The Forward Look Network
The Forward Look Network
Search | Statistics | User Listing Forums | Chat | eBay | Calendars | Albums | Skins | Language
You are logged in as a guest. ( logon | register )

1960 DeSoto Adventurer VIN Tag Decoding
Jump to page : 1
Now viewing page 1 [50 messages per page]
View previous thread :: View next thread
   Forward Look Technical Discussions -> Fender/VIN Tag and Broadcast Sheet DecodingMessage format
 
NC Adventurer
Posted 2021-09-19 10:54 AM (#615171)
Subject: 1960 DeSoto Adventurer VIN Tag Decoding


Veteran

Posts: 148
10025
I've learned the following about the VIN tag on my Adventurer.

7=DeSoto
2=Adventurer
0=Year (1960)
3= East Jefferson Avenue Plant

Following that first four digit series in six digits, which I am told is the sequence number of the car as it rolled of the line. My question: Does that six digit sequence go for DeSoto to date or just for 1960?

Insight would be greatly appreciated!
Top of the page Bottom of the page
56D500boy
Posted 2021-09-19 11:21 AM (#615174 - in reply to #615171)
Subject: RE: 1960 DeSoto Adventurer VIN Tag Decoding



Expert 5K+

Posts: 8630
50002000100050010025
Location: Lower Mainland BC
.
I just made a post about 1960 Mopar VINs. Not sure if it answers your question or not:

http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=76394




Top of the page Bottom of the page
NC Adventurer
Posted 2021-09-19 2:01 PM (#615184 - in reply to #615174)
Subject: RE: 1960 DeSoto Adventurer VIN Tag Decoding


Veteran

Posts: 148
10025
Thanks a million for that!
Do you know of any way to decipher the production date from either the VIN tag or the fender tag?

Edited by NC Adventurer 2021-09-19 2:06 PM
Top of the page Bottom of the page
56D500boy
Posted 2021-09-19 2:18 PM (#615185 - in reply to #615184)
Subject: RE: 1960 DeSoto Adventurer VIN Tag Decoding



Expert 5K+

Posts: 8630
50002000100050010025
Location: Lower Mainland BC
NC Adventurer - 2021-09-19 11:01 AM
Do you know of any way to decipher the production date from either the VIN tag or the fender tag?


The fender/cowl tag should have the date on it. Typically lower left corner, four digits. First 2 = month, second 2 = day

59 Dodge example (Sept 26 (09 26) (sorry I don't have images of any 60 Desoto cowl tags) but I do have some 60 Desoto build sheet/invoices:

Edited by 56D500boy 2021-09-19 2:20 PM




(59dodgeCowlTag.jpg)



(1960AdventurerBroadcastSheet_Large.jpg)



(1960AdventurerInvoice.jpg)



Attachments
----------------
Attachments 59dodgeCowlTag.jpg (248KB - 104 downloads)
Attachments 1960AdventurerBroadcastSheet_Large.jpg (233KB - 105 downloads)
Attachments 1960AdventurerInvoice.jpg (237KB - 100 downloads)
Top of the page Bottom of the page
frwl
Posted 2021-09-19 2:51 PM (#615186 - in reply to #615171)
Subject: RE: 1960 DeSoto Adventurer VIN Tag Decoding


Expert

Posts: 1293
1000100100252525
.
Can you post the picture of your data plate? I'll try...
Top of the page Bottom of the page
frwl
Posted 2021-09-19 2:56 PM (#615187 - in reply to #615171)
Subject: RE: 1960 DeSoto Adventurer VIN Tag Decoding


Expert

Posts: 1293
1000100100252525
.
A typical '60 DeSoto data plate...
It is located on the driver's hinge post
You should have something like this:



(1.jpg)



Attachments
----------------
Attachments 1.jpg (180KB - 104 downloads)
Top of the page Bottom of the page
NC Adventurer
Posted 2021-09-19 4:38 PM (#615190 - in reply to #615171)
Subject: Re: 1960 DeSoto Adventurer VIN Tag Decoding


Veteran

Posts: 148
10025
Afternoon Everyone,

Digging in deeper (after locating the data tag), I've found the following numbers beneath a corresponding letter above it. Beneath the J is a 6, beneath the TV is a 91 and beneath the Y is an 8.

