwheel.jpg (198KB - 177 downloads) | ||
Mike McCandless |
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Expert Posts: 1886 | Well, someone else wanted it more than I. Just sold the car before it arrived. | ||
mikes2nd |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 5006 | well problem solved | ||
Mike McCandless |
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Expert Posts: 1886 | Problem not solved, people tell me they're good for their word and then they aren't :). It happens. I finally got to see the car today. Looks like it was originally a cloud color. PNT LL1 TRM 164 Body 535 1001 0638 So number D3 F2 L4 T3 Will try and get it up on the lift in the next week or so and see what's happening underneath | ||
mikes2nd |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 5006 | You can just give it to me if it becomes too big of a problem:) | ||
1959Dodge |
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Expert Posts: 2244 Location: Yorba Linda, Ca | Here is Aivar's 60 Phoenix as shown on "My Classic Car" Aivar has since sold the car to a Swede who is supposed to open a ''Car Museum" in Searchlight Florida. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7uNRxIkwXM&list=PLmq9f1Wk48zwXwYkZQ... Gary | ||
Mike McCandless |
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Expert Posts: 1886 | That's correct, now it's at my place. Going to go to work on the paint his weekend and see how much it cleans up. | ||
mikes2nd |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 5006 | Mike are your Swedish? and your moving to Searchlight Florida? | ||
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