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Location: Brooklyn, NY | It’s not a scam. It was Gary’s. I bought it 3 months ago. |
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Location: Yorba Linda, Ca | I would have mentioned more about the 440 engine, Wally.
It has Edelbrock aluminum "performer heads",, puts out 476 HP
and runs on 87 gas. It has Edelbrock aluminum intake manifold,
brand new edelbrock 1906 carbs (Edelbrock's newest carbs).
It has MSD ignition.
I spent about $10,000 on the car just before I sold it to Walter.
Repair power seat, replace heater core (Thanks "Big M")
Replace main rear springs (new) smaller shackles rearced.
New 4 core radiator, new turn signal switch and cam mechanism.
New master brake cylinder, (car has front disc brakes).
New alternator & voltage regulator and thermal fuse.
Wiring "Cleaned up", under hood.
Valves were adjusted (it has adjustable rockers)
1st adjustment since engine installed about 10 years ago.
The engine still runs as brand new and never burns any oil.
The car is a great freeway cruiser as it has a 276 rear end
but will still smoke a tire off the line.
I hated to sell it, but at 77 years old , I just don't need
3 convertibles and the 1964 Polara 500 that I bought new.
Gary
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Location: Brooklyn, NY | Originally white |
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Location: Yorba Linda, Ca | The car came out of the factory as a white convertible with a blue top.
It came with the 326 poly and the extra cost torqueflite.
It was fairly well optioned for a Coronet.
The car was sold new in Pennsylvania.
I had sent Chrysler Historical the vin # and they sent me this info.
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Location: Ohio | What color was the original interior, also blue matching the top color ?
In my opinion the original white with blue top is much better combo than the red the car wears now. |
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Location: Yorba Linda, Ca | When I bought the car it was finished in black vinyl,poor quality
and in fact it was blue vinyl that had been dyed black, but the
blue material was no where near stock original equipment.
I highly suspects that the car's interior was pretty much like this one
as it appears to be original material style and color.
https://www.google.com/search?q=https://classiccars.com/listings/vie...
ot this one:
https://www.schmitt.com/inventory/ds-1959-dodge-coronet-lancer-2-doo...
Gary
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Location: Yorba Linda, Ca | The car sold yesterday (April 2, 2020) on Ebay for $49,000.
Well no more "Crocodile Tears" please about there not being any "affordable Chrysler Corp convertibles from 1955-1961!!!!
I doubt you will ever see a car in as perfect condition as the 59 Dodge was for even double the price.
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| Gary ,That was a Nice Car For the Money ,Has to be one of the Most sought after Forward Look Convertibles ,Wonder where it’s Headed to next ? Nice to Buy a Car you could Buy and Drive . |
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| 1959Dodge - 2020-04-03 11:19 AM
The car sold yesterday (April 2, 2020) on Ebay for $49,000.
Well no more "Crocodile Tears" please about there not being any "affordable Chrysler Corp convertibles from 1955-1961!!!!
I doubt you will ever see a car in as perfect condition as the 59 Dodge was for even double the price.
Gary
Gary, I'm sorry, I just have to disagree on this one. I saw the car in person. While it mechanically it may have been worked out, cosmetically, the car is a medium driver at best. I told you when I was out there what I thought it was worth. Throw in the Virus situation and that's about the best money you're going to see on it. That car is 100k in restoration from being in top form. |
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Location: Yorba Linda, Ca | I don't think we disagree, Mike, you told me you thought the car was worth about 50 grand and I sold it for 47k after deducting 3 grand to
pay for shipping it to Brooklyn.
I think you would be "hard pressed" to find another 55-61 mopar convertible for anywhere near that price
especially in the mechanical condition my former car was in.
How many 55-61 mopars do you see here with a 440 engine and the aluminum Edelbrock heads?
476 HP on 87 octane and no blower, pretty rare for any 55-61 mopar, don't ya think?
I probably should have swapped that engine with the 413 I have in my 64 Dodge before I sold the 59.
I was not complaining about the price I sold the car for, but there used to be numerous posts about
not being able to find "affordable" mopar convertibles IE under 75 grand.
The only reason I sold the 59 was "Happy Wife, Happy Life". I only have a 3 car garage and the wife did not
want her 93 Allante sitting outside. Obviously the 58 Chrysler New Yorker convertible was not gonna lose its
space in the garage, nor the 1964 Dodge that I bought brand new when I was a 21 year old kid.
Soooo, yep, we kept the 93 Allante and sold the 59 Dodge due to HWHL!!!!
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Location: Lower Mainland BC | 1959Dodge - 2020-03-28 5:55 PM
The car came out of the factory as a white convertible with a blue top.
It came with the 326 poly and the extra cost torqueflite.
It was fairly well optioned for a Coronet.
The car was sold new in Pennsylvania.
