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Stroller
Posted 2020-12-18 1:53 PM (#606867)
Subject: Regarding the brake shoe return springs


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Hey has anyone figured out an easier way to remove/install the return springs without the factory gizmo tool? This is for my '56 Imperial. Them little buggers are strong.
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wizard
Posted 2020-12-18 2:04 PM (#606869 - in reply to #606867)
Subject: Re: Regarding the brake shoe return springs



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I use an awl for this, best and easiest tool



(Removing brake return springs with the awl-rez.jpg)



(Installing brake return springs with the awl-rez.jpg)



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Stroller
Posted 2020-12-18 4:56 PM (#606876 - in reply to #606867)
Subject: Re: Regarding the brake shoe return springs


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Thank you. I was wondering about using 1 or a thin blade screw driver. Been too cold to go out and take care of the taking care. Hopefully Tuesday will be better. Will have another body to help out and an extra foot when it comes time. One of the wheel cylinders best be a bit juicy to show for the down a tad in the mc pot.
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wizard
Posted 2020-12-18 5:05 PM (#606878 - in reply to #606867)
Subject: Re: Regarding the brake shoe return springs



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The awl must be of good quality - I use Wera, seems it can stand a lot of abusement
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b5rt
Posted 2020-12-18 8:44 PM (#606882 - in reply to #606867)
Subject: Re: Regarding the brake shoe return springs



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I've used a Stanley awl an I made one out of an old phillips screwdriver that I ground the end to a dull point.
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Stroller
Posted 2020-12-24 10:45 AM (#607047 - in reply to #606867)
Subject: Re: Regarding the brake shoe return springs


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The awl worked great. I bought a new pick set, Husky, at Home Depot for $10.00 bucks. I must the front brakes and those with the dual rear wheel cylinders is a stupid design. The transfer fluid line to the lower wheel cylinders is inside the drum. A little tiny leak is all it takes to realize "WTF"!! when brake pedal seems to work, mostly. Had a ton of fun getting the MC fluid reservoir to seal. 6 foot arms and elbows that bend back wards would have been helpful.
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Richbo
Posted 2021-03-01 6:07 AM (#609386 - in reply to #606867)
Subject: Re: Regarding the brake shoe return springs


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On the front shoes do the springs hook to the web-hole instead ?? That way they pull straight in , instead of at and angle.
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Powerflite
Posted 2021-03-01 6:12 PM (#609404 - in reply to #606882)
Subject: Re: Regarding the brake shoe return springs



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b5rt - 2020-12-18 5:44 PM
I've used a Stanley awl an I made one out of an old phillips screwdriver that I ground the end to a dull point.


That's a great idea to use for a worn out phillps screw driver.
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56D500boy
Posted 2021-03-01 6:37 PM (#609406 - in reply to #609386)
Subject: Re: Regarding the brake shoe return springs



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Richbo - 2021-03-01 3:07 AM
On the front shoes do the springs hook to the web-hole instead ?? That way they pull straight in , instead of at and angle.


Agree. At least for the fronts. (The rears might be different). The original shoes didn't even have those loops to potentially hook the springs on to.

By 57 they had changed the shoes to include loops and the fronts were different that the rears

These are mine:



This is from the 56 Chrysler Factory Service Manual (followed by a page from the 57 Dodge FSM):







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(Original56ChryslerCenterPlaneBrakes_NoLoopsInShoes.jpg)



(57DodgeCenterPlaneBrakes.jpg)



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Stroller
Posted 2021-03-05 10:40 AM (#609514 - in reply to #606867)
Subject: Re: Regarding the brake shoe return springs


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yep the front springs go into the holes in the shoes and the rear go on the hoops. The shoes on mine are the original as I have said I've had them relined. You can't get the spring in the hole under the loops on the rear as they are directly over the hole. But again the awl is the ticket and the go to to get 'em done.
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