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The Chemist
Posted 2019-05-31 2:51 AM (#582745)
Subject: 1957 DeSoto Firedome - mild custom


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Hi everybody,
my name is Guido and I'm from Italy.
basically I am an American vehicles enthusiast and generally I consider myself a bit a petrolhead.
I'm a Ford fan (and owner), Harley-Davidson super fan (and owner) and this year for my 40th birthday I decided to get a nice gift for myself.
so after several months of research, I felt in love with a '57 Firedome, a 2 door hardtop made mild custom and on a style very similar to Larry Watson's cars.
I bought and took it to my mancave last february.
Some pictures are here below, on a web album I am keeping updated

https://photos.app.goo.gl/PaKweGxaY5JwPt9JA

This Firedome is quite famous in European custom scene, built in 1957 it arrived in U.K. in 1963/64 and the last UK owner was a "hot-rodder" who made it in this custom style, in the late 90's. it arrived in Italy in 2010 and I am the 3rd owner here.

It is equipped with its 341 cu.i. V8 Hemi, torqueflite 3 speed transmission with pushbutton system. Engine is still running well but it feels like "tired". I found a smart guy expert in american cars, he owns a garage not far from where I live, so the Firedome is already there to improve some things and to fix some others.

I fully respect the history of the car and the job done by Johnny Best in UK, but honestly it has not been kept as I would have kept it in the years. so I am trying to bring it to a better level. I already made arrive from the U.S. new full carpet floor, all new weatherstrips and rubbers, new tyres. the garage owner is working on it, new brakes pipes, a big check to the engine, rebuilding the interior part of the seats, additional cooling system for the transmission and some other.

there is a nice job to do even in future. but this summer I want to use it with my family, wife, small boy to make some trips to the lake.

I hope you like the car.

I'll probably come in future to ask things to you experts. to find spare parts etc.

 



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wizard
Posted 2019-05-31 3:08 AM (#582746 - in reply to #582745)
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Welcome Guido, you came to the right Place for the FL-cars. Here's a welth of nowledge and the guys are willingly sharing it.

That's a classic custom style and very period correct.


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57desoto
Posted 2019-05-31 6:39 AM (#582747 - in reply to #582745)
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Hello, Guido. I knew that the Storrie/Best car went to Italy, but I didn't know that you were the lucky new owner, so thank you for introducing yourself. If I can help in any way, you can use this forum or contact me directly. I'm the 1957 tech advisor for the National DeSoto Club, and always willing to help out a '57 owner.
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Posted 2019-05-31 10:34 AM (#582750 - in reply to #582745)
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This is a very tasteful, great looking mild custom DeSoto. Hope you are very happy with the experience.
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The Chemist
Posted 2019-05-31 10:34 AM (#582751 - in reply to #582745)
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thanks for your asnwers and for the welcome here.
basically the first spare part that I would like to keep at home is the transmission shift cable. on ebay I found only one but it seems to me in bad conditions.
I found a new one on moparmall website (I guess, if I remember correctly) but I don't know if this cable is the "push-in" or the "screw-in".
do you know this? even if it's quite expensive, I wouild take it.

at this time I hope engine and transmission will last for some more years without big troubles. same for the body, without rust or paint problems.
I know I will have to consider maybe bigger works on the car for the future, but if it will be a bit later, it's better.

despite the full respect to the history of this car and to the johnny best's job, I am afraid in case of big rust or other bad cases I could consder to change totally the colours of the car.
I mean I really like the current style and paint but I also love some different colours schemes of the custom 50's cars.....but this is too early to speak about it.

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wizard
Posted 2019-05-31 10:49 AM (#582754 - in reply to #582745)
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As for the cast iron hog (TorqueFlite-transmission), if it's got oil cooler lines to the radiator, then install an extra oil cooler in serie with the one in the radiator.

You should change the transmission fluid and add one bottle of Omega 917 seal saver to the new fluid.

Check the gearshift cable adjustment while the oil pan is removed and adjust the bands.

Check the throttle valve linkage and adjustment.

The TorqueFlite transfer is next to bullet proof if it's been maintained correctly.
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jboymechanic
Posted 2019-05-31 3:41 PM (#582763 - in reply to #582745)
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Love the car Guido, thanks for sharing. The shift cables on MoparMall are expensive, but they are very nice quality.
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The Chemist
Posted 2019-06-03 8:16 AM (#582863 - in reply to #582754)
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thanks. I'm taking notes on your suggestions.
do you know if the shift cable is screw type or push-in type?

all fluids in the car will be replaced with new ones.
last saturday they removed all the old carpet flooring; the seats are already in progress to be almost restored.
next days new rear tyres will be installed plus balancing and camber checking.
it seems in june I will not be able to use it, but some jobs were needed.
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jboymechanic
Posted 2019-06-03 9:30 AM (#582866 - in reply to #582745)
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They have both push in and screw in, you have to specify when you order. I thought screw in came later, 1959 and after?
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1960fury
Posted 2019-06-03 10:11 AM (#582867 - in reply to #582745)
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Can't say I'm a big fan of the paint job, but, welcome. I have a 1980s magazine article about a 1960 Plymouth in the UK and there is a 57 Desoto in the background in a couple of shots. I was told this is the 57 before Johnny Best customized it. IIRC it was white.
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57burb
Posted 2019-06-03 10:19 AM (#582868 - in reply to #582867)
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Beautiful car, welcome to the site!
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The Chemist
Posted 2019-06-04 2:44 AM (#582906 - in reply to #582867)
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before johnny best bought it, it was pink and white, he said to me.
he also sent me pictures

the original colour from the production was instead yellow/white, as still appears on the original tag on the car.



