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Apollo 61
Posted 2020-08-27 11:20 PM (#602664)
Subject: Industrial 413



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Picked up a rebuilt 63 413 short block today cheap . It has a gear drive on front. Does this mean it is a industrial motor?
If so, is this motor usable in a car?



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NM Desoto
Posted 2020-08-27 11:48 PM (#602666 - in reply to #602664)
Subject: Re: Industrial 413


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The gear drive is industrial and / or larger truck. It probably will have an eight bolt flywheel flange. A good block for a hot rod engine, but as is will be low compression.
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Apollo 61
Posted 2020-08-28 11:54 AM (#602682 - in reply to #602666)
Subject: Re: Industrial 413



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I see it has the 8 bolt flange. I guess I will only be able to use the block from this motor and maybe the rods?



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Mopar1
Posted 2020-08-28 3:47 PM (#602691 - in reply to #602682)
Subject: Re: Industrial 413



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The typical comment would be replace the heads with car heads, perhaps the pistons. The 426 Hemi flexplate/flywheel should fit the crank.
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57chizler
Posted 2020-08-31 12:41 PM (#602761 - in reply to #602664)
Subject: RE: Industrial 413



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Apollo 61 - 2020-08-27 8:20 PM

Picked up a rebuilt 63 413 short block today cheap . It has a gear drive on front. Does this mean it is a industrial motor?


I have heard that the marine 413 also had the gear drive.
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jboymechanic
Posted 2020-08-31 2:37 PM (#602766 - in reply to #602664)
Subject: Re: Industrial 413



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Did these engines have special thrust bearings (crank, cam or both) given the quieter helical gears?
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57chizler
Posted 2020-09-01 5:19 PM (#602800 - in reply to #602766)
Subject: Re: Industrial 413



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The cam gears were spur gears, not helical.



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jboymechanic
Posted 2020-09-01 9:19 PM (#602813 - in reply to #602664)
Subject: Re: Industrial 413



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In the picture that Apollo 61 provided, the gears are clearly helically cut.
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Mopar1
Posted 2020-09-02 11:40 AM (#602832 - in reply to #602813)
Subject: Re: Industrial 413



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Don't have to worry about breaking a timing chain.....
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Mopar1
Posted 2020-09-02 11:41 AM (#602833 - in reply to #602691)
Subject: Re: Industrial 413



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Mopar1 - 2020-08-28 2:47 PM

The typical comment would be replace the heads with car heads, perhaps the pistons. The 426 Hemi flexplate/flywheel should fit the crank.
If marine or ind the cam should be replaced.
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57chizler
Posted 2020-09-02 1:57 PM (#602843 - in reply to #602813)
Subject: Re: Industrial 413



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jboymechanic - 2020-09-01 6:19 PM

In the picture that Apollo 61 provided, the gears are clearly helically cut.


This raises a question I have often pondered, he also shows a pic of what appears to be an early unthreaded crank flange but most of the industrial/marine 413's I've seen pics of appear to have what appears to be the late Hemi style threaded crank flange.

Wonder what the casting date is on the side of the subject block.
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Apollo 61
Posted 2020-09-03 2:34 AM (#602870 - in reply to #602843)
Subject: Re: Industrial 413



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57chizler - 2020-09-02 1:57 PM

jboymechanic - 2020-09-01 6:19 PM

In the picture that Apollo 61 provided, the gears are clearly helically cut.


This raises a question I have often pondered, he also shows a pic of what appears to be an early unthreaded crank flange but most of the industrial/marine 413's I've seen pics of appear to have what appears to be the late Hemi style threaded crank flange.

Wonder what the casting date is on the side of the subject block.


2/8/63



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Apollo 61
Posted 2020-09-03 2:37 AM (#602871 - in reply to #602870)
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57chizler
Posted 2020-09-04 1:58 PM (#602920 - in reply to #602870)
Subject: Re: Industrial 413



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57chizler - 2020-09-02 1:57 PM


Wonder what the casting date is on the side of the subject block.


2/8/63

OK, that begs one more question, crank flange extension....how far is the crank flange from the block?
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