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57FURYESTATE
Posted 2020-05-21 11:00 AM (#598577)
Subject: little value advice on an Estate 57 Fury


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We have a very nice 57 Fury in an estate but cant seem to find many online for sale or sold. photos below, I welcome any info that I should know



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ronbo97
Posted 2020-05-21 7:17 PM (#598598 - in reply to #598577)
Subject: RE: little value advice on an Estate 57 Fury


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More pictures ? Interior, engine, dash, trunk, etc. Also, does it run ? If so, can you drive it outside and do some photos ? The images will be sharper and we can see if the paint is white or beige.

Since there are size limitations for posting pictures on this site, why don't you create an album on google photos and post the link here ?

Ron

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Suddenlyits1960!
Posted 2020-05-21 8:38 PM (#598599 - in reply to #598598)
Subject: RE: little value advice on an Estate 57 Fury



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He added a couple more photos in the thread he started in cars for sale” section as well as the asking price.
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57FURYESTATE
Posted 2020-05-21 9:10 PM (#598605 - in reply to #598598)
Subject: RE: little value advice on an Estate 57 Fury


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Yes it runs/drives and I did post some photos in the other classified section under 57 fury for sale.

The car is at the estate home still so I will get there and take more photos soon

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Posted 2020-05-21 10:05 PM (#598607 - in reply to #598577)
Subject: Re: little value advice on an Estate 57 Fury


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take it to Barrett Jackson... or Mecum..
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2020-05-21 10:16 PM (#598608 - in reply to #598577)
Subject: RE: little value advice on an Estate 57 Fury



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They say values for 1950's cars are falling, generally speaking - so that's something to consider.  This is a top-of-th-line Fury.  1957 is a great model year but maybe not as popular as the 1958 (commonly assoiciated with the movie).  Still, the 1956 - 1958 Furys are the premium, generally speaking. After 1958, the Fury became a model, akin to the previous Belvederes.  It looks to be in very nice condition, but I can't see everything from the images posted.  I would place it in the $40 - $65 thousand dollar range and let you decide where it falls within.

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Lancer Mike
Posted 2020-05-21 10:20 PM (#598609 - in reply to #598608)
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...all that and we are in the midst of a recession unlike anything we have seen.  Luxury items, such as the value of collector vehicles, being extremely vulnerable to recessions.

 

Translation: if someone offers $60K - take the money and run!

Someone offers $45K - consider that in six months time, you might be lucky to get $30K!

 

 



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Lancer Mike
Posted 2020-05-21 10:33 PM (#598610 - in reply to #598609)
Subject: RE: little value advice on an Estate 57 Fury



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So I just saw the other thread with the images of the steering wheel, the paint cracks on the rear deck, and the headliner bow.  Those are indicators that $60K is most likely not a reasonable expectation, but you never know!



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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2020-05-22 1:09 AM (#598613 - in reply to #598610)
Subject: RE: little value advice on an Estate 57 Fury



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Cars like this are best used for plugging ditches and riverbank erosion control.
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miquelonbrad
Posted 2020-05-22 8:29 AM (#598620 - in reply to #598577)
Subject: Re: little value advice on an Estate 57 Fury



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Doc...but I thought you said you were in the market for a Fury...
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jboymechanic
Posted 2020-05-22 9:27 AM (#598621 - in reply to #598577)
Subject: Re: little value advice on an Estate 57 Fury



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This one sold for just under $24,000 not long ago, probably the most recent data available on Fury sales.

http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=71953&...
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Suddenlyits1960!
Posted 2020-05-22 9:57 AM (#598622 - in reply to #598621)
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jboymechanic - 2020-05-22 9:27 AM

This one sold for just under $24,000 not long ago, probably the most recent data available on Fury sales.

http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=71953&...


Wow! That one was a steal. Closest 57 Fury to that pricewise right now is this one from “ted’s tuna boats” for $29,950. It has the wrong engine and the interior would need work.

https://classics.autotrader.com/classic-cars/1957/plymouth/fury/1012...

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Suddenlyits1960!
Posted 2020-05-22 10:06 AM (#598623 - in reply to #598621)
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jboymechanic - 2020-05-22 9:27 AM

This one sold for just under $24,000 not long ago, probably the most recent data available on Fury sales.

http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=71953&...


I just noticed something about the 57 Fury in your link. It has a 1958 style dash mirror. Weren’t all 1957 mirrors mounted near the bottom of windshield where the trim is around the dash? This car has the 58 style with the mount placed toward the edge of the dash.
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57FURYESTATE
Posted 2020-05-22 11:31 AM (#598627 - in reply to #598577)
Subject: Re: little value advice on an Estate 57 Fury


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I appreciate all of the feedback... other than the 24k comment, none of the info surprises me. If I get someone serious about the car, we can dig further into its history etc. The owner did own one of the movie Christine cars for many years. I hope I'm not misrepresenting the year as it was told to me that its a 57....Ill check the paperwork next time im at the estate and get more interior and underneath photos for those asking. I assumed the cracked steering wheel was a signal that it could have been a southern car originally. It has been garaged in climate control for the past 35yrs.

keep the info coming, I appreciate it!
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Suddenlyits1960!
Posted 2020-05-22 12:26 PM (#598628 - in reply to #598577)
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The fury you’re selling is a 1957. My question about the rearview mirror placement was about the 57 fury in Canada that sold for under $24k,not your car. Your car has the correct 57 style mirror and placement.
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57FURYESTATE
Posted 2020-05-22 3:53 PM (#598635 - in reply to #598577)
Subject: Re: little value advice on an Estate 57 Fury


