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NC Adventurer
Posted 2020-02-28 1:27 PM (#594955)
Subject: Les Fairbanks and the Fairbanks Brake Drum Puller


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A respected member of this site recommended acquiring and using the Fairbanks Brake Drum Puller produced by Les Fairbanks to remove the rear brake drums on FL vehicles.

I contacted Mr Fairbanks and expressed my desire to purchase one of his pullers. I received a reply that same day, explaining that he could have it in the mail the next business day. I had a delay of about a week in getting back with him but he again replied immediately about my purchase. I utilized payment through PayPal and - again - Mr Fairbanks responded that he received payment and had shipped the puller. Here is a man who understands customer service and provides the best possible in every aspect of an interaction.

I'm all about taking advantage of great opportunities to enhance my business but Mr Fairbanks has me beat on that, too. My puller arrived VERY well packed one of the smaller "If it fits , it ships" boxes. The weight of the package indicated that USPS lost money on that deal. What I found inside is amazingly well built. Each of the studs is etched with either "R" or "L" to indicate which side its to to be used on. The plate portion is very well produced with not one burr or grinder mark anywhere to be seen. From a tool guy's perspective, its an amazing piece of gear!

I'll be using the puller this weekend. I am sure it will perform flawlessly and, more importantly, safer than the factory recommended puller.

Stay tuned for further follow ups on what appears to be the best quality tool I have purchased in a long time. Mr Fairbanks - thanks you very much. It has been a true pleasure ordering from you!
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NC Adventurer
Posted 2020-03-02 6:22 PM (#595094 - in reply to #594955)
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Fairbanks Brake Drum Puller - This has got to be the slickest thing since sliced bread, canned beer and tuna on rye! Finally a well made tool that tool a tedious job and made it effortless.

Mr Fairbanks - Sir, you are a genius, a scholar and a gentleman! Thank you very much for the great tool and excellent service!
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GregCon
Posted 2020-03-04 7:32 AM (#595185 - in reply to #594955)
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Still awaiting your third post....
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NC Adventurer
Posted 2020-03-04 8:34 AM (#595190 - in reply to #595185)
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GregCon - 2020-03-04 7:32 AM

Still awaiting your third post....


Why does there always appear to be a smart ass in every crowd? Are you the gatekeeper on posts for the site?
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GregCon
Posted 2020-03-04 12:05 PM (#595203 - in reply to #594955)
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Here's the deal....you gush all over this tool but fail to provide much useful other than you have a blooming love affair. How about a photo or information on how or where to buy it or how much it cost? Pros and cons?

Maybe it's a good tool, maybe you think it's awesome because you've never used anything better. Your post sounds more like a paid advertisement than an objective review. It's so spam-like the average person doesn't know whether it is legit or something else.
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Posted 2020-03-04 12:52 PM (#595207 - in reply to #594955)
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http://www.chrysler300club.com/rcmstuff/fairbanks/puller.html

Instructions for Mopar rear drum puller.

Caution: These drums can come off the axles with enough force to cause injury. Don't stand directly in front of drum when removing.

Secure the car safely on jack stands. Remove the wheels and axle nuts. Loosen brake shoe adjustments.

For cars that use lug bolts:

On the right (passenger's) side: Put the 5 RH threaded bolts through the holes in the plate and screw them into the lug bolt holes until the plate is against the axle shaft. Tighten the bolts evenly until the drum comes off.

On the left (driver's) side: Put the 5 LH threaded studs about 3/4 of an inch into the drum. Put the plate over the studs against the axle shaft. Install washers and the 5 LH threaded nuts on each stud and tighten evenly until the drum comes off.

For cars that use lug nuts:

On the right (passenger's) side: Screw the 5 RH threaded elongated nuts with stud attached all the way onto the studs on the drum. Put the plate over the studs with the small plate in the center against the axle shaft. Install washers and the 5 RH threaded nuts and tighten evenly until the drum comes off.

On the left (driver's) side, procedure is the same as right side using LH threaded nuts.