Beneath the paint designation, there is BB1. I understand that one B means black and that the 1 means a single color vehicle, which explains the black top over the black body as compared to the many white topped Adventurers I've seen. What does the second B mean?

What would the difference be between the 806 and 816 trim codes?

Thanks a million for all the help deciphering my data tag.

Does anyone know what those codes mean?
Top of the page Bottom of the page
56D500boy
Posted 2021-09-19 5:19 PM (#615194 - in reply to #615190)
Subject: Re: 1960 DeSoto Adventurer VIN Tag Decoding



Expert 5K+

Posts: 8630
50002000100050010025
Location: Lower Mainland BC
NC Adventurer - 2021-09-19 1:38 PM
Beneath the paint designation, there is BB1. I understand that one B means black and that the 1 means a single color vehicle, which explains the black top over the black body as compared to the many white topped Adventurers I've seen. What does the second B mean?



Todd: I think that you are trying to overthink these codes. BB-1 was just the code for all Black. (Save the image below for your files:)

The note at the bottom of the paint chip chart suggests that the first letter of the paint code is the roof colour and the second is the lower body colour. So BB = all black. WB = white roof/black body, etc.




Edited by 56D500boy 2021-09-19 6:14 PM
Top of the page Bottom of the page
NC Adventurer
Posted 2021-09-19 10:24 PM (#615200 - in reply to #615194)
Subject: Re: 1960 DeSoto Adventurer VIN Tag Decoding


Veteran

Posts: 148
10025
That's what I was thinking, too. The roof color was one letter while the body color was another. The one, according to some charts, indicates one color.

I'd actually just like to figure out the other codes (the numbers) beneath the letter line. I'm sure its just options but it would be nice to compare them to the actual car.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
56D500boy
Posted 2021-09-19 11:33 PM (#615202 - in reply to #615200)
Subject: Re: 1960 DeSoto Adventurer VIN Tag Decoding



Expert 5K+

Posts: 8630
50002000100050010025
Location: Lower Mainland BC
NC Adventurer - 2021-09-19 7:24 PM
I'd actually just like to figure out the other codes (the numbers) beneath the letter line. I'm sure its just options but it would be nice to compare them to the actual car.


So basically, you are hoping for answers to this (J6, T9, V1 and Y8) (There are a couple of guys in Europe that will likely have some or all of the answers):

In the meantime, your car was built on or around May 26, 1960. (That's all I've got - I'm a 56 Dodge guy who sometimes has other info to share - like the 60 Adventurer build sheet and invoice (for the same car)):


Top of the page Bottom of the page
frwl
Posted 2021-09-20 2:36 AM (#615207 - in reply to #615171)
Subject: RE: 1960 DeSoto Adventurer VIN Tag Decoding


Expert

Posts: 1293
1000100100252525
.
J6 = 306 = Adventurer Basic Group No. 2 including (see below):

Heater
Radio
Power Steering
Power Brakes
Windshield Washer
Parking Brake Signal
Electric Clock
Prismatic Mirror
Vanity Mirror
License Plate Frame
Left Outside Rear View Mirror with Remote Control (Group 305 is the same but Mirror LESS Remote Control)

http://www.oldcarbrochures.com/static/NA/DeSoto/1960_DeSoto/1960_De...

T9 = 429 = Rear Seat Speaker
V1 = 441 = Solex Tinted Glass
Y8 = 588 = Undercoating and Underhood Pad

SO 0526 = Scheduled on May 26, 1960
NUMBER 3038 = Yes, it is 38th car built that day
BDY 722 = Adventurer Sportsman 2 Door Hardtop
TRM 806 = Red Cloth and Vinyl Upholstery (see below)
PNT BB1 = Black Roof (B), Black Body (B), Monotone Paint Scheme (1); Two Tones would be (2):
For example: BW2 = Black Roof (B), White Body (W), Two Tone Paint Scheme (2)

No Swivel Seats, Power Windows, Power Seats, Air Conditioning…




(Accessory Groups.JPG)



(Trim 806.JPG)



Attachments
----------------
Attachments Accessory Groups.JPG (88KB - 110 downloads)
Attachments Trim 806.JPG (165KB - 105 downloads)
Top of the page Bottom of the page
frwl
Posted 2021-09-20 2:49 AM (#615208 - in reply to #615171)
Subject: RE: 1960 DeSoto Adventurer VIN Tag Decoding


