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Posted 2019-05-23 10:58 AM (#582454)
Subject: 1957 Plymouth headliner questions


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The three boards that make up the headliner of a 1957 Plymouth look to be held in channels that are held to the inside of the roof, looks like they’re connected to the roof front/rear. Is this correct? Mine boards are sagging significantly, have come out of the channels and no longer have whatever trim/cover was facing the passenger compartment. Are the channels the only thing that hold the boards up? What’s being used to replace the outer (facing passengers) trim piece?
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Finsinthemirror
Posted 2019-05-23 6:40 PM (#582465 - in reply to #582454)
Subject: Re: 1957 Plymouth headliner questions



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I believe there is padding glued to the roof skin and the boards were glued to that then held in my the inner interior garnish moldings and retainer strips that run between the 3 boards.
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Posted 2019-05-24 12:03 AM (#582474 - in reply to #582465)
Subject: Re: 1957 Plymouth headliner questions


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Thanks for the information. Are the inner garnish moldings reproduced? Do those garnish moldings just clip to the retainer strips?
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Finsinthemirror
Posted 2019-05-24 1:38 AM (#582477 - in reply to #582474)
Subject: Re: 1957 Plymouth headliner questions



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What I call the "garnish moldings" run the length of the interior roof line and around the windows, they are stamped steel and painted white on the Belvedere except the front windshield. What I call the retainer strips are the chrome-ish plastic strips that snap into the long metal strips that separate the headliner panel boards and have small end caps at each end per strip. I hope that's better maybe?
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ronbo97
Posted 2019-05-24 10:26 AM (#582489 - in reply to #582477)
Subject: Re: 1957 Plymouth headliner questions


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I believe what wheelcover is referring to are the plastic strips that separate one cardboard piece from another. Originally, they were clear plastic with a silvery coating inside. These clipped to the thin metal strips to retain the cardboard pieces. A some point they were made available in white plastic and were used for 70s and 80s Dodge vans, IIRC.

The cardboard was not glued to the roof. If yours are sagging and have 'set' in a sagged position, they can be reinforced from behind with some kind of stiff material glued in place. 

Ron

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Finsinthemirror
Posted 2019-05-25 2:21 PM (#582515 - in reply to #582489)
Subject: Re: 1957 Plymouth headliner questions



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Hmm.. I've taken down 2 of them and I always thought they were glued to an extent? There was a black hard substance on both sides of whatever the material is that the insulation is made of.. I figured it was an adhesive of some sort since it was on both sides..
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Posted 2019-05-25 6:34 PM (#582520 - in reply to #582454)
Subject: Re: 1957 Plymouth headliner questions



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Headliner Retainer Strips
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bird
Posted 2019-06-02 10:44 PM (#582853 - in reply to #582454)
Subject: RE: 1957 Plymouth headliner questions


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On my one previous owner 57 sport suburban my fiber board panels sagged and then fell away from the roof. Under them was a thin pad of insulation that was glued to the roof. There are metal channel bars running from one side of the roof to the other. The panels fit between these and a silver colored plastic trim band pressed over the metal channel and holds the fiber panels in place. I saved all of my sagging fiber panels but after years of searching I found only one guy in Minnesota who who had replacement plastic strips. Unfortunately he wanted $100.00 dollars each and I believe all told I needed 5. We tried gluing the panels , taping them using a thin veneer piece of wood paneling etc. to no avail. My buddy fashioned some metal ones pre bent them then reinstalled the original panels. Getting the sag out of them was hell after sitting for 50 years hanging low. Not sure how he unsaved them. Looks OK in pictures but I haven't seen it up close. If I had not had the original fiber panels I would have just had it done as a normal headliner is installed. Such a hassle. I hope it looks good in person and holds up. I'll send photos and can get build details from my guy if need be.

Edited by bird 2019-06-02 10:52 PM
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mikes2nd
Posted 2019-06-02 10:53 PM (#582854 - in reply to #582454)
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don't ever buy from the Minnesota guy... its just glued on perforated vinyl... you can do this easily...
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bird
Posted 2019-06-02 11:03 PM (#582855 - in reply to #582854)
Subject: Re: 1957 Plymouth headliner questions


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He was not a pleasant person when I spoke to him a few years ago.
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