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ToMopar
Posted 2019-06-04 6:18 AM (#582912 - in reply to #582745)
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Hello Guido,

welcome here. The car is well known, but I don't see it in person.
Where are you located (in Italy)?
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The Chemist
Posted 2019-06-05 3:06 AM (#582948 - in reply to #582912)
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Hi, yes I'm from Italy, north, 40-50 km east from Milan city.

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The Chemist
Posted 2019-06-05 3:23 AM (#582950 - in reply to #582745)
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current status of the car is like this
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/6bLwcJp7ui6F1-JvZcqDULjB8kodSxDwyo...

all old flooring has been removed. it was very wet on the rear side. the interior padding of the seats were really old and damaged, so we decided to fully fix them now, instead of next winter. I also discovered that the nice white vynil was installed over the old interior of the car. and unfortunately the '57 seat covering started to make some mould. the vynil can be saved, but at this point I also decided to remove and change all the flooring, as I already bougth last month a new one, black coloured. this job is making delaying other things and probably I'll not be able to go to the lake with the firedome until july. when interiors will be put back in the car, an hygienic new treatment will be done.


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Posted 2019-06-05 12:15 PM (#582960 - in reply to #582745)
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Welcome to the Forum Guido ..
Good to see the Desoto being cared for, as it was well known of here in the UK,, I actually almost bought it the last time it was for sale in the UK,, But didnt jump on it in time, Thats when it was Sold and shipped to Italy...


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57burb
Posted 2019-06-05 12:30 PM (#582961 - in reply to #582950)
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It sounds like the old girl needs some attention, like they all do. I'm sure you'll get the interior looking fantastic again, and then freshen up the drivetrain for many years of cruising. It's an awesome car and deserving of the work!
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The Chemist
Posted 2019-06-07 8:05 AM (#583058 - in reply to #582745)
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in really short time, the interior has been fixed.
new flooring (black coloured this time), additional parts black with gold borders for the feet areas, all seats paddings made new, big cleaning treatment.
when I took the car at home, seats were almost grey; I spent a full day cleaning and they were "almost white".
now they are really back white.
it will cost me additional money in this moment, but..... no pain-no gain this time.
pics here:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/aePUGJxhBvDLgJwRhw2xBJAIpgHkV4gjPW...
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/TG8kCAbs1l42Q7ggISPfhWIOTrQQXWVZwt...
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/nvQeafwXN1_I2wBWJy4DK19f_fWYgsTo8o...

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The Chemist
Posted 2019-09-02 11:11 AM (#586931 - in reply to #582745)
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as update, I took back home the Firedome only at the end of july. I did not have so many times to dirve it around, but with the gear fixed, all new oils and other fluids, with the new interiors, the car is much more nice and it runs quite well. it is also much better to drive it, with new rear tyres, new brakes hoses, camber and other wheels things fixed.
unfortunately it is anyway coming the moment when the engine must be taken out from the car, to be well checked and fixed. I was thinking to postpone this moment but it seems the car has not been maintained in the best conditions during the years.
I will drive it as much as I can, maybe use it for a friend's wedding and i will take it to a couple of exhibitions/shows. before the end of the year I'll take it again to the garage and we will start the works on the engine. it will be dangerous for the bank account.....and for the wife who will complain a bit, I guess.
just a couple of last pictures from the last sunday shower
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/5AcAky-l9nX8SAW5ewq_Wj9FEWn7JvlmMz...

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/CO7_u-lIcLrtOPMSDZ5RJMgJoA0RNchVER...
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57burb
Posted 2019-09-02 1:08 PM (#586938 - in reply to #586931)
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Absolutely beautiful!

Rebuilding a Hemi is never cheap. But it will be very satisfying!
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Posted 2019-09-02 3:05 PM (#586942 - in reply to #586931)
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Interesting taillights. Sort of like 57 Chrysler taillights over the 57 Desoto taillight base. Probably made from red lexan/perspex formed over a custom mold?

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The Chemist
Posted 2019-09-06 2:17 AM (#587142 - in reply to #586942)
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I can't give you a good answer unfortunately.
these taillights covers have been made by Johnny Best, the man who customized this Desoto in UK several years ago.
they are basically a unique piece and I could not get more info about how they have been made.

