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Posted 2019-04-28 10:46 PM (#581472)
Subject: 241 Hemi


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Before I make a decision,I need the actual or close value of a 241 Hemi. I don't need it but if worth the effort I will buy and re sell it to someone that has a use for it.The motor was running when removed,58 K original miles and stored indoors for the last 5 yrs.It is not locked up,100% complete includes bell housing and converter.

Also,as stated above yes I intend to flip it as some would say.The fellow that has it has no need for it,if I give him what he wants I have no need but there is someone somewhere that probably does have use for it.So much for that.




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Posted 2019-11-16 12:03 AM (#590188 - in reply to #581472)
Subject: RE: 241 Hemi


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Still looking for an answer !


62 413 - 2019-04-28 10:46 PM



Before I make a decision,I need the actual or close value of a 241 Hemi. I don't need it but if worth the effort I will buy and re sell it to someone that has a use for it.The motor was running when removed,58 K original miles and stored indoors for the last 5 yrs.It is not locked up,100% complete includes bell housing and converter.

Also,as stated above yes I intend to flip it as some would say.The fellow that has it has no need for it,if I give him what he wants I have no need but there is someone somewhere that probably does have use for it.So much for that.



Edited by 62 413 2019-11-16 12:06 AM
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56D500boy
Posted 2019-11-16 2:20 AM (#590191 - in reply to #581472)
Subject: RE: 241 Hemi



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Not sure what it is worth but I think the issue is that it isn't going to be very easy to hot rod it at this point in time. When the 241 Red Ram Dodge hemi was introduced in 1953 it was only 7.0 to 1 compression and 140 hp. That would be good(ish) for a 32 Ford roadster or a 35 Plymouth sedan but 140 is pretty low. There was a 4 bbl manifold and carb used on the 1954 241 which was used as the 54 Indy pace car. That would help.

The other downside (I think) is the bell housing was cast with the engine, not a separate piece as with the later 55 and up hemis. That makes transmission options much more limited.

So the market is going to be thin. I might guess ask $1000 on the H.A.M.B. website and see what happens.

https://www.allpar.com/mopar/hemi/oldhemi.html

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58coupe
Posted 2019-11-16 12:51 PM (#590209 - in reply to #581472)
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Dave, you are mistaken about one thing. The 241 Dodge hemi does not have an extended bell housing. The only hemi built that way was the 51-54 Chrysler.
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Posted 2019-11-16 1:04 PM (#590210 - in reply to #590209)
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58coupe - 2019-11-16 9:51 AM
Dave, you are mistaken about one thing. The 241 Dodge hemi does not have an extended bell housing. The only hemi built that way was the 51-54 Chrysler.


Thanks. Happy to be wrong on this one. I was suckered by the factory brochure colours (engine and trans both in the same colour) but mostly this photo which seemed to show the block and bell-housing as one piece. Oh well. I was wrong. Now I know something that I didn't before.





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Posted 2019-11-16 9:33 PM (#590248 - in reply to #581472)
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Rolland, you mean '51-'53 Chrysler. 1954 still used a wet intake, but the block wasn't extended.
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Posted 2019-11-16 9:37 PM (#590249 - in reply to #581472)
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The answer to the original question is that most of the motor is near worthless except to some rodder or to a '53-'54 Dodge owner that wanted to keep his car original. But the heads, rockers, valve covers, tubes, exhaust manifolds, push rods etc that can be used to convert a 270, 315, or 325 to hemi are valuable and worth saving or selling. If you would like to increase the compression, a cheap way to do it *might* be to bolt some Dodge poly heads to it and see how it performs. Just make sure the valves clear first. But poly heads should increase your compression nicely.

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jboymechanic
Posted 2019-11-16 10:23 PM (#590256 - in reply to #581472)
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These motors, with their low compression and quality of construction, are great candidates for turbo or super charging. Would love to build a plymouth or dodge hot rod some day with one of these motors with a turbo setup.
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Posted 2019-11-16 10:34 PM (#590258 - in reply to #581472)
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Nathan, you are correct, I should have said 51-53 Chrysler. You could use the hemi parts to make a 259 or 270 hemi but the 315 or 325 would need bigger valves unless you just want the "look" and are not trying to make much horsepower.
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Posted 2019-11-16 11:01 PM (#590259 - in reply to #581472)
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Bigger valves, yes, but you can swap them into the 241 heads. It's more work, but it works.
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Posted 2019-11-18 10:02 AM (#590325 - in reply to #581472)
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Turbo idea is interesting, but weren't these early Dodge "hemis" well known for breaking cranks?
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Posted 2019-11-18 10:30 AM (#590327 - in reply to #581472)
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If you up the power like that, install a harmonic dampener on it.
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Posted 2019-11-18 4:41 PM (#590346 - in reply to #581472)
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I wouldn't go nuts with forced induction, I would think that 5 to 7 psi would really wake these little motors up without putting too much stress on the bottom end.
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Posted 2019-11-18 5:53 PM (#590350 - in reply to #590325)
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firedome - 2019-11-18 9:02 AM

Turbo idea is interesting, but weren't these early Dodge "hemis" well known for breaking cranks?
Yup! Not having a damper didn't help either. I'll guess about $800 or so for a rebuildable core. One 241 measured out with a 6.19 C/R.
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