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NicksGarage
Posted 2019-10-15 8:45 PM (#588872)
Subject: 1960 Chrysler Town & Country project



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I'm trying to buy this wagon and it's not in as good of shape as the seller advertised. It's pretty crusty and has bondo in the lower body. Other problems with the car includes missing the gas tank. I haven't been able to find a tank anywhere. He can't start the car and said he's never driven it but said that the transmission engaged when he had it running 8 years ago. He said the brakes don't work either. The exhaust system is shot. Also the car was full of mice so probably has wiring damage along with other issues. Stinks really bad, the upholstery is a wreck. All the exterior potmetal is bad. He claimed it just came out of 40 years of storage in a climate controlled garage. But unless that climate was a swamp, I'm not sure what he means.

Another big problem is that the rear underbody is badly damaged like they backed up over a boulder and smashed in the rear compartment. Is this area the same for all the '60-64 big wagons? Anyone have a gas tank?

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Mike McCandless
Posted 2019-10-15 10:09 PM (#588877 - in reply to #588872)
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Someone is going to end up paying over 10k for that thing tomorrow
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NicksGarage
Posted 2019-10-15 10:21 PM (#588878 - in reply to #588877)
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Mike McCandless - 2019-10-15 7:09 PM

Someone is going to end up paying over 10k for that thing tomorrow


Probably me!
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NicksGarage
Posted 2019-10-16 5:03 PM (#588914 - in reply to #588872)
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Well I bought it. So now my black 300F will have a garage companion. I'll post more pictures later. Looks a lot better washed off but still lots of issues. Especially the chrome and that pesky missing gas tank.



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56D500boy
Posted 2019-10-16 5:10 PM (#588915 - in reply to #588914)
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NicksGarage - 2019-10-16 2:03 PM

Well I bought it. So now my black 300F will have a garage companion. I'll post more pictures later. Looks a lot better washed off but still lots of issues. Especially the chrome and that pesky missing gas tank.


Looking good. Cleaned up real nice.

Here's a finished one you could use as a guide:

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/chrysler/new-york...



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Mike McCandless
Posted 2019-10-16 7:14 PM (#588922 - in reply to #588872)
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Hell of a project, good luck
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Posted 2019-10-16 8:22 PM (#588925 - in reply to #588872)
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I've never noticed before but the horizontal grill bars are the same style as the 60 DeSoto. Different openings so no interchange of course.

That New Yorker will be quite an eye catcher when it's back on the road.
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NicksGarage
Posted 2019-10-16 8:38 PM (#588926 - in reply to #588915)
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56D500boy - 2019-10-16 2:10 PM

Looking good. Cleaned up real nice.

Here's a finished one you could use as a guide:

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/chrysler/new-york...



I love the red interior with the black. They used that car to try and get the bids up. Even that car has a few restoration issues. I'd like to see what they started with. I want to make mine a driver.
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Posted 2019-10-16 9:00 PM (#588928 - in reply to #588925)
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b5rt - 2019-10-16 5:22 PM

I've never noticed before but the horizontal grill bars are the same style as the 60 DeSoto. Different openings so no interchange of course.





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Posted 2019-10-16 10:10 PM (#588932 - in reply to #588872)
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Congrats. If you want one of these, it was probably the right decision to purchase it. If the bottom of the tank isn't rusted, I would cut the top off enough to work out all the dents well. Then weld it back up, maybe even put a fuel injection pump, baffle & pickup in there while you are at it. Then weld the top back on. After welding, clean up the welds nice, and then braze over the top of them. That will ensure that it is sealed well. Just clean out the tank well with dish soap first, fill it mostly with water and a steady flow of compressed air when you make the first cut so you are safe. I've done this multiple times. Looks like a great project even with its issues. Congratulations.
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NicksGarage
Posted 2019-10-16 10:26 PM (#588934 - in reply to #588872)
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I ordered the license plates for the car. Been wanting to get these for years.





