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kennygs72
Posted 2020-05-12 10:27 AM (#598139)
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Is they any difference in the brake pedals them self between power and non power brakes?, Thanks Kenny
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56D500boy
Posted 2020-05-12 12:55 PM (#598147 - in reply to #598139)
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kennygs72 - 2020-05-12 7:27 AM
Is they any difference in the brake pedals them self between power and non power brakes?, Thanks Kenny


The rubber covering on the Power Brake-equipped cars says "POWER BRAKE".

REFERENCE: http://www.lov2xlr8.no/brochures/plymouth/ply8/ply8.html



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kennygs72
Posted 2020-05-12 12:58 PM (#598148 - in reply to #598147)
Subject: RE: 1958 Plymouth brake pedal


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56D500boy - 2020-05-12 12:55 PM

kennygs72 - 2020-05-12 7:27 AM
Is they any difference in the brake pedals them self between power and non power brakes?, Thanks Kenny


The rubber covering on the Power Brake-equipped cars says "POWER BRAKE".

REFERENCE: http://www.lov2xlr8.no/brochures/plymouth/ply8/ply8.html





But other that they are the same?, They both would have the bracket attached for the power brake booster?, Thanks again Kenny
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mstrug
Posted 2020-05-12 12:59 PM (#598150 - in reply to #598139)
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Smaller if you have a manual transmission.
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57chizler
Posted 2020-05-12 2:30 PM (#598156 - in reply to #598139)
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kennygs72 - 2020-05-12 7:27 AM

Is they any difference in the brake pedals them self between power and non power brakes?, Thanks Kenny


Do you mean just the rubber pad on the pedal or the entire pedal arm? Lots of difference between the pedal arm for power and manual; mostly the pedal ratio.
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kennygs72
Posted 2020-05-12 3:51 PM (#598158 - in reply to #598156)
Subject: RE: 1958 Plymouth brake pedal


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57chizler - 2020-05-12 2:30 PM

kennygs72 - 2020-05-12 7:27 AM

Is they any difference in the brake pedals them self between power and non power brakes?, Thanks Kenny


Do you mean just the rubber pad on the pedal or the entire pedal arm? Lots of difference between the pedal arm for power and manual; mostly the pedal ratio.


I meant the pedal arm for auto trans. Is there a difference between power on non power?, Thanks Kenny
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ronbo97
Posted 2020-05-12 5:43 PM (#598163 - in reply to #598158)
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kennygs72 - 2020-05-12 3:51 PM I meant the pedal arm for auto trans. Is there a difference between power on non power?, Thanks Kenny

Yes. A different setup. If you are converting to P/Bs, then you need the pedal assembly from a power brake car. Also, the vacuum port for the intake manifold.

Ron

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kennygs72
Posted 2020-05-13 12:19 PM (#598195 - in reply to #598163)
Subject: RE: 1958 Plymouth brake pedal


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ronbo97 - 2020-05-12 5:43 PM

kennygs72 - 2020-05-12 3:51 PM I meant the pedal arm for auto trans. Is there a difference between power on non power?, Thanks Kenny

Yes. A different setup. If you are converting to P/Bs, then you need the pedal assembly from a power brake car. Also, the vacuum port for the intake manifold.

Ron



Thank you, what is a power brake setup going for these days?, Thanks kenny
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57plymouth
Posted 2020-05-13 12:36 PM (#598200 - in reply to #598139)
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Contact John Fowlie at Big M Auto Parts. He has a bunch of FL cars and can set you up. He's honest and reasonable.
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57chizler
Posted 2020-05-13 1:12 PM (#598203 - in reply to #598195)
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If you intend to use factory PB's, the pedal is boosted from above the pivot. If you aren't concerned with originality, an aftermarket booster and MC can be installed in place of the existing MC. A lot simpler and cleaner appearing.
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kennygs72
Posted 2020-05-13 1:34 PM (#598207 - in reply to #598203)
Subject: RE: 1958 Plymouth brake pedal


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57chizler - 2020-05-13 1:12 PM

If you intend to use factory PB's, the pedal is boosted from above the pivot. If you aren't concerned with originality, an aftermarket booster and MC can be installed in place of the existing MC. A lot simpler and cleaner appearing.


This is what i am thinking of doing , my basket case did come with what appears to be complet power brake set up not really sure i want to use it though. Thank you
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mstrug
Posted 2020-05-13 6:43 PM (#598233 - in reply to #598139)
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Which engine are you going to use? if it is wide; a kick up master might be needed like for a dart/cuda with a hemi or something like that. 318 LA should be O.K. 318 Poly is another matter.
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kennygs72
Posted 2020-05-14 7:04 AM (#598247 - in reply to #598233)
Subject: Re: 1958 Plymouth brake pedal


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mstrug - 2020-05-13 6:43 PM

Which engine are you going to use? if it is wide; a kick up master might be needed like for a dart/cuda with a hemi or something like that. 318 LA should be O.K. 318 Poly is another matter.


it currently has a low milage '66 440 in it , but i'm not sure that is going to stay either.
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Powerflite
Posted 2020-05-14 10:57 AM (#598251 - in reply to #598203)
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57chizler - 2020-05-13 10:12 AM
... an aftermarket booster and MC can be installed in place of the existing MC. A lot simpler and cleaner appearing.


I disagree. Doing this is anything but clean, and not really simpler either, depending on the motor.
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57chizler
Posted 2020-05-14 2:45 PM (#598266 - in reply to #598251)
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Well, I guess "clean" is in the eye of the beholder. The factory bellows booster sitting over the MC cover with the associated huge vacuum tank/hoses is butt ugly IMHO.
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Powerflite
Posted 2020-05-14 3:53 PM (#598271 - in reply to #598139)
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If you could fit a large diameter booster snug up against the firewall with the master mounted to it down at the proper height, then I would think it was clean. But having a small, long dual stage booster with the master pointed up at a 10 to 20 degree angle or on a raised pedestal mount is far uglier than having a tank on your fender. And the bellows has a unique awesome quality to it that can't be compared to others, but obviously, opinions differ.
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