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56D500boy
Posted 2019-08-04 1:43 PM (#585631)
Subject: Looking for more 56 Dodge D500 engine numbers by date



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Since I got my 56 Custom Royal D500 almost three years ago now (Sept. 16, 2016), I have been collecting info about D500's, including engine numbers. They started building the D500 engines in Nov/Dec 1955 and the first ones went into cars build in late Dec. 1955. (They started at D500-1001 and someone here as -1003). I have heard unsubstantiated rumours of engine numbers as high as D500-12nnn but the highest one that has been more or less substantiated is 8120 which was cast in June 1956. Since it was supposedly a month between block casting and completed installation, I am having trouble believing that there were 4000 more engines made between June and the end of the 56 Dodge model run in Sept/Oct.

Any additional information will be appreciated, especially with some kind of documentation, e.g. IBM card with D500 engine number and vehicle build date.

This is what I have gathered so far:

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arizona mopar gold
Posted 2019-08-05 2:52 AM (#585648 - in reply to #585631)
Subject: Re: Looking for more 56 Dodge D500 engine numbers by date



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I would love to know this info on the 57's too
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56D500boy
Posted 2019-08-05 12:57 PM (#585664 - in reply to #585648)
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arizona mopar gold - 2019-08-04 11:52 PM
I would love to know this info on the 57's too


Well you do have at least 5 data points to start with - which is a better start than I had.

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LD3 Greg
Posted 2019-08-05 11:14 PM (#585678 - in reply to #585648)
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arizona mopar gold - 2019-08-05 2:52 AM

I would love to know this info on the 57's too


John, I started a new thread in the decoding section. Check it out and please add your cars to the list as applicable.

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56D500boy
Posted 2019-08-11 7:30 PM (#585878 - in reply to #585631)
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Got one new data point from Phil W. (Thanks Phil !!). Engine number with casting date (hidden under the intake manifold/valley tray).

D500-1862 Cast on January 26, 1956. Likely installed in a 56 Custom Royal D500 Lancer 2dr hardtop (Phil has bits of that car including the engine but not the cowl body plate).





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56D500boy
Posted 2019-08-15 2:18 AM (#586037 - in reply to #585878)
Subject: RE: Looking for more 56 Dodge D500 engine numbers by date



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I got some more 56 Dodge D500 numbers with dates from Bruce F. today. None of them was higher that the D500-8120 that Dave H. has that was cast in early June 1956. The latest 56 Dodge that Bruce F. had in his registry that included Coronets, Royals and Custom Royals, with both poly and hemi engines, was D500-7976 that was in a wagon that was built in Detroit on July 20, 1956.


I also found something today regarding the change over between 56 and 57. There is a story at Allpar about the release of the 57 models in late October 1956. This implies to me that the change over occurred in August or early Sept 1956, i.e. even less time to build enough engines to get to the rumoured D500-12nnn.

REFERENCE: http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=63553&...

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56D500boy
Posted 2019-08-20 2:03 AM (#586265 - in reply to #585878)
Subject: RE: Looking for more 56 Dodge D500 engine numbers by date



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Someone pointed me to an old D500 thread from 2010 today and in that thread there was more info about the Golden Lancer with D500-7518:

dougruffner - 2010-10-26 6:21 PM

A picture of my data plate is attached, the date is 0723. I think that the build date is probably July 23, 1956, because the Golden Lancer color scheme was a spring option (supposedly). Also, I have the Dodge Owner Service Certificate for this car. The info is:

42618XXX - Vehicle Number

D500-7518 - Engine Number

Custom Royal - Model Code

Lancer - Body Type

December 29, 1956 - Delivery Date

Issued by Weatherly Motor Company Ventura, California

From the engine number, the colors, and the delivery date, this was probably one of the last D500's built. It also appears to have sat on the dealer's lot for a long time, unless the certificate was for a used vehicle.




With this body data plate photo:



That 7518 was late in the game but there were more. For example there were at least three later Detroit built D500s:

Coronet Convertible 351 52470 D500-7803 07 19 10 300
HURST/LOOKED AT 350 68162 D500-7961 01 14 11 008
4DR WAGON D500 351 53652 D500-7976 07 20 10 024

(these last three are from Bruce Faulkner's data base)




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56D500boy
Posted 2019-08-21 3:17 PM (#586341 - in reply to #586265)
Subject: RE: Looking for more 56 Dodge D500 engine numbers by date



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Clearing up some stuff on my desk credenza and I refound my "Standard Catalog of 1950s Chrysler" book by Jon Robinson that bought last December. On page 139 of the book, talking about the 1957 Dodges, Jon Robinson stated "The 1957 Dodge lineup was introduced on October 30, 1958(sic) (he meant 1956), the same day that all other Chrysler products debuted that season". (He needed a better typo checker)

So now I know the start of the 1957 run. In regards to the 1956 Dodges, he does say, on page 132, that they were introduced on Oct. 7, 1955. What he doesn't say was the last date that the 1956 models were built. Given the factories typically need a month for the change-overs. The last 56 Dodges might have been built in Sept. 1956, which would further imply that the last D500 engines were cast in August, 1956.

Would be nice to confirm these speculations and/or find more evidence of engine numbers past D500-8120.

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