Expert

Posts: 1293
1000100100252525
.
The difference between 806 and 816 would be pattern upholstery; color combos are the similar:
80x trim codes used on Adventurer while 81x trim codes used on Fireflite

Fireflite Trim codes for 1960:
811 = Blue
812 = Green
814 = Gray
816 = Red
818 = Tan

Adventurer Trim codes for 1960:
801 = Blue
802 = Green
804 = Gray
806 = Red
808 = Tan

The trim code 806 vs. 816 (sorry for these pictures with wearing upholsteries):




(806 front.JPG)



(806 rear.JPG)



(816 front.jpg)



(816 rear.jpg)



Attachments
----------------
Attachments 806 front.JPG (48KB - 103 downloads)
Attachments 806 rear.JPG (39KB - 112 downloads)
Attachments 816 front.jpg (225KB - 108 downloads)
Attachments 816 rear.jpg (223KB - 104 downloads)
Top of the page Bottom of the page
frwl
Posted 2021-09-20 2:56 AM (#615209 - in reply to #615171)
Subject: RE: 1960 DeSoto Adventurer VIN Tag Decoding


Expert

Posts: 1293
1000100100252525
.
Here a little better: trim code 801 vs. 811



(Trim 801.jpg)



(Trim 811.jpg)



Attachments
----------------
Attachments Trim 801.jpg (99KB - 104 downloads)
Attachments Trim 811.jpg (111KB - 102 downloads)
Top of the page Bottom of the page
1960fury
Posted 2021-09-20 8:48 AM (#615210 - in reply to #615171)
Subject: Re: 1960 DeSoto Adventurer VIN Tag Decoding



Expert 5K+

Posts: 7184
50002000100252525
Location: northern germany
Interesting speaker grille in the last picture. It is not the oval OE type and not OE, I think. anyone ever seen a speaker grille like that before?
Top of the page Bottom of the page
wizard
Posted 2021-09-20 11:35 AM (#615214 - in reply to #615171)
Subject: Re: 1960 DeSoto Adventurer VIN Tag Decoding



Board Moderator & Exner Expert 10K+

Posts: 12753
5000500020005001001002525
Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island
I'd say it's Philips grille and mesh that has been painted Sid?



(ad7e8078-3c22-4fef-9c2a-a7233c1cc208.jpg)



Attachments
----------------
Attachments ad7e8078-3c22-4fef-9c2a-a7233c1cc208.jpg (60KB - 104 downloads)
Top of the page Bottom of the page
56D500boy
Posted 2021-09-20 6:49 PM (#615223 - in reply to #615208)
Subject: 60 Adventurer Driving - must have the 806 interior (??)



Expert 5K+

Posts: 8630
50002000100050010025
Location: Lower Mainland BC
.
This (Probably 806 interior (according to Igor's info) and WB1 Paint):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-88KQhfpCE





(60AdventurerDriving_Probably806InteriorAndWB1Paint.jpg)



Attachments
----------------
Attachments 60AdventurerDriving_Probably806InteriorAndWB1Paint.jpg (141KB - 104 downloads)
Top of the page Bottom of the page
1960fury
Posted 2021-09-20 7:14 PM (#615224 - in reply to #615214)
Subject: Re: 1960 DeSoto Adventurer VIN Tag Decoding



Expert 5K+

Posts: 7184
50002000100252525
Location: northern germany
wizard - 2021-09-20 11:35 AM

I'd say it's Philips grille and mesh that has been painted Sid?


Thats it! Thanks!
Top of the page Bottom of the page
NC Adventurer
Posted 2021-09-25 4:18 PM (#615348 - in reply to #615223)
Subject: RE: 60 Adventurer Driving - must have the 806 interior (??)


