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Forgotten 61
Posted 2019-08-29 11:59 PM (#586772)
Subject: Trans. Ident.



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Hi all, probably a silly question, but how do I tell which trans I have ? Powerflite,? Torqueflite ? Is there a quick way to tell them apart?
I ask because the fluid is pretty pooped and I'd like to change it. Also, where is the filter on these? Do they HAVE filters? I'd like to change that also.
Are there any special tools involved ?
The car shifts ok and I'd like to keep it that way.

Thanks for all the help so far.
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56D500boy
Posted 2019-08-30 8:59 AM (#586781 - in reply to #586772)
Subject: RE: Trans. Ident.



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You got 4 buttons (NRDL) or 5 buttons (NRD21)? 4 = Powerflite, 5 = Torqueflite

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ABloch
Posted 2019-08-30 10:44 AM (#586782 - in reply to #586772)
Subject: Re: Trans. Ident.



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No special tools required. A big drip pan comes in handy though cause there is no drain plug. I try and loosen the bolts and lower the rear of the pan first to control the potential mess.

There is no "filter" but there is an oil strainer, more of a metal screen that you may or may not have to clean out. You'll see it when you drop the pan.

Do NOT over tighten the pan bolts. Torque to spec.

This will help if you do not have a service manual of your own.

http://www.mymopar.com/downloads/servicemanuals/1960_Dodge_Service_...

Edited by ABloch 2019-08-30 10:48 AM
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Forgotten 61
Posted 2019-08-30 11:55 AM (#586786 - in reply to #586772)
Subject: Re: Trans. Ident.



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You guys are great !! I'm the proud owner of a turkeyflite. I have a FSM and it says to remove the dipstick tube, and I didn't really want to do it that way.
I'd rather do it the way you guys do, but I needed to know what tranny I had so I could make sure I get the correct gasket
And get some tips and tricks from the pros. Any particular fluid I should use, or regular ATF4 ?

Thanks for the help
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Posted 2019-08-30 12:55 PM (#586789 - in reply to #586782)
Subject: Re: Trans. Ident.



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ABloch - 2019-08-30 7:44 AM
There is no "filter" but there is an oil strainer, more of a metal screen that you may or may not have to clean out. You'll see it when you drop the pan.


This is what the strainer looks like out of the A-466 Cast Iron Torqueflite:





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ABloch
Posted 2019-08-30 1:45 PM (#586792 - in reply to #586772)
Subject: Re: Trans. Ident.



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do a search for the many opinions to the "what fluid should I use?" question. In the end you will have to make your own decision.

I use standard dex/merc in mine.
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Forgotten 61
Posted 2019-08-30 5:06 PM (#586801 - in reply to #586772)
Subject: Re: Trans. Ident.



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Looks like just a simple unbolt and soak in parts cleaner type job.
I was going with the same thing, standard Dex tranny fluid.
I'm assuming the gasket is easily obtainable.

Thanks ABloch
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ABloch
Posted 2019-08-30 5:24 PM (#586802 - in reply to #586772)
Subject: Re: Trans. Ident.



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Should be.

Tip. Take a picture of the one you remove so as to be certain before leaving the parts store that they sold you the right one.
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Forgotten 61
Posted 2019-08-30 5:27 PM (#586803 - in reply to #586772)
Subject: Re: Trans. Ident.



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I'm going to bring the gasket, and the pan itself just to make sure.
If I could bring the tranny in, I'd do it.
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local2Ed
Posted 2019-09-17 9:33 AM (#587645 - in reply to #586786)
Subject: Re: Trans. Ident.


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Forgotten 61 - 2019-08-30 11:55 AM

You guys are great !! I'm the proud owner of a turkeyflite. I have a FSM and it says to remove the dipstick tube, and I didn't really want to do it that way.
I'd rather do it the way you guys do, but I needed to know what tranny I had so I could make sure I get the correct gasket
And get some tips and tricks from the pros. Any particular fluid I should use, or regular ATF4 ?

Thanks for the help


Put a straight edge across the bolt holes on the side of the pan that mates to the transmission.
These holes often are dimpled from overtightening the bolts. Just tap them back flat with a hammer. If you don't you might get a leak.
I prefer to use a torque wrench when installing bolts.
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wizard
Posted 2019-09-17 11:36 AM (#587655 - in reply to #586772)
Subject: Re: Trans. Ident.



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Use Dexron III in the cast iron hog (TorqueFlite A466)
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57chizler
Posted 2019-09-17 2:06 PM (#587661 - in reply to #587655)
Subject: Re: Trans. Ident.



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The current crop of ATF's are formulated for transmissions that have lockup converters and overdrive which the iron transmissions have neither. IMO, type F is a better choice.
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