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Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 10033   Location: So. Cal | Looking through my collection of 1957-58 side saddle air cleaners, I notice similar differences to what is observed with the 300C & '57 Fury air cleaners. Some of them, both 2bbl and 4bbl, have large round reliefs near the carburetor, and others are more flat, although still ribbed. Additionally, with the 4bbl air cleaners, those that have the round reliefs in them, also have taller intake sections as well. This is confirmed with 4 different 4bbl air cleaners, 3 with the relief, and 1 without. I have 3 Dodge side saddle air cleaners, 2 4bbl versions (not shown), and 1 2bbl version (the primer red one at the bottom), and they all have the relief, and both 4bbl versions have the taller intake on them as well. I know the 2bbl one shown in the picture is from my '58 Dodge so it's part number is 1826114 and is the same as the late '57 Dodge & DeSoto 2bbl air cleaners. The question is, how is the early '57 version different? The other Chrysler & DeSoto air cleaners shown are from Ebay or swapmeets so I don't know of their origins. Edited by Powerflite 2021-05-13 2:16 PM (57-58 Air Cleaner Variances.jpg) Attachments ----------------  57-58 Air Cleaner Variances.jpg (230KB - 202 downloads) | ||
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Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 10290  Location: Lower Mainland BC | . Nathan: The other thing to watch for is the shape of the air cleaner element at the end of the "side saddle". My 56 Dodge D500 4bbl came with a side saddle air cleaner that I knew was wrong for a 56 Dodge. But I thought that because it was on a D500 engine that it must have been originally from a 57 D500 engine. As such, I advertised it here as a 57 D500 air cleaner and sold it too Joe V. in San Diego. After he got it, he informed me that it was not from a 57 D500 because the air filter element was round, not the proper oval. Oops.  In the end, Joe and I agreed to split the difference and I refunded half of what he paid me. My "D500" air cleaner (which it was not - as I learned later): Image of a real 57 D500 air cleaner posted by LD3_Greg REFERENCE: http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=63409&...  | ||
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Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 10033 Location: So. Cal | I realized that I have a very original & complete '57 New Yorker on my hands now so I can determine which air cleaner is which, at least for them. The cutoff motor number in the parts book is No. NE57-25366, which is very late. My gold '57 New Yorker motor number is NE57-10613 with a build date of Jan 30th, and has the short air inlet without the clearance dent. I suspect that the clearance dent may be intended to provide more clearance for the new AFB carburetor, which has a wider size to it than the WCFB did. Based on this car, we can narrow the part numbers down as follows: 1730867 4bbl: Early 57, Late 58 Chrysler, Imp, Early LA Built 58 Chrysler (SHORT INLET, NO RELIEF) 1739568 4bbl: Late 57, Early 58 Chrysler, Imp, Late LA Built 58 Chrysler, All 58 Imp (TALL INLET w/RELIEF) The only puzzling thing in my mind is why Detroit would swap back to the early style, late in the year in '58. Doesn't make much sense. Why go back to an obsolete part number? Maybe they found a new stash of them somewhere that they needed to use up? By the way, no surprise, but this air cleaner has the cloverleaf design on the lid. It is my experience that all the 2bbl Chrysler air cleaners received flat lids, while the 4bbl air cleaners received cloverleaf designs. But I don't have any experience with Saratoga cars to know for sure what they came with, so this is based only on my Windsors & New Yorkers. It's possible that Saratoga 4bbl air cleaners could have come with flat lids as well. Edited by Powerflite 2021-07-11 6:14 PM (57NY Gold Air Cleaner Style.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 57NY Gold Air Cleaner Style.jpg (139KB - 170 downloads) | ||
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Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 10033 Location: So. Cal | I'm using the later side saddle air cleaner with the round relief in my '57 Belvedere (it's the 4bbl version in the lower right side of the 1st picture in this thread). I don't know what application the air cleaner originally came from, but I checked out the sticker on it and it doesn't have a part number. The air cleaner in my '58 Fireflite has the correct part number 1826106, but the same air cleaner in my pink '58 Firedome has no part number on it either. It seems they got tired of keeping a specific decal for each air cleaner in stock and put a non-number on it whenever they ran out. Edited by Powerflite 2024-09-30 1:26 PM (Mopar 4bbl Side Saddle Air Cleaner Sticker.jpg) (58 Firedome Air Cleaner - No Part No..jpg) Attachments ---------------- Mopar 4bbl Side Saddle Air Cleaner Sticker.jpg (102KB - 40 downloads) 58 Firedome Air Cleaner - No Part No..jpg (105KB - 43 downloads) | ||
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Expert Posts: 1231 Location: SWITZERLAND | Powerflite - 2021-05-13 8:09 PM Looking through my collection of 1957-58 . . . . . I see: You must have a big stock of parts, Nathan. What a value when all restored! -SERGE - :o :) :laugh: | ||
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