Veteran

Posts: 148
10025
Yep, that's the 806. Matches mine perfectly.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
NC Adventurer
Posted 2021-09-25 4:20 PM (#615350 - in reply to #615210)
Subject: Re: 1960 DeSoto Adventurer VIN Tag Decoding


Veteran

Posts: 148
10025
Following your post, I checked mine. Its exactly the same except for being painted black to match the deck.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
NC Adventurer
Posted 2021-09-25 4:22 PM (#615351 - in reply to #615171)
Subject: Re: 1960 DeSoto Adventurer VIN Tag Decoding


Veteran

Posts: 148
10025
I just wanted to thank everyone for their assistance in decoding the data tag on my DeSoto. It confirms that she is exactly as she left the factory all those years ago. The knowledge on the various options is really interesting, too. Thanks a million.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Mope R. Geezer
Posted 2022-07-05 6:11 PM (#622656 - in reply to #615171)
Subject: RE: 1960 DeSoto Adventurer VIN Tag Decoding



Expert

Posts: 1997
1000500100100100100252525
Location: Idaho - where men are men and spuds are spuds

Some help on my 1960 Desoto Fireflite, please?

BODY DATA PLATE

A/2    N/5    T/2     V/1     Y/8

SO NUMBER/0914     3033                BDY/712     TRM/816     PNT/WW1

So here's what I've been able to decifer so far:  Desoto Fireflite  PS-1;  V/1 = solex tinted glass;  Y/8 = undercoating & underhood pad;  TRM = Red;  PNT = Shell White

Can't figure out what BDY/712 is.  Mine is a 2-dr hardtop.

Also can't figure out what A/2  N/5  and T/2 are?????

What say you?

Top of the page Bottom of the page
frwl
Posted 2022-07-05 9:10 PM (#622660 - in reply to #615171)
Subject: RE: 1960 DeSoto Adventurer VIN Tag Decoding


Expert

Posts: 1293
1000100100252525
.
A2 = 292 = Power Brakes
N5 = 315 = Heater
T2 = 422 = Radio Golden Tone
V1 = 441 = Solex Tinted Glass – All Windows
Y8 = 588 = Undercoating and Underhood Insulating Pad

SO NUMBER 0914 3033 = Scheduled on September 14, 1959; 33th DeSoto Built that Day
BDY 712 = DeSoto (7), Fireflite (1), 2 Door Hardtop (2)
TRM 816 = Red Nylon Bolsters and Red Nylon Thread Fabric Upholstery
PNT WW1 = Shell White – Upper and Lower Colors (WW), Paint Scheme Monotone (1)

Below a Body Codes Available: 71x Fireflites & 72x Adventurers:



(1.jpg)



Attachments
----------------
Attachments 1.jpg (113KB - 19 downloads)
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Mope R. Geezer
Posted 2022-07-05 9:23 PM (#622662 - in reply to #615171)
Subject: RE: 1960 DeSoto Adventurer VIN Tag Decoding



Expert

Posts: 1997
1000500100100100100252525
Location: Idaho - where men are men and spuds are spuds

You're johnny-on-the-spot!  Thank you. 

Top of the page Bottom of the page
Mope R. Geezer
Posted 2022-07-08 2:46 PM (#622723 - in reply to #615171)
Subject: RE: 1960 DeSoto Adventurer VIN Tag Decoding



Expert

Posts: 1997
1000500100100100100252525
Location: Idaho - where men are men and spuds are spuds

Holy cow, Dianielle, at Chrysler Historical, turned my build record request around in less tha a week!  Copy is below.  I don't know how to read it.  Are the little black punch marks supposed to line up with number codes on the left to mean something?

Well, crap.  It won't copy/paste or attach.  It's a PDF file.



Edited by Mope R. Geezer 2022-07-08 2:58 PM
Top of the page Bottom of the page
56D500boy
Posted 2022-07-08 3:02 PM (#622724 - in reply to #622723)
Subject: RE: 1960 DeSoto Adventurer VIN Tag Decoding



Expert 5K+

Posts: 8630
50002000100050010025
Location: Lower Mainland BC
Mope R. Geezer - 2022-07-08 11:46 AM
Holy cow, Dianielle, at Chrysler Historical, turned my build record request around in less tha a week!  Copy is below.  I don't know how to read it.  Are the little black punch marks supposed to line up with number codes on the left to mean something?

Well, crap.  It won't copy/paste or attach.  It's a PDF file.



