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billy
Posted 2020-06-12 12:14 PM (#599569)
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Good afternoon fellow forward lookers. Hope all are staying safe in these questionable times we are experiencing. The time has come for me to replace my OEM fabric headliner. I have new stuff from SMS (door panels, kick panels, carpet, windlace, seat fabrics etc. Any words of wisdom on replacing the headliner? The interior is currently gutted and I'm thinking the headliner should go in 1st, before carpet. door panels etc...from what i have read, this does not appear to be a fun job. Can anybody share some do's and don'ts on replacing a fabric headliner?
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56D500boy
Posted 2020-06-12 12:41 PM (#599573 - in reply to #599569)
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57 Chrysler headliner installation is covered in the Factory Service Manual (FSM) starting on page 388 in the hard copy or 390 of 458 in the pdf FSM available for download at MyMopar.com:

http://www.mymopar.com/index.php?pid=109

Download. Open. Save in a folder that you can find again. Use.

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mikes2nd
Posted 2020-06-13 9:40 AM (#599615 - in reply to #599569)
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feel the burn!!
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samstrader
Posted 2020-06-13 6:28 PM (#599632 - in reply to #599569)
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I worked at an upholstery shop for a while and replaced the cloth headliner in my 1955 Plymouth. In my car, the back windshield had to be removed.

Step one is to carefully lay out your existing headliner to use as a pattern to cut your new headliner. Be sure not to lose any of the rods and rod ends.

Cut it out and sew on the strips that hold the headliner on the rods and then sew the headliner together.

Start installing at the front and use weldwood contact cement to glue the headliner on the front. Then stretch the headliner back and workout all of the wrinkles as you work back and install the rods one at a time.

Use weldwood to glue the headliner to the sides and the back as you work back. Be careful not to get glue on the fabric.

Then install the window surrounds and the back windshield. This is not a big a job as it looks like. it is just an uncomfortable body position even with all the seats out of the car. The job takes about 2 hours for a professional but you should go slow and count on a whole day to do the job. Go slow, stretch the fabric a lot of times to make it smooth and take a lot of breaks.
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mikes2nd
Posted 2020-06-13 8:34 PM (#599636 - in reply to #599569)
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does anyone have the measurements? I need to get some perforated blue for mine
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billy
Posted 2020-06-14 3:14 PM (#599658 - in reply to #599569)
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Thanks guys...i had the manual all along and didn't know this was in there....Mike you need measurements for a 4 door? I'll try and get those for you...the one i bought from SMS came to size with the bow pockets sewed in and tail pieces down the back...
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mikes2nd
Posted 2020-06-14 11:08 PM (#599674 - in reply to #599569)
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eh i need 2 door measurements :(  to convert from the fiberboard to the cloth...

I can probably rough it i guess... ouch.



Edited by mikes2nd 2020-06-14 11:09 PM
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miquelonbrad
Posted 2020-06-15 8:44 AM (#599694 - in reply to #599569)
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And when it says to remove the windows...remove the windows. I disassembled three '57 Chryslers in the last few years, and made notes while doing it, to see what order components were installed. The headliner seems to have been put in before all windows, trims, etc were installed. And from what I've seen others experience doing this job, there was a reason. It's not fun...
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billy
Posted 2020-06-15 12:02 PM (#599700 - in reply to #599569)
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I pulled the headliner down Saturday morning before reading any of these posts...I don't think the rear window has to come out, but i wish i pulled the back push out windows 1st. I broke a latch trying to get it out...live and learn....like a man asking for directions....we ask after we are lost...:)
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billy
Posted 2020-07-04 8:23 AM (#600487 - in reply to #599569)
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Anybody have a source for interior clips? One on left holds the bar with teeth to catch the headliner to the roof of the car, the 1 on the right holds the windlace...
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56D500boy
Posted 2020-07-04 10:44 AM (#600489 - in reply to #600487)
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billy - 2020-07-04 5:23 AM Anybody have a source for interior clips? One on left holds the bar with teeth to catch the headliner to the roof of the car, the 1 on the right holds the windlace...
thanks,


Poke around the Auveco website. You will likely find what you need.

https://www.auveco.com/clips-fasteners

The right one is here:

https://www.auveco.com/weatherstrip-retainers

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57chizler
Posted 2020-07-04 11:18 AM (#600491 - in reply to #599694)
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miquelonbrad - 2020-06-15 5:44 AM

And when it says to remove the windows...remove the windows.


Few upholstery shops do that nowadays because of fear they will damage the glass or the hardened rubber gaskets. They use a dulled putty knife to shove the glued material under the gasket.
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Foreplarks
Posted 2020-09-02 3:50 AM (#602819 - in reply to #599569)
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great
56D500boy thans for link
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mikes2nd
Posted 2020-09-02 4:47 PM (#602850 - in reply to #599569)
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these maybe?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Upholstery-Trim-Clips-For-79-Up-GM-Qty-25-7...
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