I just hope they will not get broken, never.
or it would be a big problem to fix them or build them new.
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The Chemist
Posted 2019-10-01 6:21 AM (#588230 - in reply to #582745)
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so, 10 days ago there was a custom-chopper-cars show near my town. the Firedome was there, also registered for the "best US car" prize (not won).
anyway the car had a big success with many people coming to see it and asking details and other things.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/KGf1vM0Sm1iB6-0rZJxj5zHQkn2i6JGSXc...
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/JxfCWZ9OEQbiJIiz24F1QLTG1kPRIkjt7b...

there will be a friend's wedding in 10 days and another car show in 20 days. then I'll decide when bring the car to the garage again and next winter there will be some work to do on the engine.
I am still really unsure to immediately fix well even the body, including a colour change.
nothing to say on this colours scheme, I bought it like this because I really like it.
but sometimes it feels like it is not "my project". I would prefer it still with the custom style, but with main colour green or even better some blue-light blue or similar.
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BigBlockMopar
Posted 2019-10-01 4:16 PM (#588259 - in reply to #582745)
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Those taillight lenses shouldn't be too hard to replicate. They appear rather simple in design.

As for a colorchange, I get the 'feeling' it's not your project, just a 'bought' one.
It's not easy to get a custom-car looking 'just right'. But it is very easy to ruin it's look.
But if you might think of purple as a color, I will trade you my '57 Chrysler :D :D
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57burb
Posted 2019-10-01 5:01 PM (#588262 - in reply to #588230)
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When I read that you might consider a color change, I was reminded of a color combination that I thought looked really good on Ed Roth's Outlaw. A pearlescent white with a silver design and fogged in turquoise around each element and pinstripes to set them off. Might look good on your Desoto too.

just a thought

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1960fury
Posted 2019-10-02 5:31 AM (#588296 - in reply to #582745)
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To each their own but IMO that kustom paint and mods are ****ugly. Just a terrible "Watson style" car. The paint distracts from its once clean lines and is garrish and the tailight treatment, etc really uglifies a great design. If you see a stock 57 and if you are into 50s cars/design, there is no doubt which one looks better by far. Restore it back to stock, please. And those whitewalls are much too wide.

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firedome
Posted 2019-10-02 9:23 AM (#588298 - in reply to #582745)
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Welcome! it seems the car has a caring owner! But agree 100% with Sid: the original lower side sweep trim was probably the most beautiful shape ever put onto the side of a car... at the very least putting that back on would add to the beauty of the overall design, as opposed to that boring straight trim piece presently on there, and it also provides for a color contrasting area for the typical (and aweome) 2-tone paint designs almost always used then. That's my 2 cents, will be interested to see how it evolves.

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The Chemist
Posted 2019-10-04 11:22 AM (#588390 - in reply to #582745)
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thanks everybody. even for the honest comments about the colour.
I agree with the statement that 57 original Firedome already had a wonderful shape and colour schemes.
this car was born from the factory in the original "sunlit yellow" and white, confirmed by the car tag and by the production document I've been able to get from detroit (FCA chrysler heritage).
just in case I would want to bring the car back to its original shape, frankly speaking that yellow is too weak for me, too light. Yellow is actually my favourite colour, I had 2 harleys yellow, I daily drive a yellow Ford, first bikes and mopeds were yellow......but I really don't like the "sunlit yellow" of the 57 DeSoto.
I have bought the patterns of Desoto colours for the year 1957, there are much more nice colours within them, like the "Azure Blue " (for the firedome) or "seatone blue" and "lagoon blue" (for the firesweep).
anyway up today I really like the custom changes existing on this car, including the current colours. a complete colours change is my last idea, it would be much more easy to keep it well, fixing the body defects and eventually re-paint in these shades. I still don't know, really.

I also always appreciate and get crazy for old cars with colours like these
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7e/cf/1e/7ecf1e94be2e093ba21cff6d1c70...
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8393/8645945823_81b62304cd_b.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/4Mpyp7K/AAAA.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/rpSj3Th/VERDE-ORO-Tiago-ranchero-clone-01-602x375.j...

but it is not so sure that all these shades are nice on my firedome.
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ToMopar
Posted 2019-10-04 12:13 PM (#588391 - in reply to #582745)
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wow, "sunlit yellow"
I agree, darker colors are much better for those cars, but I like my "sunlit yellow" anyway
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1960fury
Posted 2019-10-04 1:38 PM (#588396 - in reply to #588391)
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ToMopar - 2019-10-04 12:13 PM


I agree, darker colors are much better for those cars, but I like my "sunlit yellow" anyway


Well... NO. These cars were born for light pastel or "pale" colors. This is typical 50s, just like these cars. Look at the postcard thread,
the parking lots, back in a time when people still had style and taste, you will see an ocean of pastel colors.
Strong colors were popular before (mainly black, which looks okay on a FL especially together with a pastel color) came back in the 60s and stayed til today,
but the 50s were unique.
I can hardly think of a color more unfittingly than a strong yellow, only second to grass green, typical 70s strong garish colors.

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ToMopar
Posted 2019-10-08 12:18 PM (#588572 - in reply to #582745)
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Who is talking about strong yellow?
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