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Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 10107 ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: So. Cal | Pretty neat police car up for sale on Hemmings, a California Highway Patrol car, now in Canada. Says it is an Enforcer, not a Newport. What does that mean - is it based off the New Yorker? Looks to have all the police specific parts on it. Notice that it is using the '54 Plymouth dog dish caps, unlike in '61 when it used the '56 Dodge dog dish caps. I really didn't expect to see this steering wheel in the car! How long did they use the '57 Plymouth wheel in their cars? No power steering or power brakes. Real men only need apply. ![]() https://www.hemmings.com/auction/1962-chrysler-other-257554 Edited by Powerflite 2022-03-31 11:25 AM (62ChryPolice RFs.jpg) (62ChryPoliceLRs.jpg) (62ChryPoliceEngines.jpg) (62ChryPoliceTrunks.jpg) (62ChryPolice Dashs.jpg) (62ChryPoliceCertifieds.jpg) Attachments ---------------- ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 1064 ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: PL / EU | Nice looking car. These dog dish caps aren't likely to be correct. 122 in wheelbase says it was built based on Newport ![]() ![]() ![]() Edited by RDP 2022-03-31 12:16 PM | ||
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Expert Posts: 2102 ![]() ![]() | . Another non-forwardlook example – 1964 Newport Sedan; It had been selling on 2015... Is it optional «Enforcer» engine? (1.JPG) (2.JPG) (3.JPG) Attachments ---------------- ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
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Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 10107 ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: So. Cal | RDP - 2022-03-31 9:15 AM Nice looking car. These dog dish caps aren't likely to be correct. Why do you say that? Just because of the picture? The hubcaps in your picture are definitely NOT correct because: 1. They weren't made until 1963, 2. Those aren't police spec caps, which have a unique part number. Also the car in that picture is clearly not a black/white and has no markings on it. It may be an undercover car, but more likely it's a hollywood creation of an unmarked car. Don't believe every promo picture you see. That '64 police car should be wearing the same '54 Plymouth caps that the '62 is wearing - if it was based out of the US. Export police cars often just used the standard dog dish caps as the civilian cars. Edited by Powerflite 2022-03-31 4:06 PM | ||
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Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 10107 ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: So. Cal | I agree about it being a Newport. If it were based on a New Yorker, it would have a 413 in it instead. I think his statement meant to say that the "9" in the VIN indicates it is an original police car, and not a Newport made up to look like one. | ||
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Expert Posts: 1231 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Ramona, CA | Powerflite - 2022-03-31 12:15 PM RDP - 2022-03-31 9:15 AM Nice looking car. These dog dish caps aren't likely to be correct. Why do you say that? Just because of the picture? The hubcaps in your picture are definitely NOT correct because: 1. They weren't made until 1963, 2. Those aren't police spec caps, which have a unique part number. Also the car in that picture is clearly not a black/white and has no markings on it. It may be an undercover car, but more likely it's a hollywood creation of an unmarked car. Don't believe every promo picture you see. That '64 police car should be wearing the same '54 Plymouth caps that the '62 is wearing - if it was based out of the US. Export police cars often just used the standard dog dish caps as the civilian cars. Are you saying the caps in the brochure photo aren't correct? Is that not a period brochure? I see the car for sale has the top mounted rear view mirror. | ||
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Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 10107 ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: So. Cal | I'm saying they wouldn't be correct for US based police pursuit cars. I take back that the caps in the photo were made in 1963, though as it looks like the little circles for 1962 standard caps may be present on it, but it's hard to tell. The cap that was designated for US police cars from '62-'68 (along with the '61 Plymouth & maybe some '61 Dodges?) were the '54 Plymouth caps shown on the '62 Chrysler being sold. Export police & maybe other non-pursuit cars could have been ordered with the standard wheels & caps for each particular year. (61Polara CHP.jpg) (Fury Michigan Police.jpg) (1965_dodge_polara_pursuits.jpg) (1965-CHP-Dodge-Polaras.jpg) (Fury NYC Police.jpg) (Fury Police.jpg) Attachments ---------------- ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 659 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Lubbock, TX | frwl - 2022-03-31 12:10 PM . Another non-forwardlook example – 1964 Newport Sedan; It had been selling on 2015... Is it optional «Enforcer» engine? I just saw this car at the Big Spring, TX auction last year, it's a totally stock Newport that someone slapped some decals and a gumball on the the roof. Not a police or fleet special build. ~Peter | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 943 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Really cool. I didn't realize they had a special police package available in these years | ||
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Expert Posts: 1204 ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: D-70199 Heslach | Powerflite - 2022-03-31 4:08 PM I really didn't expect to see this steering wheel in the car! How long did they use the '57 Plymouth wheel in their cars? A friend on mine has a 59 Dodge CHP, he explained me the reason for the 57 Plymouth steering wheel,- but unfortunately I forgot......I am getting old | ||