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NicksGarage
Posted 2019-10-16 10:33 PM (#588935 - in reply to #588932)
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Powerflite - 2019-10-16 7:10 PM

Congrats. If you want one of these, it was probably the right decision to purchase it. If the bottom of the tank isn't rusted, I would cut the top off enough to work out all the dents well. Then weld it back up, maybe even put a fuel injection pump, baffle & pickup in there while you are at it. Then weld the top back on. After welding, clean up the welds nice, and then braze over the top of them. That will ensure that it is sealed well. Just clean out the tank well with dish soap first, fill it mostly with water and a steady flow of compressed air when you make the first cut so you are safe. I've done this multiple times. Looks like a great project even with its issues. Congratulations.


Problem is that there is no tank at all. Trying to get one from another wagon that has rust holes in it that are visible and they're not sure how fixable it is one they get it out. I have a friend who is a sheet metal fabricator and he's going to see what he can do.
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Posted 2019-10-17 3:55 AM (#588941 - in reply to #588872)
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Very nice project
- the long roofs are totally cool
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Posted 2019-10-17 4:33 PM (#588959 - in reply to #588872)
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IMO, the best looking year of all the FWLK wagons. One of the holy grails
4dr Hardtop, Power everything, what else is there to want?

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NicksGarage
Posted 2019-10-20 3:19 PM (#589039 - in reply to #588872)
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Found a good gas tank, or I should say a good gas tank found me.

I was looking at my friend's '64 New Yorker Town & Country, which uses the same tank, and his has a splash shield in front of it. Anyone know what year they started doing that? I might have to fabricate one for mine to protect the tank.
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Posted 2019-10-20 3:38 PM (#589042 - in reply to #588872)
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I'll probably put disk brakes on the car with a dual master cylinder. Would like to find something that will fit with the auto pilot. Maybe a modern master with a remote reservoir? Lots of research to do.





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Posted 2019-10-20 5:23 PM (#589045 - in reply to #588872)
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My '62 NY wagon has a splash shield in front of the tank.
I installed disc brakes on both my '60 NewYorker and '62 NewYorker wagon.
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NicksGarage
Posted 2019-10-20 5:43 PM (#589046 - in reply to #589045)
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BigBlockMopar - 2019-10-20 2:23 PM

My '62 NY wagon has a splash shield in front of the tank.
I installed disc brakes on both my '60 NewYorker and '62 NewYorker wagon.


That's good to know. I'm going to go look at parts on a '62 wagon next week.

Looking at options for doing the brakes, I also found that in '62 they moved the Auto Pilot servo over to clear the '62 style booster and master cylinder.
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NicksGarage
Posted 2019-10-21 1:31 PM (#589076 - in reply to #588872)
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Not a good sign when your NOS taillight lenses arrive in a box looking like this. Creative place to deliver them to, never had that happen before. Fortunately the lenses weren't broken. The right hand one has a lot of scratches in it but they did advertise it that way. The ones on the car are cloudy and brittle.



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Posted 2019-10-21 11:25 PM (#589102 - in reply to #588872)
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Plastic polish will take out a lot of those scratches.
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Posted 2019-10-22 11:31 AM (#589119 - in reply to #588872)
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Parts are us, a wrecking yard in orland, ca. Has a beat 60 plymouth wagon. May still have a gas tank in it
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NicksGarage
Posted 2019-10-22 4:32 PM (#589129 - in reply to #589119)
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Thanks but an gas tank found me. Haven't actually got my hands on it but should be no problem. Thanks for letting me know though.



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NicksGarage
Posted 2019-10-23 8:44 PM (#589167 - in reply to #588872)
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Anyone have a 1960 or 1961 Chrysler wagon that could show me what the gas tank stone shield looks like. I guess I'm missing that as well.
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Posted 2019-10-26 8:55 AM (#589304 - in reply to #588872)
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NicksGarage - 2019-10-15 8:45 PM

Another big problem is that the rear underbody is badly damaged like they backed up over a boulder and smashed in the rear compartment. Is this area the same for all the '60-64 big wagons?


The spare tire / rear cargo storage well is the SAME on the following wagons:
1960-61 Plymouth Suburban
1960-64 Chrysler
1960-61 Dodge
1962-64 Dodge Custom 880

That area always seems to be rusted out or dented / damaged. Finding one from a parts car in nice condition can be difficult. Since it’s just a floorboard, usually easier to cut out and make patch panels to weld in.
If it’s not rusted out you maybe able to hammer the metal back into shape
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Posted 2019-10-29 2:47 PM (#589481 - in reply to #589076)
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NicksGarage - 2019-10-21 12:31 PM

Not a good sign when your NOS taillight lenses arrive in a box looking like this. Creative place to deliver them to, never had that happen before. Fortunately the lenses weren't broken. The right hand one has a lot of scratches in it but they did advertise it that way. The ones on the car are cloudy and brittle.