If you have any questions, comments, or the tool doesn't remove the drums on your car, call me at (269) 926-7005 days or (269) 463-5260 evenings, or email me at lessue52@comcast.net . Mailing address is Les Fairbanks C/O T&L Mold Company., 1246 East Empire Ave., Benton Harbor, MI., 49022. Your money will be promptly refunded if this tool fails to remove the drums from your car.

Les Fairbanks




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NC Adventurer
Posted 2020-03-04 1:15 PM (#595209 - in reply to #595203)
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GregCon - 2020-03-04 12:05 PM

Here's the deal....you gush all over this tool but fail to provide much useful other than you have a blooming love affair. How about a photo or information on how or where to buy it or how much it cost? Pros and cons?

Maybe it's a good tool, maybe you think it's awesome because you've never used anything better. Your post sounds more like a paid advertisement than an objective review. It's so spam-like the average person doesn't know whether it is legit or something else.


Did you notice that this post is in the vendor section of the forums? I guess you're just too cool to publicly thank someone who was good to you and provided you with something useful.

You know, Greg. You're the kind of person who seems to thrive because of keyboard bravado. In the real world someone would put you in your place but you have a set of 20 pounders (or believe you do) as long as you're online. Amazing!

Do you wait until someone reviews everything before you use/buy it? Must be a long time in your house between meals.
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57chizler
Posted 2020-03-09 3:49 PM (#595434 - in reply to #595209)
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What's the current price of the puller?
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NicksGarage
Posted 2020-03-09 4:29 PM (#595437 - in reply to #595434)
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57chizler - 2020-03-09 12:49 PM

What's the current price of the puller?


I just got one a few days ago and it was $108.50 shipped. He uses a flat rate box so the shipping is $8.50 in the US.
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57desoto
Posted 2020-03-10 6:04 AM (#595449 - in reply to #595437)
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FWIW, I know Les. I don't own one of his drum pullers, as I bought a more conventional one many years ago before learning of the Fairbanks type. Les is a good man, very helpful and friendly, and I have recommended his puller many times, with EVERY purchaser very satisfied with it.
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Fireflite56
Posted 2020-03-10 1:17 PM (#595468 - in reply to #595449)
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I also know Les personally from the National DeSoto Club and we also have one of his pullers. It's a very good design and makes removing drums quick, easy work!
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51coronet
Posted 2020-06-01 11:31 AM (#599061 - in reply to #594955)
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Looks like a good tool. I have used and bought one of the more universal types from OTC. It works but is capable of bending lugs because I used 3 of the legs. Still a good tool because it can be used on other vehicles. This one is nice for the FL cars and probably not as universal. Will it work on imperial bolt pattern or just 5 x 4.5 bolt pattern?
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NC Adventurer
Posted 2020-06-01 3:40 PM (#599068 - in reply to #599061)
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51coronet - 2020-06-01 11:31 AM

Looks like a good tool. I have used and bought one of the more universal types from OTC. It works but is capable of bending lugs because I used 3 of the legs. Still a good tool because it can be used on other vehicles. This one is nice for the FL cars and probably not as universal. Will it work on imperial bolt pattern or just 5 x 4.5 bolt pattern?


I believe its set up for the 5 x 4.5 only but I am very sure that He could produce one for you in the pattern you need. His design is sound and very safe. I highly recommend it.
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56D500boy
Posted 2020-06-01 3:53 PM (#599069 - in reply to #599068)
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NC Adventurer - 2020-06-01 12:40 PM
I believe its set up for the 5 x 4.5 only but I am very sure that He could produce one for you in the pattern you need.


Based on the photo from the 300 club site, it might be possible with the existing plate. Certainly with a slightly larger plate.









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NC Adventurer
Posted 2020-06-04 6:09 PM (#599254 - in reply to #599069)
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56D500boy - 2020-06-01 3:53 PM

NC Adventurer - 2020-06-01 12:40 PM
I believe its set up for the 5 x 4.5 only but I am very sure that He could produce one for you in the pattern you need.


Based on the photo from the 300 club site, it might be possible with the existing plate. Certainly with a slightly larger plate.







