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MSS73
Posted 2022-02-04 12:56 PM (#619044)
Subject: Desoto 1958 bumber extension



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Does anyone have pictures of this part?

Because i can't find those trims, i try to do models to make a new ones.

I can't understand how it can be so impossible to find any pictures backside of that part.

 





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Powerflite
Posted 2022-02-04 1:39 PM (#619045 - in reply to #619044)
Subject: Re: Desoto 1958 bumber extension



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There are two versions. That one is made from aluminum & quite common. It's a very simple part that mounts with trim screws onto the panel. There is also a "bumper guard" version that is made from thick steel and is much harder to obtain.
I am not at home at the moment, but I could take pictures of it next week when I get back; if someone else can't help you before that.
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56D500boy
Posted 2022-02-04 3:25 PM (#619048 - in reply to #619044)
Subject: RE: Desoto 1958 bumber extension



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Why is that piece so thin?

I thought that they were wider, like this:

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MSS73
Posted 2022-02-04 3:35 PM (#619050 - in reply to #619044)
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It's quite hard to find information, was that option to choose, which you want.
Because there seems to be both on Firesweeps.




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Powerflite
Posted 2022-02-04 4:46 PM (#619053 - in reply to #619044)
Subject: Re: Desoto 1958 bumber extension



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Yes, the version that Dave posted is the "bumper guard" option for the DeSoto. It is hard to get today, so I guess that not many chose to pay for it. The standard non-option version is the thin aluminum piece.
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22mafeja
Posted 2022-02-05 3:03 AM (#619066 - in reply to #619044)
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I am quite sure the thin ones are pot metal. Sorry for Marko I threw away a couple of weak cores last summer. I made new ones for my Firedome from stainless. The result
was driver grade but much better than without. I made them of 2mm stainless plate.
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MSS73
Posted 2022-02-05 10:21 AM (#619073 - in reply to #619044)
Subject: Re: Desoto 1958 bumber extension



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Here is couple pictures, what i have done alredy.
I copy profile of list from trim outside of backlights.
I hope i can somehow get a 3D picture when im ready with that.




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Lancer Mike
Posted 2022-02-05 6:06 PM (#619098 - in reply to #619073)
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Very impressive!

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scottbit
Posted 2022-02-06 10:10 AM (#619113 - in reply to #619044)
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Here is the backside. If I was going to make one I would solder one together from three pieces of brass and have it chromed.



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56D500boy
Posted 2022-02-06 11:16 AM (#619114 - in reply to #619113)
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scottbit - 2022-02-06 7:10 AM
Here is the backside. If I was going to make one I would solder one together from three pieces of brass and have it chromed.


Any chance that you could tell us the part number on that one. I can't read it very well. I see 173? ?4? or something. The closest that I can see in the 55-58 Parts catalog is 1735 646 or
1735 647 (??)

I just want to find what they are called by the parts book.

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MSS73
Posted 2022-02-06 11:49 AM (#619115 - in reply to #619044)
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Thank you for nice pics Scottbit!
I was planning to do it from one piece and chromed it later.
One chance is of course use stainless and polish it. But it would be quite difficult to weld pieces together nicely.


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scottbit
Posted 2022-02-06 2:25 PM (#619117 - in reply to #619044)
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Part number is `175651 There are low temperature solders that work well on stainless steel. I have had good results with Certanium 34C You can buy it on ebay. Another alternative to chrome plating is the peel and stick vinyl wrap that they use on the chrome car body wraps.
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Powerflite
Posted 2022-02-06 2:47 PM (#619118 - in reply to #619044)
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The Certanium 34C is interesting. I hadn't heard of it before. The name is misleading though. It sounds like it melts at 34C, but is actually at 221C - similar to many no-lead solders. Since pot metal typically melts at around 400C, this could be used to repair pot metal parts. To me, the really interesting part of what they claim, is that it even solders well to chrome plated parts. MuggyWeld, which is silver based and expensive, requires you to unplate the parts beforehand because their solder won't stick to chrome. Have you tried to use this for pot metal repairs? What type of flux do you need to use with it?
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Posted 2022-02-06 3:33 PM (#619119 - in reply to #619117)
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scottbit - 2022-02-06 11:25 AM
Part number is 175651 There are low temperature solders that work well on stainless steel.