I wonder if a headlight restoration kit would be a good way to go to "restore" those scratched tail lights. I have used them on my 11 year old daily Mazda's headlights and it went from horribly foggy to clear as new.

Perhaps you can test it on the old tail lights. I used this one:

https://www.amazon.com/SYLVANIA-Headlight-Restoration-Headlights-Pro...
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NicksGarage
Posted 2019-10-29 3:39 PM (#589482 - in reply to #589481)
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slimwhitman - 2019-10-29 11:47 AM

I wonder if a headlight restoration kit would be a good way to go to "restore" those scratched tail lights. I have used them on my 11 year old daily Mazda's headlights and it went from horribly foggy to clear as new.

Perhaps you can test it on the old tail lights. I used this one:

https://www.amazon.com/SYLVANIA-Headlight-Restoration-Headlights-Pro...

I have a few lenses to practice on before I got after the NOSS one.
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Posted 2019-10-29 3:39 PM (#589483 - in reply to #589167)
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NicksGarage - 2019-10-23 5:44 PM

Anyone have a 1960 or 1961 Chrysler wagon that could show me what the gas tank stone shield looks like. I guess I'm missing that as well.


Here is the stone shield. I found 2 of them.





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Posted 2019-10-29 7:07 PM (#589493 - in reply to #589483)
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The scratches in that lens are pretty deep. You may want to sand it with 800 / 1000 / 1200 grit paper and then polish it. Wagon lenses are very rare!
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Posted 2019-10-30 10:45 AM (#589520 - in reply to #589493)
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57burb - 2019-10-29 6:07 PM

The scratches in that lens are pretty deep. You may want to sand it with 800 / 1000 / 1200 grit paper and then polish it. Wagon lenses are very rare!


...and that Sylvania kit has those sandpapers in the kit.
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NicksGarage
Posted 2019-11-12 6:38 PM (#590072 - in reply to #588872)
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I still don't have the car home but I did get the title in the mail today. The guy I got the car from had told me he bought it from San Diego 8 years ago but then in the auction listing it said that the car was just pulled from 40 years of climate controlled storage. When I went to the auction and talked to him in person, he told me that it had been in a basement. Now being a San Diego native and a car guy since almost birth, I know that didn't add up. We don't have climate controlled garages or basements here. Anyway, I looked at the car myself and bought it based on what I saw.

What the title showed me is that it was titled in Indiana from at least 1976 through 2008. I looked up the name on the title, and the gentleman had passed away in 2016. Of course the title was signed by him last month, from the grave apparently. It didn't take me long to track down his son based on an obituary so I sent an e-mail seeking more information on the car. About 30 minutes later, I get a call from Plymouth Indiana from the son of the man on the title. And now the history of the car is coming into focus.

Gary tells me he bought the car around 1973 when he was a teenager and his father had to register it because he was too young to drive. He drove the car the car through high school and into college. Around 1978, he parked the car in a carport at a lake house and there it sat until 3 or 4 years ago when he took it to a couple shops to try and get it running. One was able to get it running off of a gas can as the gas tank was rusted out. So that explains why the tank is missing.

Gary is a really nice guy and he's going to write up the details and send them to me. He's trying to recall the name of the guy he bought the car from as that was someone who brought it from California.

Moral of the story is, never believe what people tell you when they are trying to sell you a car. You have to go look at it yourself and make up your own mind. Was the same deal with my 300F, got a story from the seller that just didn't add up and every time he told it the details were different.

The car is supposed to arrive tomorrow, and then the work begins to get it on the road again.
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NicksGarage
Posted 2019-11-15 1:31 PM (#590168 - in reply to #588872)
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The car has made it home and the work to get it running and driving will begin this weekend.





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NicksGarage
Posted 2019-11-15 4:28 PM (#590175 - in reply to #588872)
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Mock up with the wire wheels...





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