You know you bring up an excellent point. Why couldn't the larger bolt pattern be drilled between those of the smaller bolt pattern, retaining the strength if the steel and making the tool multi-application. Excellent catch in noticing the ability to redrill the original plate.
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56D500boy
Posted 2020-06-04 8:52 PM (#599258 - in reply to #599254)
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NC Adventurer - 2020-06-04 3:09 PM Why couldn't the larger bolt pattern be drilled between those of the smaller bolt pattern, retaining the strength if the steel and making the tool multi-application. Excellent catch in noticing the ability to redrill the original plate.


Les's plate might have to be just a tad bigger to accommodate both a 4.5" bolt circle and a 5.5" bolt circle. With the existing plate size the holes on the 5.5" bolt circle might get a bit close to the edge of the plate = weak, bending point. See below:





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NC Adventurer
Posted 2020-06-07 6:07 PM (#599382 - in reply to #599258)
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56D500boy - 2020-06-04 8:52 PM

NC Adventurer - 2020-06-04 3:09 PM Why couldn't the larger bolt pattern be drilled between those of the smaller bolt pattern, retaining the strength if the steel and making the tool multi-application. Excellent catch in noticing the ability to redrill the original plate.


Les's plate might have to be just a tad bigger to accommodate both a 4.5" bolt circle and a 5.5" bolt circle. With the existing plate size the holes on the 5.5" bolt circle might get a bit close to the edge of the plate = weak, bending point. See below:



I believe you may be right about needing a slightly larger plate to accommodate both sizes of lug patterns. I do see the value in having a tool made in such a manner for anyone who is really into the FL scene and likely to utilize one on multiple cars. As we have several different FLs in our car club, I've been kicking around the idea of contacting Mr Fairbanks and asking him to make one with both patterns to make it available for club member use.
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56D500boy
Posted 2020-06-07 9:11 PM (#599391 - in reply to #599382)
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NC Adventurer - 2020-06-07 3:07 PM I believe you may be right about needing a slightly larger plate to accommodate both sizes of lug patterns. I do see the value in having a tool made in such a manner for anyone who is really into the FL scene and likely to utilize one on multiple cars. As we have several different FLs in our car club, I've been kicking around the idea of contacting Mr Fairbanks and asking him to make one with both patterns to make it available for club member use.


Are the Imperial lug nuts different (larger) size that the rest of the clan's? If they are, then even if the plate could be enlarged and drilled for both 4.5" and 5.5" bolt circles, Les would have to supply two sets of nuts, etc. Probably not cost effective. I know I only want the 4.5" bolt circle stuff (and I would have ordered back in March but with the border closed to unimportant travel, shipping from Les to Canada might be prohibitive.)

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NC Adventurer
Posted 2020-06-08 12:45 PM (#599413 - in reply to #599391)
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56D500boy - 2020-06-07 9:11 PM

NC Adventurer - 2020-06-07 3:07 PM I believe you may be right about needing a slightly larger plate to accommodate both sizes of lug patterns. I do see the value in having a tool made in such a manner for anyone who is really into the FL scene and likely to utilize one on multiple cars. As we have several different FLs in our car club, I've been kicking around the idea of contacting Mr Fairbanks and asking him to make one with both patterns to make it available for club member use.


Are the Imperial lug nuts different (larger) size that the rest of the clan's? If they are, then even if the plate could be enlarged and drilled for both 4.5" and 5.5" bolt circles, Les would have to supply two sets of nuts, etc. Probably not cost effective. I know I only want the 4.5" bolt circle stuff (and I would have ordered back in March but with the border closed to unimportant travel, shipping from Les to Canada might be prohibitive.)

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Sorry to hear that COVID affected the movement of goods to Canada in that manner. Now that things are opening up, you'll be more than pleased with the product you receive when you receive yours.