I had sent Chrysler Historical the vin # and they sent me this info.
Based on 3.5 years on this forum, I would say that folks here would be more impressed by the car if it had remained white with blue top and 326 than red with black top and a dual quad 440.
It might be a nice car but all those non-OE things don't really impress folks here.
Not to say that it does impress some folks, just not likely the ones here.
Just sayin' 
BTW by the time Covid-19 has knocked out a significant portion of the age group that can relate to and be interested in buying these Forward Look cars, the market for them will be in the toilet.
Just sayin' 
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Location: NY & VT | I agree with Dave in all respects. With original drivetrain and colors it would have been worth more IMO.
I also agree that the FL market, and ALL car markets, is going to crash. When unemployment hits 20+%, and it will, no one will be buying automotive toys except maybe the mega-yacht crowd. Enjoy your cars as cars and not investments because this economy is not going to re-gain much of what it has now lost, ever. It's going to be very different from 2008 this time, many businesses will never re-open, sadly. My daughter just laid off 30 people and closed 4 stores, which may never re-open. Even housing prices are going to plummet, which may at least be a good thing for average folks, and if vintage cars lose most of their value it's fine by me. |
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Location: NY & VT | BTW you made the right choice Gray, I'd have kept the '58 NYer too, here's a pic of the one we had some years ago:
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Location: Ferndale, WA 98248 | I don't share all the doom and gloom forever. I've been a banker for 40 years, and studied US economic cycles over the last century. The economy ALWAYS comes back, its just a question of how long it takes each time. Sure, not every sector comes back as before, so yes there will be lots of businesses that will not survive. But they will eventually be replaced by new ones. Before the 2008 crash, the Dow peaked at $14,000, before sinking to about $6,500. Today, even after plummeting over the last few weeks, the Dow is at $21,000. If you had just held your stocks from the $14,000 peak in 2008, you would still be up 50% now. If you bought your stocks at the $6,500 bottom, you'd be up 320% today. If you bought your stocks 2 months ago, well you bought at the wrong time and hopefully you can hang onto them until the market recovers. I'm certainly not saying this COVID down cycle is good thing, a lot of people are going to get hurt financially. But we will come out the other side at some point.
As for the 59 Dodge convert, sure it would be worth more if all original and completely restored. But maybe not to buyers who actually want to enjoy the car and drive it and not just have a garage trophy. Most of us neither want or can afford over restored trailer queens. That car could not built today for $50K - if you could even find one to build to start with. Personally, I like that it has a roaring 440 and disc brakes, and if I could have connected with Walter before the auction ended I probably would have bid on it.
My 3 cents for the day....
Live Long and Prosper!
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Location: So. Cal | If I had that kind of money to spare, I would have bought it. I prefer small bore motors with large stroke, but I could live with the 440. I'm just impressed with the underhood structure on the '59 Dodge - pretty cool! |
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Location: Lower Mainland BC | Powerflite - 2020-04-04 3:14 PM
I'm just impressed with the underhood structure on the '59 Dodge - pretty cool!
Now that you bring it up, I was confused by that center bar off the underhood support structure. Does NOT look factory to me. (??)
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Location: NY & VT | I think it was a good buy at $49k, just that it would have brought more in original colors, interior and drivetrain, not necessarily as a show queen.
Glad there are some optimistic for a complete recovery, I don't share it, and whatever recovery there is imo will take longer than '08. Just because cycles have been true in the past does not mean the same will always happen in the future.
The fracking industry is all that held up reasonably priced energy supplies here and it's been losing huge money, even before this virus. A family member just retired as a Petroleum Geologist for 35 years for Saudi-Aramco, the worlds biggest oil producer. Economic growth since 1900 has been based on really cheap oil, and that is gone forever, there is no more cheaply recovered oil anymore in the US or Canada, what there is is in Venezuela, Russia, and some of the Middle East, and there's not enough cheap oil for the entire world to function as it has been. Prices have dropped due to slashed demand, not increased supply, which will further depress supply, Opec can't agree to cut as some members need the money, and low prices kill incentive to drill. The oil industry is in dire straits. Add in our financialized Ponzi financial system, lack of retail demand from 20% unemployment, a healthcare system on it's knees from this virus, disrupted supply chains, geopolitical chaos, and any "recovery" will be very different this time... YMMV, And if as a result my car's value drops 80%, machts nichts.
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Location: Upplands Väsby, Sweden | We met Gary in 2013 at Pomona when we also got to go with Dodge 59. It went incredibly well and it was powerful. Nice memory.
The second time we met Gary we had to go with the New Yorker 58 conv. 
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Location: NY & VT | It was a good buy for someone not wanting all original, it's a great looking car. A ride in that beast would be a real experience!
Unlike a few (cough.. cough.. Brett) I've come to appreciate '59s a lot.
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