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jaded13640
Posted 2020-06-27 4:22 PM (#600190)
Subject: I have a VERY worn manual steering gear...


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My 57 Dodge Suburban has a VERY sloppy manual steering gear.

I know about adjusting them but this one is far too loose.

Are there kits out there to rebuild them?

Can anyone pass on some info on how to rebuild them, what goes bad inside, where I might buy replacement pieces?

Might it be more prudent to buy an entire gear? If so, where might I get one?

Thanks,

Wayne
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56D500boy
Posted 2020-06-27 4:41 PM (#600193 - in reply to #600190)
Subject: RE: I have a VERY worn manual steering gear...



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60 dart
Posted 2020-06-27 5:19 PM (#600197 - in reply to #600190)
Subject: Re: I have a VERY worn manual steering gear...



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i just did my 60 dart as it was worn and full of rust . it started as stuck , yes stuck with muscle being needed to free it up . so i pulled it , opened it up to see the damage . it was beyond help for both gears but
i had bought a spare not long ago just in case . i opened it up to see a not too bad interior . i still went ahead for a rebuild and had a hard time finding all chrysler nos parts but i did . they are really hard to find
and is not one stop shopping . if i ever need a manual steering gear done again it will be done by people in the know . for a pro rebuild it would have cost at a minimum 279$ plus the trip both ways . what i
have in it at this point all totaled is @ 250$ and hours of aggravation . but in the end though i know all new parts are nos mopar . two things will also help make things easier removing and reinstalling , get a helper
and slide the column up out of the way for more wiggle room ---------------------------------------------------------later


these are the people i really should have gone to

http://www.powersteering.com/manual-steering-gearbox-rebuilds

Edited by 60 dart 2020-06-27 5:21 PM
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jaded13640
Posted 2020-06-28 12:17 AM (#600214 - in reply to #600190)
Subject: Re: I have a VERY worn manual steering gear...


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WOW, that's a ton of information. Yea, I suspected this might actually be one of those times I have to find a little humility and send it to someone that knows all about it.

Thanks,

Wayne
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Mike P
Posted 2020-06-29 6:19 PM (#600310 - in reply to #600190)
Subject: Re: I have a VERY worn manual steering gear...


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For what it's worth the manual gear in my 57 Plymouth was pretty loose and the adjustment was run all the way in. A couple of years ago I looked into having it rebuilt ( I couldn't find a used gear that was any tighter than the one I had).

Benchworks up in Phoenix AZ was who I checked with.........they have done a few steering gears for me over the years and I've always been happy with their work. They quoted me a price of $350 plus return shipping (again this was a couple of years ago). I don't know if they would sell just the parts. It is who I would recommend.

https://benchworksteering.com/contact/shipping-policy/

I ended up doing a You Turn PS conversion.

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jaded13640
Posted 2020-06-29 11:06 PM (#600317 - in reply to #600190)
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Thank you Mike! I'll look at that.

Wayne
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Mr. Bob
Posted 2020-07-02 9:36 PM (#600440 - in reply to #600317)
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If manual steering cars have the same rubber isolator on the steering column that power steering cars have I'd start there. I had the PS gear box in my 60 Fury rebuilt, and the steering was still way too loose. Swapped out that little $15 rubber isolator, and that did the trick.
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60 dart
Posted 2020-07-02 11:46 PM (#600449 - in reply to #600190)
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manual has a rag joint -------------------------------------------later
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Mike P
Posted 2020-07-03 12:23 PM (#600460 - in reply to #600190)
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Actually on 57-58 Dodges and Plymouth's the worm gear is attached to the steering shaft that goes all the way to the steering wheel......no joints of isolators, just a bearing at the top of the steering column.
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60 dart
Posted 2020-07-03 4:27 PM (#600470 - in reply to #600190)
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seems to be presumptive of me , i stand corrected ------------------------------------------------later
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