Could you please try the number again? There needs to be 7 numbers. I guessed that you meant 1735 651 but that was way wrong.



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scottbit
Posted 2022-02-06 3:54 PM (#619122 - in reply to #619044)
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Part number is 1756 519 I have never tried to use 34C on pot metal. I will give it a try and let you know how it works. On stainless I just use standard paste flux, I hit the stainless with a clean 120 grit flap wheel and then apply the flux, seems to work best with indirect heat, no direct flame. There are stainless specific soldering fluxes but I have not tried them. Certanium 34C also chrome plates well unlike MuggyWeld.
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Posted 2022-02-06 4:16 PM (#619124 - in reply to #619122)
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scottbit - 2022-02-06 12:54 PM
Part number is 1756 519


Thanks, that number was a winner. I would have never found it because they hid it in Section 8, Electrical. Not Section 13, which has the bumper and grill stuff.

"Quarter Panel Extension, except Sub., w/o Bumper Guards"

1756 518 (even number = right), 1756 519 (odd number = left)



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MSS73
Posted 2022-02-08 5:59 AM (#619160 - in reply to #619044)
Subject: Re: Desoto 1958 bumber extension



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First test version :




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Posted 2022-02-09 8:56 AM (#619201 - in reply to #619160)
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These are the other type, they are heavy guage same as bumper, they bolt to the holes in the side of bumper, I was going to get them made from fiberglass same as the Plymouth bumper wings a few years back but no one seemed interested in them?



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Powerflite
Posted 2022-02-09 10:46 AM (#619209 - in reply to #619044)
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I would be interested in a metal reproduction, not in fiberglass. I have a set of them on my pink firedome that I may use as a template to make 3 more sets for my other cars.
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MSS73
Posted 2022-02-23 6:44 PM (#619740 - in reply to #619044)
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Little updating......

These are made of stainless steel, i make them shine when everything is done and ready.





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Powerflite
Posted 2022-02-23 7:02 PM (#619742 - in reply to #619044)
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Nice job. Stainless was a good choice. Good job on the TIG welding too.
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MSS73
Posted 2022-02-24 6:29 AM (#619751 - in reply to #619742)
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Powerflite - 2022-02-24 2:02 AM

Nice job. Stainless was a good choice. Good job on the TIG welding too.


Im not that good welder, it's wise to leave that job for someone who really knows what he is doing



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Lancer Mike
Posted 2022-02-24 8:28 PM (#619774 - in reply to #619751)
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Amazing!  I love it when you get to one of those super hard to get items and someone says "screw it!  I'll make it myself!"  Great job!

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MSS73
Posted 2022-03-05 1:06 PM (#620018 - in reply to #619044)
Subject: Re: Desoto 1958 bumber extension



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For next summer i leave these like this.
Parts won't fit like a gloves, because there has done some bodywork earlier (Mostly on driver side, fender is also out of model on lower corner).
I made different kind of mountings just because i want to hide them better.
I finished trims next winter, when i send some other parts to re-chromed also.
Because it was easy to do, i change tail light lenses and those cover plates also.










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Posted 2022-03-05 8:25 PM (#620022 - in reply to #619044)
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Wow those look great. The pot metal originals are very hard to get. I will be in the same boat on my 58 Desoto I have some weak originals
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Posted 2022-08-22 11:35 PM (#623725 - in reply to #619044)
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Had an NOS pair I sold after I sold my 57 Adventurer convertible



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MSS73
Posted 2022-08-23 3:33 AM (#623730 - in reply to #623725)
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roadkillontheweb - 2022-08-23 6:35 AM Had an NOS pair I sold after I sold my 57 Adventurer convertible

 

What was price for those?

 

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Posted 2022-08-23 4:08 AM (#623731 - in reply to #619044)
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@ Lee, you have to send them to Italy

@ Marko,- I think approx $800 - $1400
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