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Veteran Posts: 212 ![]() ![]() Location: Suwanee, GA | The turn signal lever on the 62 is in an awkward position, even without the spot light handle. Maybe this is the reason for the earlier steering wheel??? | ||
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Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 10107 ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: So. Cal | The original reason was because the police required a full horn ring and the newer cars no longer provided that. The hub cap used on the '61 Chrysler Newport was the '56 Dodge cap and the '56 Dodge cap was used by the police up until that time (but not sure about a Plymouth police car. It might have used the '54 Plymouth cap). So i expected the '61 Dodge police to use the same '56 Dodge cap until I saw that picture of the '61 Polara police car with the Plymouth caps on it. Odd that they would use Dodge caps on the Chrysler but not on the Dodge! Edited by Powerflite 2022-04-06 11:00 AM | ||
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Expert Posts: 1231 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Ramona, CA | Ev's62Chrysler - 2022-04-06 6:26 AM The turn signal lever on the 62 is in an awkward position, even without the spot light handle. Maybe this is the reason for the earlier steering wheel??? They would have had to use a different steering column as there is no room for a turn signal lever on the original column. The steering wheel fits into a collar in the front of the dome. | ||
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Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 10107 ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: So. Cal | I was hoping to verify which caps a '60 Dart police car would have used, only to see full wheelcovers on here. Did '60 Dodge police pursuit cars use full wheelcovers? No. Edited by Powerflite 2022-05-10 5:32 PM (60 Dart Police.jpg) Attachments ---------------- ![]() | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 1064 ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: PL / EU | Powerflite - 2022-05-10 11:30 PM I was hoping to verify which caps a '60 Dart police car would have used, only to see full wheelcovers on here. Did '60 Dodge police pursuit cars use full wheelcovers? No. it is not exactly Dart, but... Edited by RDP 2022-05-12 1:11 PM (D60.JPG) Attachments ---------------- ![]() | ||
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Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 10107 ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: So. Cal | Yeah, those are the caps that I would expect them to use, though not sure why that front wheel is so wonky. It would be cool to see a '55-'60 Plymouth police car too. Edited by Powerflite 2022-05-13 12:12 AM | ||
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Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 10107 ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: So. Cal | Notice the caps on this '60 Plymouth Savoy police car, the same as the '62-'68 cars. It's my theory/belief that all Plymouth police cars used these caps from 1954-'68. Yet, these caps aren't mentioned in the parts catalogs outside of 1954 and 1961-'68. Likewise, I believe that all Dodge police cars used the '56 Dodge caps from '56-'60. In '61, Dodge looks like they changed over to the '54 Plymouth cap, but the '61 Newport used the Dodge cap. Weird. In '62-'68, they all used the '54 Plymouth cap. Edited by Powerflite 2022-05-23 3:41 PM (60Plym Police Car.jpg) Attachments ---------------- ![]() | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 659 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Lubbock, TX | From what I recall, don't those older caps require different clips/wheels to snap on? As in maybe those police issued cars are running the older 15" rims? Or can we confirm they're still the 14"? ~Peter | ||
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Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 10107 ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: So. Cal | Yes, that's correct, that they would be used with the older 15" rims. In fact, the '60('56 dodge cap) and '61('54 Plymouth cap) parts catalogs specifically calls them out as a 15" wheel cap. So I guess I should clarify that these would only have been used if the police department required 15" wheels. It might not have been very uniform back then, across all departments. Edited by Powerflite 2022-05-23 6:03 PM | ||
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Expert Posts: 1231 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Ramona, CA | Here's a post from the CHP... In 1962, the California Highway Patrol made a significant upgrade to its fleet, acquiring over 1,200 Chrysler Enforcers. Based on the Chrysler Newport, these iconic patrol cars were equipped with the powerful 383 cubic inch V8 Mopar engine, delivering an impressive 325 horsepower. With an upgraded camshaft and carburetor, combined with a heavy-duty police suspension and brake package, these vehicles were built to handle the toughest pursuits. The fully equipped Enforcer could reach a top speed of 130 mph—a remarkable speed for the time. These cars were not just fast; they were reliable workhorses, helping CHP officers keep California's highways safe. (1962_chp_newport_t.jpg) Attachments ---------------- ![]() | ||
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Expert Posts: 1231 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Ramona, CA | While researching 1962 Chrysler 300H that supposedly came with optional dealer-installed 405 ram induction engine through the 300 club, I heard from a member that there were ram induction police cars and wagons back then. Has anyone seen any documentation on any actual ram inducted police vehicle? I can't believe that any fleet operator would want the complexity or service hassles of the ram induction system. Of course you can never say never with Chrysler. But memories and stories are not facts. I've heard plenty of car stories that just can't be true just due to the timing of the supposed events and the available hardware. | ||
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