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BrianD
Posted 2019-09-02 11:58 PM (#586952)
Subject: Will you use an original bumper jack?



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My '59 Windsor has a flat. So I opened the trunk and the original jack was still there. I decided to go old school and change a tire like I was on the side of the road in the old days. So for kicks and grins got it working again..the jack was really in bad shape. Only the ground was flat and didn't have to worry about it falling over. It worked like a champ but if I had really nice chrome I'm thinking a 1/8th rubber shim glued to the metal would work perfectly. Would you use your original jack?? Inquiring mind is curious




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BrianD
Posted 2019-09-03 12:22 AM (#586953 - in reply to #586952)
Subject: RE: Will you use an original bumper jack?



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Kinda like the wide wheel look..maybe a set of baby moons?
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ronbo97
Posted 2019-09-03 10:13 AM (#586966 - in reply to #586953)
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No. They scratch and damage the bumper. Use floor jack or call AAA.

BTW, you're taking a serious risk using the jack on a dirt surface. Easy to tip when trying to get the lug nuts off, especially using a cross wrench. Only use it on a hard surface, like concrete or asphalt.

Ron

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58 DESOTOS RULE
Posted 2019-09-03 10:33 AM (#586967 - in reply to #586952)
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I'm with Ronbo. I have the original bamper jack in my Forward Look car, and it works, more or less, but I wouldn't use it to change a tire. The damage to the bumper that it might cause if the jack slipped isn't worth it. I use a bottle jack when I'm on the road and a floor jack when I'm in my shop. 

Edit: Nice looking 59 Chrysler by the way. I can tell it's spent most of its life in Calfornia. No observed rust at the usual places on 59s.



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Powerflite
Posted 2019-09-03 10:56 AM (#586969 - in reply to #586952)
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The original jack is dead weight, useful for car show judges and that's about it. I get a scissors jack from a late model mini-van. They are easy to store and work really well. It can help to attach at block to the top to adjust the height to the frame better.
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BrianD
Posted 2019-09-03 12:03 PM (#586975 - in reply to #586952)
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I too use the scissor jack. Great for fitting under my cars that have lower ground clearance. There is no way I would use this on a car today, especially one with fresh or nice chrome...I just did this for my own amusement as its been probably 35 years since I last did it.

P.S. The ground under the hay that the jack is on is Northern CA hard packed clay dirt....you use a jack hammer if you want to dig in the summer and in the winter can dig it with a plastic spoon.
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57burb
Posted 2019-09-03 12:07 PM (#586976 - in reply to #586969)
Subject: Re: Will you use an original bumper jack?



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Good lord, hell no.

Think about this. You're lifting a 4500lb car by its bumper. That bumper is pretty substantial, but it's not designed for THAT. The bumper can distort or even bend without warning while lifting the car, so it's dangerous to be anywhere near the car while it is being lifted by a bumper jack. They are also notoriously unstable with only the small plate on the ground - especially on dirt or an uneven surface.

Go to a junkyard and look at all the old cars with chrome bumpers; more often than not, the bumper will be slightly buckled and tweaked "up" between the bumper bracket and the end of the bumper, with a corresponding bend at the bottom where a bumper jack was used to lift the car.

A modern jack is cheap and much more sturdy than those old bumper jacks, and you won't damage the bumper lifting the car. Take a look at how much it costs to have a bumper straightened and rechromed, or just find a good replacement, and you'll toss that bumper jack in the trash where it belongs.



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Viper Guy
Posted 2019-09-05 9:50 AM (#587092 - in reply to #586952)
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Yeah, I use my bumper jack all the time stored in the trunk for show purposes only. But I would never consider using it to jack up the car. I like the idea of a scissor jack or use my insurance if stuck on the side of the road with a flat tire.
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miquelonbrad
Posted 2019-09-05 10:19 AM (#587096 - in reply to #586952)
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It's been probably 30 years since I used a bumper jack...but not because I don't trust them. It seems that with "good" roads today (subjective, depending on who you ask) and modern steel belted radial tires, no one gets flats like they used to. My Dad says that when he first started driving in the 60's, flats were a monthly occurrence.
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57chizler
Posted 2019-09-05 12:07 PM (#587106 - in reply to #586952)
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My '56 Plaza has a front frame clip swap and the bumper mounts aren't as robust as original so a bumper jack is out of the question. If I ever get a flat I'll call AAA.
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imopar380
Posted 2019-09-06 12:20 AM (#587136 - in reply to #586952)
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I've always used a scissors or bottle jack to lift my car up. I keep a bottle jack in the trunk behind the spare tire. I'd never use a bumper jack again unless there was no alternative.
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Polara61_383
Posted 2019-09-06 12:53 PM (#587155 - in reply to #586952)
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I've used mine a couple of times and it never scratched the bumper or tipped over.
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local2Ed
Posted 2019-09-06 6:37 PM (#587181 - in reply to #586952)
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I had a rear tire blow out this spring, belt shifted , I got off the highway and was nursing it home on the back roads when it blew out at 25mph.
I wished I had a bumper jack. I had a small floor jack and a small bottle jack. Floor jack and bottle jack were too tall to get under frame on the side of car to raise it, but both too short with what I had to try to raise it up from the back bumper or rear frame. The floor jack would only fit under the rear axle tube if I removed the saddle from the floor jack which I really didn't like that idea.
The only place I could raise it was if I put the bottle jack about mid-way between the rear axle and the rear mounting point of the leaf spring under the leaf spring. I raised it very carefully a couple inches until I could get the floor jack under the frame on side of the car then finished raising it the rest of the way and put a jack stand under the axle.

Removing it with a fully inflated tire was no problem.

This thread just reminded me I need to locate a correct bumper jack.
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PlymouthFury
Posted 2019-09-23 10:17 PM (#587890 - in reply to #586952)
Subject: RE: Will you use an original bumper jack?



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I’ve used bumper jacks countless times on many types of surfaces and conditions. Never dented or bent the bumper and never had a car fall over. They work perfectly fine. People got some kinda misconception that bumper jacks are notoriously dangerous... when used as designed they are fine. Would you get under a car using a bumper jack? No. But they can be used to change a tire without worry if the jack is in good condition.

You’ll also find that many small floor jacks won’t fit under the car when the tire is flat or be able to raise it high enough to actually change the tire. Be sure to test it out.



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57chizler
Posted 2019-09-24 3:44 PM (#587910 - in reply to #587890)
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I recently got one of these, haven't had a chance to try it yet:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/3-Ton-Automotive-Electric-Scissor-Car-Jack-...
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firedome
Posted 2019-09-25 9:41 AM (#587929 - in reply to #586952)
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I'd use it if necessary under the right conditions: perfectly flat pavement, and the wheels blocked. Bumpers then were designed for using the jacks on them, used properly it shouldn't result in any damage except perhaps scratching. But why even use one unless you had no alternatives.

As to flats in the '60s, I started driving in the mid '60s and flats on the old bias 8.00 x 14s on my '63 Ford wagon were certainly not unheard of, maybe every couple of years, more so than occur now perhaps, and I can recall certain models of General tires being a problem then, but flats were still relatively rare, it wasn't the 1920s!

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plymouth
Posted 2019-09-26 10:35 AM (#587972 - in reply to #586952)
Subject: Re: Will you use an original bumper jack?



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Yes, I have used mine on the Imperial. The only time I've had a flat, the small hydraulic jack wouldn't fit under the car. Luckily I still had the bumper jack. Ten minutes later, I was back on the road.
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