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Not my cup of tea but in case you missed it ;):
https://www.hagerty.com/media/car-profiles/murray-pfaffs-59-imperial...
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Location: northern germany | 56D500boy - 2020-08-27 3:16 PM
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Not my cup of tea :
Maybe because you aren't a clown?
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Location: Kansas City | Not a fan at all. His concept is BS. If Chrysler had built a two seat roadster it would not have look anything like this. I love hot rods, customs, and street machines....but this one sucks. |
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Location: The Bat Cave, Fairborn, OH | I've seen this car or one like it at the Good Guys Show in Columbus, OH a couple of years ago.An impressive build when you see it in the flesh, but the heavy chromework of the massive 1959 Imperial bumper and headlights looks out of place on a car that has been drastically shortened from stock configuration like this. Personally I woud have considered usong a smaller bumper' maybe from a 1959 Chrysler and removing all the extra chrome doo-dads from the fenders that aren't really necessary for a cleaner look.
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Location: Finland | Two things destroyed the looks of this car imo ....the wheels and the wheelbase....ugh.. |
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Location: Blythewood, SC | I saw this on Power Tour when it was gold. It's an incredible car in person. The workmanship is beyond belief. |
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| I dunno, I guess it was just a sedan... proportions are whack though. |
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Location: California | Thanks 56D500boy for downloading the link for the Hagerty Media News article that was written on the 1959 Imperial Speedster and was written by longtime and renowed automotive journalist Don Sherman, who also writes for Car and Driver and Motor Trend magazines. And in 2019, he also won the prestigious Automotive Heritage Awards for Lifetime Achivement in Journalism. I read the entire article and in my opinion, I thought that Murray Pfaff's award winning 1959 Imperial Speedster concept car was absolutely "Stunning." Even the legendary automotive designer Virgil Exner Jr. said, “I know my father would have loved the Imperial Speedster. Murray Pfaff’s creation is beautiful, well-thought out, and very nicely presented.” |
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Location: Ponder, TX | Guess I have to be the lone dissenting opinion. Just as I admire many radical customs...like the Sniper '54 Plymouth...I love it! I do agree that it would probably look better with a few more inches of wheelbase, but it's certainly memorable as is.
There are many critics who think all Imperials are ugly, but I'm as forgiving of Imperial's stock gaudiness as I am of this custom. Yes, I'm a Mopar apologist and have to be when praising a few of their extreme styling efforts. |
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Location: Newark, Texas (Fort Worth) | I too wish he had used doors 5-6'' longer. He used a 4 door sedan. The windshield seems a little low, but, to each his own.
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Location: California | Orange wire wheels good gravy |
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Eh . . .
Here's my thinking. If you're going to build a "Could have been" you need to do it pretty close to how it "Would have been".
Yes, taking advantage of modern techniques, materials, and sometimes components can work, but you have to stay true to the style and sometimes technically driven appearance of the original vehicles.
The wheels on this car are completely inappropriate. And had Chrysler built a roadster it certainly would have been that few inches longer we all seem to agree it needs to look balanced.
On the other hand, if you are trying to do a "modern interpretation" then do that all the way - trim the overly heavy bumper lines and excessive chrome.
Good aesthetic design is like a good tool - most can only do one thing well.
Gregg
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Location: California | Looks like a bad photoshop |
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Location: So. Cal | The problem with these concepts is they always delete an entire door from the wheelbase. It would have been better to use a 2dr car and use a 4dr size door on it. Either that, or even better, cut some from the door and some from the panel. Cut like around 10". That would make it look shorter, yet not ridiculously short. Then you can cut more off the back end & front end as well if you like, to balance it out. Do everything digitally first before you start cutting to make sure you like what you are planning to create. But cutting out an entire door length from the wheelbase makes it look ridiculous. |
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Location: Williams California | Looks like some nice workmanship, but I have to agree it appears totally disproportionate. The windshield treatment appears to have been a last minute thought in my opinion.
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Location: northern germany | I think we can agree, that no one is here because of the outstanding (body) workmanship of FL cars. It's all about style, looks and aesthetics. This thing is probably put together well, but it is still a turd, a perfectly build turd. I'd prefer a poorly assembled full size FL car, in any shape. This thing is totally out of proportion and driving it makes you look like a clown to boot. |
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Murray Pfaff's 59 Imperial Speedster on Hagerty