Dear Mr. Geezer: I just sent you an email to your outlook account. The email says:

"Send me your IBM card pdf and I will process it enough to post it on the Forum. Right now the pdf is too big.
Dave F (56D500Boy)"

The black lines are the hole punches and they don't necessarily line up with the lettering. As shown below (56 Dodge example)





Edited by 56D500boy 2022-07-08 3:06 PM
Top of the page Bottom of the page
56D500boy
Posted 2022-07-08 3:17 PM (#622725 - in reply to #622724)
Subject: RE: 1960 DeSoto Adventurer VIN Tag Decoding



Expert 5K+

Posts: 8630
50002000100050010025
Location: Lower Mainland BC
.
Bill: Got it. Processed it (to jpg). Sent it (two versions). Posted it (below):

(Sorry, the originals are never properly focused and I do not have NCIS software)


Edited by 56D500boy 2022-07-08 3:19 PM




(BillsDeSoto Build Record_Base_Small.jpg)



Attachments
----------------
Attachments BillsDeSoto Build Record_Base_Small.jpg (164KB - 17 downloads)
Top of the page Bottom of the page
RDP
Posted 2022-07-09 1:22 AM (#622734 - in reply to #615171)
Subject: Re: 1960 DeSoto Adventurer VIN Tag Decoding



Elite Veteran

Posts: 974
5001001001001002525
Location: PL / EU
Hi Bill. In the letter from Danielle, there is usually dealer name. Can you share the this name?
Top of the page Bottom of the page
frwl
Posted 2022-07-09 2:43 PM (#622752 - in reply to #615171)
Subject: RE: 1960 DeSoto Adventurer VIN Tag Decoding


Expert

Posts: 1293
1000100100252525
.
Bill - Thanks for sharing!
Here some options from your card:

283 = Transmission – 3 Speed Automatic Torqueflite
291 = Power Steering
292 = Power Brakes
315 = Heater
402 = Roof Molding for 2 Door Hardtop; your cars has optional wide chrome roof side moldings, just above roof rail moldings
413 = Rear Quarter Stone Shields
422 = Radio Golden Tone (less Rear Seat Speaker)
431 = Safety Padded Instrument Panel
441 = Solex Tinted Glass
501 = Stainless Steel Wheel Covers
523 = 3.31 to 1 Rear Axle Ratio
534 = 35 Amperes Generator
554 and 562 (42) = White Side Wall Tires – 8.00 x 14 Rayon
588 = Undercoating and Under Hood Insulating Pad

Top of the page Bottom of the page
frwl
Posted 2022-07-10 8:22 AM (#622779 - in reply to #615171)
Subject: RE: 1960 DeSoto Adventurer VIN Tag Decoding


Expert

Posts: 1293
1000100100252525
.
If anyone is interested… the optional order codes to the picture below:

1) LICENSE PLATE FRAME – Order Code 361
2) BUMPER GUARDS – Order Code 345
3) WHEEL COVERS – Order Code 501
4) STONE DEFLECTORS – Order Code 413
5) SILL AND WHEELHOUSE MOLDINGS WITH STONE DEFLECTORS – Order Code 414
6) 4 DOOR ROOF MOULDING PACKAGE – Order Code 403
7) 2 DOOR ROOF MOULDING PACKAGE – Order Code 402
8) FRONT FENDER ORNAMENT – Order Code 395




(1.jpg)



Attachments
----------------
Attachments 1.jpg (74KB - 15 downloads)
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Mope R. Geezer
Posted 2022-07-10 11:17 AM (#622782 - in reply to #615171)
Subject: RE: 1960 DeSoto Adventurer VIN Tag Decoding



Expert

Posts: 1997
1000500100100100100252525
Location: Idaho - where men are men and spuds are spuds

Yes, RDP, it was Genthe Motor Sales, Lincoln Park, MI.

Top of the page Bottom of the page
RDP
Posted 2022-07-10 11:34 AM (#622783 - in reply to #622782)
Subject: RE: 1960 DeSoto Adventurer VIN Tag Decoding



Elite Veteran

Posts: 974
5001001001001002525
Location: PL / EU
Mope R. Geezer - 2022-07-10 5:17 PM

Yes, RDP, it was Genthe Motor Sales, Lincoln Park, MI.



Thanks, added to the list.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Jump to page : 1
Now viewing page 1 [50 messages per page]
Jump to forum :
Search this forum
Printer friendly version
E-mail a link to this thread



(Delete all cookies set by this site)