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58 Belvedere 2D HT project; $8000
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drosera88
Posted 2019-10-10 8:10 PM (#588665)
Subject: 58 Belvedere 2D HT project; $8000



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Top of the car looks nice and solid. Bottom of the car not so much. 

 

https://dayton.craigslist.org/cto/d/saint-paris-1958-plymouth-belvedere/6996468632.html

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jeff b
Posted 2019-10-11 8:08 AM (#588678 - in reply to #588665)
Subject: Re: 58 Belvedere 2D HT project; $8000


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Sounds like games to me.....
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mikes2nd
Posted 2019-10-11 9:25 AM (#588679 - in reply to #588665)
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its a 57 with some 58 parts on it first of all. the body is amazing? hmm

thats the correct area code. not unreasonbble if the body is that nice even for a 57

 



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Cmangeot
Posted 2019-10-11 10:08 AM (#588680 - in reply to #588679)
Subject: Re: 58 Belvedere 2D HT project; $8000


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I contacted seller. I’m going to see car Monday. If it’s not sold by then.
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56D500boy
Posted 2019-10-11 12:17 PM (#588685 - in reply to #588679)
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mikes2nd - 2019-10-11 6:25 AM

its a 57 with some 58 parts on it first of all. the body is amazing? hmm



Headlight area is definitely 57 but front grill and taillights are 58. Something somebody isn't telling us.

Need to see the VIN plate to try to suss it out.

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ronbo97
Posted 2019-10-11 2:28 PM (#588693 - in reply to #588685)
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58 with 57 fenders, apparently. Fender top mouldings are from 57. Also, 57 buckets don't fit into 58 openings.

Ron

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Cmangeot
Posted 2019-10-12 4:59 PM (#588743 - in reply to #588665)
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Ad is down. Haven’t heard from seller, but it’s probably sold. Oh well.

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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2019-10-13 1:45 AM (#588774 - in reply to #588743)
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Sussing is still illegal in 27 of the 50 states. Better check with local laws
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Cmangeot
Posted 2019-10-14 2:39 PM (#588826 - in reply to #588665)
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I visited the car today. As previously stated, top 85 percent of car is solid as a rock. Needs floors and trunk. Definitely a 58. 57 fenders and headlights. Interior is totally gone. Wood paneling door cards, vinyl stretched over seat frames with no padding. Indoor outdoor carpet with residential pad. Headliner is makeshift and falling. Floors and trunk have been done with riveted sheet metal with loads of tar visible between frame and rocker. Rockets are gone as are both lower front quarters. Trunk and extensions are poorly riveted as well. Hasn’t run in 20 plus years and motor won’t turn. . Broken windshield. Frame looked ok but I’d have real concern about body mounts considering there is nothing but tar.
It is definitely a high dollar project. LOADS of metal work and unfortunately, it’s the costly structural stuff. I have a lot of pics, but no way to post.

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Cmangeot
Posted 2019-10-14 6:14 PM (#588834 - in reply to #588665)
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Vin is LP2*75762

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Cmangeot
Posted 2019-10-14 8:05 PM (#588845 - in reply to #588665)
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The condition of the underside has me extremely on the fence for this car. There is essentially tin and tar on both sides between what is left of the rocker all the way past the frame toward the trans hump. Same in the trunk, the rot goes all the way into the center section of the trunk on both sides I know its rare to find one, but wow.....this thing is a lot of work.

I am not sure if the car was wrecked and thats why the fenders were replaced, or maybe they were rusted out. Nonetheless, I want to buy it, but I think Id be biting off more than I can chew. That said, how often does one's holy grail drop into their lap at only 100 miles away?

gimme some advice here!!

If anyone has any questions, let me know.
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Cmangeot
Posted 2019-10-14 8:06 PM (#588846 - in reply to #588665)
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Note the Rink's oil filter and Kmart air filter. That should tell you the last time someone tried to start this beast.
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56D500boy
Posted 2019-10-14 8:33 PM (#588847 - in reply to #588834)
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Cmangeot - 2019-10-14 3:14 PM

Vin is LP2*75762


LP2-H BELVEDERE 1958 118 8 Detroit LP2-1001

So likely a real Detroit built Belvedere V8


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mikes2nd
Posted 2019-10-15 2:42 AM (#588851 - in reply to #588665)
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that tarred up floor is hiding a hideous repair job, just be prepared to replace the whole floor of it... so 6500$? 7k max
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60 Imp
Posted 2019-10-15 7:16 AM (#588856 - in reply to #588845)
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Advice is easy! Ditch the idea of a crusty old Plymouth, go for an Imperial! Check out the coupe in this link. Rarer, more powerful, more room, just as attractive. That Plymouth has Backache/Headache written all over it.

Steve.

https://classiccars.com/listings/find/1958/chrysler/imperial


https://youtu.be/JllLR2rWsms




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Cmangeot
Posted 2019-10-15 10:21 AM (#588864 - in reply to #588665)
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It definitely has wallet-ache written all over it.
Curious what the group's opinion of cost of metal work for full floor and trunk replacement. Someone call Fridberg!!!!

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1961plymouthfury
Posted 2019-10-16 2:50 PM (#588907 - in reply to #588665)
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Its a nice car but it needs work
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