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Powerflite
Posted 2021-03-21 11:30 AM (#610200 - in reply to #602173)
Subject: Re: Rose / White '56 Belvedere 2dr Hardtop



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Thanks Jim. I'm not very good with videos, but I'll give it a shot once I get it closer to being driveable. I did get a replacement fuel line from MoparPro, we'll see how it goes.

The home-made PCV setup that was on here was leaking terribly. The hoses were bad, one of the connections was loose, and the restrictor valve wasn't sealed well. So I intended to take it all out and replace it with some steel lines. But I couldn't do that because the connections to the intake aren't threaded. They are just jammed in there. I didn't want to thread the intake now and risk getting metal in the motor so I used some JB weld and epoxied them back in and replaced valve and the hoses. It's ugly, I know, but it'll have to do for now. I also cleaned up the hood hinges & sprayed the new springs from Ebay an appropriate color.



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Powerflite
Posted 2021-03-21 11:46 AM (#610202 - in reply to #602173)
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I also cleaned up the floors yesterday to see where they stand. They aren't as good as I had hoped they would be, unfortunately. The right side is worse than the left, and has rusted through multiple layers into the top of the rocker. Thankfully, the rear floors are pretty clean. Because there aren't really good replacement panels available, I will likely patch this with multiple small panels to get it looking right afterward. That's required anyway to get all the layers done right at the hole above the rocker. The driver's side should be a lot easier to do. Because I am determined to get this car drive-able, I will go ahead and do the floor repair work now.



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Posted 2021-03-21 2:14 PM (#610205 - in reply to #610200)
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Nathan: Did you add the newly painted hood springs to the newly cleaned and painted hood hinges when the hinges were off the car? If so, how did you stretch the spring the needed 1.5" or so to do that? (I'm going to work on my second set of hinges and springs (all off the car) and would appreciate a method that is simpler than my Sven-inspired threaded hood spring "jack"

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Powerflite
Posted 2021-03-21 2:47 PM (#610206 - in reply to #602173)
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Yep, stick the flat flange end of the hinge in a vice (with cloth so it doesn't ruin the paint), put the top end of the spring in position on the hinge, put a thick wire like a clothes hanger on the bottom part of the spring, wear heavy gloves, put your foot on the vice for leverage, and pull the wire to bring the spring to the proper position. It's amazing that the wire (& gloves) allows you to pull with much more force than you can otherwise apply to it.

I used the same approach to replace the spring on my gold New Yorker without removing the hood nor hinge. I stood on a chair with my knee on the back of the hinge for leverage, and pulled up on the wire to install the upper point of the spring on the hinge. And a similar approach to replace the broken spring on my yellow Fury, but the hood was already removed, so it was easier.

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Powerflite
Posted 2021-03-23 12:40 AM (#610266 - in reply to #602173)
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I found this tag behind both rear arm rest panels. It looks like it would have had more information on it at one point, but these just have the 1554273 part number on them....which I can't find in the '55-'58 catalog. The meaning of LA seems obvious as this car was manufactured in the Los Angeles plant, but I wish I knew what NAFI stood for. National Automotive Fabrics Industry? That's my best guess.



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Powerflite
Posted 2021-03-28 12:13 AM (#610448 - in reply to #602173)
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The problem with fixing rust is it extends to every layer. You peel back more and more to reveal more problems. But I've figured it will take about 8 patches on the right side with the different layers and 4 or 5 on the left. Would be a lot easier if good replacement panels were available, but oh well.

I cut the main patch from the rear floor of my '57 New Yorker parts car. I used the section which has the two beads extending up onto the tunnel. I had to extend the beads a little after I cut it out, but it was pretty easy with them already formed there. I had to fix the holes in it from removing the under floor brace and modify the bend a little to fit properly. I also had to add the step into the side of it. Since it's relatively small, I was able to add those bends using my vice, and then cleaned up the bends with an elevated anvil. I've got it mostly welded into the floor now, but I've still got to clean it up. Next, I'll patch in the large hole at the top of the rocker & fix the pocket for the body mount.

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westaus29
Posted 2021-03-28 9:25 AM (#610453 - in reply to #602173)
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Like Shrek says, they are like onions, they have layers! I had fun doing the sills on my 55 wagon, 4 layers deep around the rear doglegs, was lucky enough to get some sill repair panels bent up by a local trailer fabrication shop for $40. Rebuilding the 29 Plymouth was a breeze by comparison.



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Posted 2021-03-28 3:42 PM (#610464 - in reply to #602173)
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I've done the exact same job,both sides on my 55' wagon,so I know how difficult and time consuming it is. Luckily I found a very kind guy in Nebraska who sent me lots of panels in better shape from a car he butchered..but,you are moving fast forward Nathan,so you'll get there !
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Rahhstah
Posted 2021-04-01 2:19 PM (#610597 - in reply to #609582)
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Powerflite - 2021-03-07 12:29 AM
I replaced the distributor with an electronic one, an HEI module, and a powerful E-core coil, gave it some fresh oil and gas in the carb, and put a battery in it for the first time.


This caught my attention as I'm working on getting my 56 running again and following your thread, what is the HEI modeul & E-Core coil?

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Powerflite
Posted 2021-04-01 2:50 PM (#610598 - in reply to #602173)
Subject: Re: Rose / White '56 Belvedere 2dr Hardtop



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The later electronic ignition small block distributors are a direct drop in replacement in the '56 Plymouth poly motor. So I use one of them, but couple it with a GM HEI ignition module that I mount to the bottom of the distributor. The remaining 2 connections go to the coil. So no ignition box that I have to mount on my firewall or fender. Works really well and eliminates the required ballast, with an appropriate coil. This 60103 coil from Pertronix has very low .32 ohms primary resistance to provide lots of power. It allows me to open the spark plug gap up to .052", depending on compression ratio. I make and sell the conversions on my website here. http://www.designed2drive.com/




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Powerflite
Posted 2021-04-04 12:40 AM (#610680 - in reply to #602173)
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Thanks Jim and Geir, just got to keep at it to get it done. I welded in the 2nd patch today over the top front of the rocker. That closed it up nicely. Then I cut up a new patch for the outer section of the upper floor and got it spot welded in. It surprised me that the inner metal under that floor was like brand new, unpainted as if it had left the factory yesterday. Kind of odd that it didn't even get a coating of rust on it. I didn't hesitate to put a coat of paint over it before I buttoned it up though.



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