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Fury 58
Posted 2019-06-29 9:03 PM (#584238)
Subject: 58 Fury 451 Wedge Cooling


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I'm sure this has been covered before. I have a 451 Wedge with a 62 727 TF trans in my 58 Fury. Need additional cooling. I already had the 22" radiator rebuilt with a triple core.

QUESTION: What 7-Blade Fan and Fan Clutch would you recommend? I'd like it to look like a MoPar set up. Black (non flex) Fan.

Thanks;

LJB
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jboymechanic
Posted 2019-06-29 10:05 PM (#584240 - in reply to #584238)
Subject: Re: 58 Fury 451 Wedge Cooling



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Do you have a shroud? That wound ensure your fan's air movement is maximized instead of wasted HP. Are you running a thermostat? What temp?
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mstrug
Posted 2019-06-30 5:42 AM (#584245 - in reply to #584238)
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https://www.speedwaymotors.com/the-toolbox/fan-shrouds-a-critical-co...

Judging from the calculations above, you can see that without a shroud directing the airflow across the entire radiator, you are effectively not using 44% of your radiator. By simply adding the proper size shroud behind your radiator, you'll ensure that 100% of the radiator's surface area is used to cool your engine.

http://www.griffinrad.com/tips.cfm


1. Thou shall make room for an adequate cooling system in the design of your engine compartment.
First things first. When planning your performance vehicle, remember that you're building it to drive, not to sit and steam. Plan adequate space for the cooling system including the radiator, fan, shroud, over flow tank and mounting brackets. Talk with a cooling specialist to help you size the system for your vehicle, engine and driving habits. Consider the investment compared to the total cost of the car.

2. Thou shall shroud thy radiator when using a fan.
Fans move air through the radiator assisting in cooling the engine. A fan without a shroud is better than no fan. But, consider this. At idle or cruising speeds, you need the entire cooling system working at its optimum. An unshrouded fan is moving air through only the portion of the radiator equal to the surface area of the fan. For example, on a '32 Ford, the area of a 15.50" fan is about 189 sq. in.; the core of the radiator is approximately 371 sq. in. This means that almost 49% of the unshrouded radiator is not receiving any benefits of the fan. Shrouding your radiator lets the fan pull air through the entire core...


https://www.summitracing.com/search/part-type/fan-shrouds?ibanner=SR...

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Fury 58
Posted 2019-06-30 7:18 AM (#584246 - in reply to #584238)
Subject: Re: 58 Fury 451 Wedge Cooling


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Fine. Sold.

Now, what 7-blade fan and clutch would fit what, in essence, is a stock 1958 Plymouth 350 Golden Commando cooling system?

160 thermostat at present. But that could go up to 180 with a proper sorted cooling system.

And what shroud would fit?

Edited by Fury 58 2019-06-30 7:20 AM
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Powerflite
Posted 2019-06-30 9:48 AM (#584249 - in reply to #584238)
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I have heard that a '63-'64 Chrysler shroud will fit onto the older radiators. You can purchase them new, but I haven't tried it. The later cars used 26" radiators so those won't work. '62-'65 B-body shrouds should work too and might be the same exact thing, but they sell for cheaper for some reason. I believe you do need the side brackets to mount it. Maybe the B-body version doesn't include those?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mopar-62-63-64-65-66-67-68-B-Body-V8-22-Fan...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Fan-Shroud-Set-for-1963-1964-MoPar-C-Body/3...

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Fury 58
Posted 2019-06-30 10:40 AM (#584251 - in reply to #584249)
Subject: Re: 58 Fury 451 Wedge Cooling


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Powerflite - 2019-06-30 9:48 AM

I have heard that a '63-'64 Chrysler shroud will fit onto the older radiators. You can purchase them new, but I haven't tried it. The later cars used 26" radiators so those won't work. '62-'65 B-body shrouds should work too and might be the same exact thing, but they sell for cheaper for some reason. I believe you do need the side brackets to mount it. Maybe the B-body version doesn't include those?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mopar-62-63-64-65-66-67-68-B-Body-V8-22-Fan...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Fan-Shroud-Set-for-1963-1964-MoPar-C-Body/3...

Has anybody installed these shrouds on a stock 58 ?


Edited by Fury 58 2019-06-30 11:53 AM
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58coupe
Posted 2019-06-30 11:40 AM (#584252 - in reply to #584238)
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IIRC the big blocks with factory air used a waterpump with more blades and also a fan with more blades to move more water and air.
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