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Here we go again.... more mystery brake issues 61 fury
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Paul Hettick
Posted 2020-03-10 1:12 PM (#595466)
Subject: Here we go again.... more mystery brake issues 61 fury


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Everything new raybestos. Hoses. Linings that have been arched to the freshly turned drums. All new raybestos wheel cylinders. First 50 miles it stopped perfect. Now good at low speeds but hit the brakes over 35 mph and it vibrates like one of the front brake drums is broke in half. This is the second time I have run across this, the first time replaced everything 3 times with no difference. Not going to do a disc swap want to know whe the %@*&$$$$$%%%%! Is the deal. Have have done brake jobs on on other fwd look cars with center plane brakes using the same methods without issues. Thanks at my wits end with this nonsense.
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Paul Hettick
Posted 2020-03-10 1:16 PM (#595467 - in reply to #595466)
Subject: Re: Here we go again.... more mystery brake issues 61 fury


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Also has a completely rebuilt front end using moog parts and front end aligned.
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wizard
Posted 2020-03-10 3:28 PM (#595474 - in reply to #595466)
Subject: Re: Here we go again.... more mystery brake issues 61 fury



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modern brake lining turning to dust filling up the drum?
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Paul Hettick
Posted 2020-03-10 3:41 PM (#595476 - in reply to #595466)
Subject: Re: Here we go again.... more mystery brake issues 61 fury


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Only have about 60 miles on it since the brake overhaul. Hopefully not full of dust yet but u never know
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wizard
Posted 2020-03-10 4:44 PM (#595477 - in reply to #595466)
Subject: Re: Here we go again.... more mystery brake issues 61 fury



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I remember that some guys here had that problem. Just a short drive, the drum full of lining residue blocking the wheel
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Paul Hettick
Posted 2020-03-10 5:08 PM (#595480 - in reply to #595466)
Subject: Re: Here we go again.... more mystery brake issues 61 fury


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Wow that's a new one on me but anything's possible. I'll pull the drums and let you know what I find.
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mobileparts
Posted 2020-03-10 8:53 PM (#595484 - in reply to #595466)
Subject: Re: Here we go again.... more mystery brake issues 61 fury


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This new garbage friction material is famous for exactly what you have --
Because it is not nice smoooooth ++ Asbestos ++ the only way it can
Attempt to stop a vehicle is by gripping, grabbing, ripping, and shredding.....

You MUST use ++ N.O.S. ++ Asbestos ++ the only softest smoooooothest
Brake Surface to stop a real car.....

Fortunately, I have ++ N.O.S. ++ Asbestos ++ and absolutely everything
else in your brake system.......

Always best to simply call me --- Craig ---
516 - 485 - 1935 ....... New York......
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mobileparts
Posted 2020-03-10 8:56 PM (#595485 - in reply to #595466)
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You say "everything new raybestos" like that is a good thing....
Did you notice that EVERYTHING you bought was made in China ?????
And that Chineseum garbage is also filled with the coronavirus....
Wear a mask, wash your hands with soap for at least 20 seconds....
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1960fury
Posted 2020-03-11 8:10 AM (#595489 - in reply to #595480)
Subject: Re: Here we go again.... more mystery brake issues 61 fury



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Paul Hettick - 2020-03-10 5:08 PM

Wow that's a new one on me but anything's possible. I'll pull the drums and let you know what I find.


I'd start with tracing down the issue by blocking front/rear circuits and left/right. That is the only way to solve a problem. Then you know if it is a general problem, or just a single drum.
My guess is, it is the brake drums that got hot and distorted and even if you have them turned it is mostly not of help. Are the drums new (chinese) or OEM?

Edited by 1960fury 2020-03-11 8:12 AM
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jboymechanic
Posted 2020-03-11 9:01 AM (#595490 - in reply to #595466)
Subject: Re: Here we go again.... more mystery brake issues 61 fury



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Sid is right, you really need to isolate the issue to the particular wheel (or wheels) that are vibrating. Are you sure your drums are good? You don't have a crack that you can't see? Are your springs still wrapped around your drums?

I know you don't want to hear this, but one of the many reasons I went to disc brakes was that it felt like I had to re-adjust the drum brakes way to often for the number of mines I was putting on cars.
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Paul Hettick
Posted 2020-03-13 11:43 AM (#595563 - in reply to #595466)
Subject: Re: Here we go again.... more mystery brake issues 61 fury


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The car has OEM brake drums. I did find a big dent in the steel brake line going from the left to right front wheel. The vibration/ grinding is coming from the left front so there may be an imbalance of pressure. I'll change out the line and if that does not correct it I'll get the asbestos shoes. Thanks
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jboymechanic
Posted 2020-03-13 2:34 PM (#595570 - in reply to #595466)
Subject: Re: Here we go again.... more mystery brake issues 61 fury



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Ok, that is good that you have it narrowed down to one wheel. I would very closely inspect your drum and all other components. Check your rubber line on that side as well.
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60 dart
Posted 2020-03-13 3:53 PM (#595575 - in reply to #595466)
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you might want to check all the steering joints on that side also . sounds like you might have a bad/warped drum though -----------------------------------------later
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jboymechanic
Posted 2020-03-13 4:08 PM (#595577 - in reply to #595466)
Subject: Re: Here we go again.... more mystery brake issues 61 fury



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Good point Chuck. I would swap the front drums from left to right and right to left and see if the vibration follows the drum.
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