As for the diameter of the lugs themselves on vehicles with the 5.5" pattern, I'm not sure. My guess would be no simply based on the need to stock two size lugs but I may be entirely wrong. Maybe one of the more learned among us can enlighten us on that point.
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Posted 2020-06-09 12:03 AM (#599436 - in reply to #599413)
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NC Adventurer - 2020-06-08 12:45 PM

56D500boy - 2020-06-07 9:11 PM

NC Adventurer - 2020-06-07 3:07 PM I believe you may be right about needing a slightly larger plate to accommodate both sizes of lug patterns. I do see the value in having a tool made in such a manner for anyone who is really into the FL scene and likely to utilize one on multiple cars. As we have several different FLs in our car club, I've been kicking around the idea of contacting Mr Fairbanks and asking him to make one with both patterns to make it available for club member use.


Are the Imperial lug nuts different (larger) size that the rest of the clan's? If they are, then even if the plate could be enlarged and drilled for both 4.5" and 5.5" bolt circles, Les would have to supply two sets of nuts, etc. Probably not cost effective. I know I only want the 4.5" bolt circle stuff (and I would have ordered back in March but with the border closed to unimportant travel, shipping from Les to Canada might be prohibitive.)

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Sorry to hear that COVID affected the movement of goods to Canada in that manner. Now that things are opening up, you'll be more than pleased with the product you receive when you receive yours.

As for the diameter of the lugs themselves on vehicles with the 5.5" pattern, I'm not sure. My guess would be no simply based on the need to stock two size lugs but I may be entirely wrong. Maybe one of the more learned among us can enlighten us on that point.


The 550 studs are 9/16” not 1/2” in diameter and the nut cone taper is the same.
The Fairbanks puller is pretty much the same design as the ones we all homemade and used for years and pulled countless drums!! Works just fine!

I used mine until I found a Snap On puller in the trunk of a junkyard car I dragged home. It works too!!

Greg
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Posted 2020-06-09 2:11 PM (#599475 - in reply to #594955)
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Does this puller work on fronts also? Or just rears
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Posted 2020-06-09 2:48 PM (#599477 - in reply to #599436)
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LD3 Greg - 2020-06-09 12:03 AM

The 550 studs are 9/16” not 1/2” in diameter and the nut cone taper is the same.
The Fairbanks puller is pretty much the same design as the ones we all homemade and used for years and pulled countless drums!! Works just fine!

I used mine until I found a Snap On puller in the trunk of a junkyard car I dragged home. It works too!!

Greg


Thanks, Greg. Its always good to learn something new.

Take care!
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56D500boy
Posted 2020-06-09 3:18 PM (#599479 - in reply to #599475)
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Apollo 61 - 2020-06-09 11:11 AM
Does this puller work on fronts also? Or just rears


If you need a puller to remove the front drum(s), you have some big time problems. You might have to back off the brake adjustment but nothing more because the front drum/hub contains the inner and outer bearings.

The rear drums are keyed to the tapered axle and the axle runs in a rear bearing in the differential housing. Very different than the front.



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Apollo 61
Posted 2020-06-10 2:21 AM (#599493 - in reply to #599479)
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Apollo 61 - 2020-06-09 11:11 AM
Does this puller work on fronts also? Or just rears


If you need a puller to remove the front drum(s), you have some big time problems. You might have to back off the brake adjustment but nothing more because the front drum/hub contains the inner and outer bearings.

The rear drums are keyed to the tapered axle and the axle runs in a rear bearing in the differential housing. Very different than the front.

:)


I pick many vintage cars that have been sitting for decades in creeks and fields. Sometimes the shoes have bonded themselves to the drums. I usally remove the castle nut and they pop. Somtimes they don't.
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Posted 2020-06-10 11:53 AM (#599502 - in reply to #599493)
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I pick many vintage cars that have been sitting for decades in creeks and fields. Sometimes the shoes have bonded themselves to the drums. I usually remove the castle nut and they pop. Sometimes they don't.


Okay. Understood. In that case, I think that Les's puller would work (assuming that the bolt lengths are sufficient for the longer spindle (??). You could ask Les to confirm.

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Posted 2020-06-10 11:01 PM (#599532 - in reply to #594955)
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the heavy duty one on amazon worked well for me.

I was like holy chit... it was gonna snap but I waited overnight put some heat on it again the next day and it came off.

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