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thanks for the clarification! enjoy the weekend!
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Finsinthemirror
Posted 2020-05-22 9:27 PM (#598646 - in reply to #598635)
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The 24k Fury in the link.. it's likely correct but you'd need to see the build sheet to know for sure. If you look at the A-pillar stainless it's 58 style, the dash mirror is in 58 location, and the ignition is 58 as well so I'd venture a guess that it's a late build. I've seen that stuff before on late build 57's. Trivial things IMO but it is too bad the dash had to be repainted, never seen that original "scotch-grain" paint successfully replicated.
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Suddenlyits1960!
Posted 2020-05-22 9:51 PM (#598651 - in reply to #598646)
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Thanks for the clearing up the mystery. I had also noticed it has 1958 style instrument panel bezel and trim. I was assuming that it was possibly a late production model built during the transition to the 58’s but had never seen that before on a 57.
I couldn’t see someone changing out the entire dash just to change the mirror location.

Now you’ve got me curious,what other late production anomalies have you seen? Were there any late model 57’s with 58 fender spears? a 58 style lower valance?
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Finsinthemirror
Posted 2020-05-22 10:06 PM (#598652 - in reply to #598651)
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I wouldn't say I cleared it up, it's speculation at best. You'd need the build sheet and even then with a car this old... that's a lot of age to cover anything being changed at some point and since it was restored it begs the question of what shape it was in prior to the restoration. I just see that A-pillar trim is 58 which is different than 57, I think the sides and upper windshield piece was different but I'm not sure. I've seen these things on a few 57's before. Just the anomalies that are on this car really, small insignificant things. Personally, if they are original to the car I think they add character.
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56D500boy
Posted 2020-05-22 10:15 PM (#598654 - in reply to #598652)
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What these cracks represent (Bondo???) would potentially scare me off:



REFERENCE: http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=73918&...



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Suddenlyits1960!
Posted 2020-05-22 10:35 PM (#598655 - in reply to #598652)
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Finsinthemirror - 2020-05-22 10:06 PM

I wouldn't say I cleared it up, it's speculation at best. You'd need the build sheet and even then with a car this old... that's a lot of age to cover anything being changed at some point and since it was restored it begs the question of what shape it was in prior to the restoration. I just see that A-pillar trim is 58 which is different than 57, I think the sides and upper windshield piece was different but I'm not sure. I've seen these things on a few 57's before. Just the anomalies that are on this car really, small insignificant things. Personally, if they are original to the car I think they add character.


Hopefully some members here with late production 57’s will chime in with more info to try and clear this up. You’ve got a good point about not knowing what condition the car was in before being restored and what pieces could have been missing. Maybe the entire dash was gone and they took one from a 58. Who knows.
I actually like the 58 style mirror a little better than the 57 style.
I am just curious to know if any 57’ Plymouth’s ever left the factory this way. Was this something chrysler did during late 57 production?

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ronbo97
Posted 2020-05-22 10:58 PM (#598656 - in reply to #598646)
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Finsinthemirror - 2020-05-22 9:27 PM The 24k Fury in the link.. it's likely correct but you'd need to see the build sheet to know for sure. If you look at the A-pillar stainless it's 58 style, the dash mirror is in 58 location, and the ignition is 58 as well so I'd venture a guess that it's a late build. I've seen that stuff before on late build 57's. Trivial things IMO but it is too bad the dash had to be repainted, never seen that original "scotch-grain" paint successfully replicated.

I'd venture to guess that since it's been restored, they owner just did whatever he wanted. All these assumptions that having incorrect parts on the car is what came from the factory is wild speculation.

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Posted 2020-05-23 12:56 AM (#598658 - in reply to #598656)
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ronbo97 - 2020-05-22 10:58 PM

Finsinthemirror - 2020-05-22 9:27 PM The 24k Fury in the link.. it's likely correct but you'd need to see the build sheet to know for sure. If you look at the A-pillar stainless it's 58 style, the dash mirror is in 58 location, and the ignition is 58 as well so I'd venture a guess that it's a late build. I've seen that stuff before on late build 57's. Trivial things IMO but it is too bad the dash had to be repainted, never seen that original "scotch-grain" paint successfully replicated.

I'd venture to guess that since it's been restored, they owner just did whatever he wanted. All these assumptions that having incorrect parts on the car is what came from the factory is wild speculation.

Ron



If you read his last post,he said the same thing himself. “I wouldn't say I cleared it up, it's speculation at best.”
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Finsinthemirror
Posted 2020-05-23 12:35 PM (#598678 - in reply to #598577)
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All of what I said is certainly speculation however, I have seen anomalous things on late cars and with upholstery on 58's belvedere hardtops which isn't speculation and I would argue was factory. The A pillar windshield trim on the car we're talking about isn't speculation, the mounting tabs are literally spot welded in different locations on the body between 57-58 hardtop trim. I can't see any reason to do that to put 58 trim on a 57 (especially since 57 plym/dodge share the same trim which makes it easier to find than 58 trim) which I have seen a very few times as well as the other things mentioned and what they seem to have in common is late build. As I previously said, 60+ years is a LOT of time to cover and certainly anything could have happened in that time, condition of the car pre-resto is an important consideration too. I take it with a grain of salt.. no big deal one way or the other IMO.
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57FURYESTATE
Posted 2020-05-26 7:39 AM (#598801 - in reply to #598577)
Subject: Re: little value advice on an Estate 57 Fury


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is anyone interested in making an offer or???
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