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First attempt at using the 3M 08852 Cavity Wax (plus) and 08851 wand kit Jump to page : 1 Now viewing page 1 [50 messages per page] | View previous thread :: View next thread |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9900 Location: Lower Mainland BC | . Previously in Mike's 392 into a 57 Dodge thread I said: 56D500boy - 2020-05-27 5:03 PM mikes2nd - 2020-05-27 3:53 PM here is the spray wand I used. Thanks for the video link. 3M 08851 wand kit is definitely better than the Eastwood four-holer that I used with their cavity paint. Looks like I need to do that all over again - with the 3M wands. Video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfisO8h8vYY Yesterday I bought a 3M 08851 Wand Kit and two cans of 08852 Cavity Wax Plus to re-do my 56 Dodge 4 dr sedan rockers (previously (2019?) rodded, vacuumed and painted (Eastwood interior frame rust paint)). Started today with re-vacuuming the driver's side rockers using a 5/8" hose and my Ridgid shop vac. Mostly got nothing (which meant that the Eastwood product wasn't too bad after all) *BUT* I did get some bits in the dog leg beside the back seat. Then I had to figure out about how to use the 3M wands. I shoved the longest one (864 mm (34")) down one of the holes under the rear sill plate. (There are four 50 cent piece sized-holes, 2 per sill plate area). When I was actually spraying product, I went both directions through each of the four holes and ended up using a whole can in the one rocker (plus a few seconds of spray with the second can in the dog leg - just to be sure.) I probably over did it. For the second side, I will try to just use the one can (about 90% left). Not in a hurry to do that one. The driver's side sill plates have been off since about Nov. 2019 so it was definitely time to get them back on. Now I can do that. Some photos: Edited by 56D500boy 2021-05-15 9:20 PM (ContentsOfThe3M08851Kit.jpg) (TestingThe864mm3MCavityWaxWandInOneOfTheFourRockerAccessHoles_56Dodge4drSedan.jpg) (PreparingToSpray3MCavityWaxIntoRockerWith864mm3MWand.jpg) Attachments ---------------- ContentsOfThe3M08851Kit.jpg (135KB - 171 downloads) TestingThe864mm3MCavityWaxWandInOneOfTheFourRockerAccessHoles_56Dodge4drSedan.jpg (238KB - 172 downloads) PreparingToSpray3MCavityWaxIntoRockerWith864mm3MWand.jpg (109KB - 171 downloads) | ||
mikes2nd |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 5006 | you drive it in the rain???? | ||
56D500boy |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9900 Location: Lower Mainland BC | mikes2nd - 2021-05-15 10:42 PM you drive it in the rain???? Absolutely NOT (at least not on purpose). BUT I am on the wet coast and the humidity levels in the winter can be nasty. The car lives in the garage (single 12 x 20 built in 1942). I don't heat the garage unless I am going to work in there - NOT every day over the winter. I just wanted the piece of mind that I know that what I can't see isn't going to hurt me (the car). EVER. Now that that is done, I can button up the sills with re-polished sill plates knowing that what is under the sills is going to stay fine for a long time. Edited by 56D500boy 2021-05-16 12:48 PM | ||
Charlie8575 |
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Regular Posts: 75 | This is a good idea. I think I may do this on my car when time comes. Here in New England, even well inland from the coast, it seems salt is always in the air, along with moisture. I plan to use a good-quality anti-corrosive undercoat prior to painting, anyway, but against the rust monster, there is no such thing as too much defense. Charlie Larkin | ||
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Board Moderator & Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 13045 Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | What??? don't you drive in the rain??? We went out on the first roadtrip this year on saturday. Naturally the rain came when we was halfway on the trip. This is no drama, I have a dehumidifier in the garage, so after a few hours the car is dry, inside and outside. The only thing I awoid is salt and snow. | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 8947 Location: WHEELING,WV.>>>HOME OF WWVA | just wondering , how cavity wax works on old metal -------------------------------later | ||
mikes2nd |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 5006 | rust free old metal? cavity wax is only real rustproofer... | ||
FINS! |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 943 | What is this stuff? A waxy anti rust proofing? | ||
56D500boy |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9900 Location: Lower Mainland BC | FINS! - 2021-05-19 7:48 PM What is this stuff? A waxy anti rust proofing? That is correct. | ||
mikes2nd |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 5006 | yeah cavity wax, i would use eastwood rocker paint and then this if you want to be super safe | ||
56D500boy |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9900 Location: Lower Mainland BC | mikes2nd - 2021-05-19 8:48 PM yeah cavity wax, i would use eastwood rocker paint and then this if you want to be super safe Well, I guess that my car is super duper safe: 1. Rust Converter followed by 2. Eastwood internal frame paint followed by 3. 3M 08852 Cavity wax Previously: 56D500boy - 2019-09-10 3:59 PM Right or wrong, I proceeded with Plan A, with one modification (okay two) 1. I vacuumed out the *INSIDE* of the rocker (passenger side this round) using an attachment that I made for my RIGID shop vac using a piece of PEX hose and a length of 5/8" OD/1/2" ID clear vinyl hose and some duct tape. The vinyl was flexible enough to be fed into the rocker through the four (2 each door opening) quarter-sized holes that the factory left/provided. I also "scraped" the inside of the rocker with a length of clothes hanger wire. I kept vacuuming until nothing more could be seen or heard being sucked into the vacuum. (Maybe 10 minutes per door opening, moving the wire and the hose this way and that). 2. When that was done, I was going to use the Eastwood paint but I inadvertently discovered that the Eastwood nozzle and spray hose fit on a can of RUST CHECK brand "Rust Converter". Since I had previous experience with the Rust Converter, I taped off the little screw holes on the door sill (sill plate obviously still removed) and after marking the spray hose at about 2" back from the nozzle, I proceeded to use the Eastwood spray hose to blow Rust Converter into the cavity, via the four factory access holes (2 per door sill). I managed to not get any over spray on my carpet or seat bottoms, etc. (It would be a better idea to do this "improvement" when the carpet is out (but it was fine because I knew when I saw the mark on the hose to be careful with the spray). I cleaned out the spray hose with some Mopar Combustion Chamber cleaner (a wicked solvent) and then blew the hose out with compressed air. To be certain, I soaked the end of the hose and brass spray nozzle in solvent overnight. 3. Today I used the Eastwood Internal Frame paint. I used one can on the passenger side. I pushed the hose up as far to the front through the front most front door sill hole as I could and then, later, as far to the back as I could through the rear most sill hole in the rear door sill. There was paint dripping out of the rocker panel drain holes on the bottom of the rocker so I know that I didn't skimp on the paint. I did get a bit of paint dripping on the sill when I pulled the hose out (finger off the trigger) to move it to the next sill hole. Took about 15 minutes including adding some more masking tape along the carpet edge as a precaution. I will let it dry for a day or so before I take a peak with my fibre-optics BoreScope and see how well I did. Not sure if I can capture a screen image or not. I presume that if I didn't get full coverage, I could always go with more paint *OR* the waxy spray that some of you have suggested. In any event, I will not be driving this car purposely on rainy days. So how wet it would get is moot. "NOT very". REFERENCE: http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-post.asp?action=rep... | ||
dfermon |
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Member Posts: 18 Location: Atlanta, GA | Fluid Film is a good alternative since it penetrates more though a bit messy to use. | ||
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