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| Powerflite |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9654     Location: So. Cal | Don't replace the booster with something else. You'll destroy the value and awesomeness of your unique car. The flat top master from the late '60's will fit under the stock booster. But I like to convert it to a remote reservoir using a master from a Mitsubishi Fuso truck. You have to elongate the mounting holes on a mill, but it isn't bad. The lower fittings are metric, so use the right tube nuts with it, and the remote reservoir comes from Classic Performance Products or Scott's Hot Rods. It has to be narrow enough to fit in there, which is the limiting factor. Edited by Powerflite 2023-03-23 11:03 AM (58FF Remote Brake Master.jpg) Attachments ----------------  58FF Remote Brake Master.jpg (169KB - 63 downloads) | ||
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| 57chizler |
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| Powerflite |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9654 Location: So. Cal | 1987-1995 Mitsubishi Fuso FE Truck. The FE designation here matters. They have a 1 1/8" diameter piston, so they match up well with the stock rear brakes. You can get them off Ebay or Rockauto for around $55-$60. 3/8" hose, made specifically for brake fluid (also available on Ebay) works best with it - 10mm hose is too big. Here is the oblongation required for it as well. Use a good flat washer under the nuts to distribute the load well. Disclaimer: I haven't tried this yet with a 392 hemi motor to see if it fits. It's close, but too close to call it yet. Edited by Powerflite 2023-03-23 1:22 PM (Mitsubishi Fuso Master Mods.jpg) (57NY Power Brakes Installed.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Mitsubishi Fuso Master Mods.jpg (47KB - 61 downloads) 57NY Power Brakes Installed.jpg (202KB - 59 downloads) | ||
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| Powerflite |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9654 Location: So. Cal | I realized that I didn't need to wait to put the 392 hemi into my New Yorker to figure out if this master would fit. I could try it out on my 300C instead, which is currently missing the master out of it. Unfortunately, it doesn't fit. It hits the valve cover both from the side and the bottom. I couldn't fully seat it on the firewall either. I think it would work with an offset adapter, similar to the A-body hemi adapter. An offset to the left or upward might work. But I am wondering if it would be possible to mount the master from the inside and make it work that way. Something to think about when I get to that point. Edited by Powerflite 2023-03-25 1:02 AM (Mitsubishi Fuso Master on 300C.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Mitsubishi Fuso Master on 300C.jpg (193KB - 66 downloads) | ||
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| Arocket111 |
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Regular Posts: 64 | Just to clarify it’s a 1961 Windsor with drums all round the only space issue is height above keeping the existing power brake unit there is no forward space issues with rocker covers or other And I do not have the half round tank whatever it is ? shown on the right of powerfites reply Photos of mc and booster below I can’t get them to show on the thread sorry Thanks for the great replies so far any help greatly appreciated Phil Edited by Arocket111 2023-03-25 12:29 PM Attachments ---------------- 9AFA090D-ACF3-495C-BEEF-521E36088028.jpeg (45KB - 69 downloads) 9C6EB6E9-F317-47FE-8FC8-33E30CE99A02.jpeg (228KB - 61 downloads) | ||
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| Powerflite |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9654 Location: So. Cal | Sorry, some of that info was for general knowledge, not specifically directed to you. Your photos will show on the thread if you save them as .jpg instead of .jpeg. It's easy to change them on a PC, but on a Mac, that is likely harder. You do have that vacuum tank, it's just located in a different place - under the battery mount, I believe. These are the options with relatively flat tops that fit snugly under there, from '67-'71ish mopars. One problem with them is that the bore size is quite small at 1" diameter. That makes the brake pedal travel much larger than most people like it, and it forces you to keep your brakes fully adjusted so you don't lose any more pedal travel. The Mitsubishi master has a large 1 1/8" bore, that matches up well with our original master. However, it is made for disc brakes in the front, so it will likely require a 10 lb residual valve in the line in order to use it on an original setup. Edited by Powerflite 2023-03-25 8:19 PM (130.63009_Master.jpg) (Mopar drum Master Cylinder.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 130.63009_Master.jpg (55KB - 62 downloads) Mopar drum Master Cylinder.jpg (47KB - 56 downloads) | ||
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| 56D500boy |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9900 Location: Lower Mainland BC | . This AM, I sent Phil the following info: "I would probably stay with the OE power brake booster system. BUT you could probably switch to something like this (I bought one for a future project for my 56 Dodge) https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/chrysler,1971,new+yorker,7.2l+44... Regardless, I would stick with a 4 bolt master cylinder, in your case a drum/drum dual channel master like the RAYBESTOS MC36221 or CENTRIC 13063009 , as two of the low profile options listed here: https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/chrysler,1967,new+yorker,7.2l+44... https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=309048&cc=1327104&pt=183... https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=1610838&cc=1327104&pt=18... /Dave F"  | ||
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Regular Posts: 78 | Earlier this month I added info on the new brake system and how to do proper bleeding procedures. Loading here for reference - (1960 plymouth brake adjustment 1.jpg) (1960 Plymouth brake adjustment 2.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 1960 plymouth brake adjustment 1.jpg (69KB - 67 downloads) 1960 Plymouth brake adjustment 2.jpg (65KB - 68 downloads) | ||
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Regular Posts: 78 | At the same time I included general writeups on the total brake contact system in the same 'brake' section. Adding them here for your reference - (New Three-Platform Total-Contact Brake Writeup 2.jpg) (New Three Platform Contact Brake Writeup 2.jpg) (New Center Contact Brake Writeup 3.jpg) Attachments ---------------- New Three-Platform Total-Contact Brake Writeup 2.jpg (52KB - 69 downloads) New Three Platform Contact Brake Writeup 2.jpg (54KB - 68 downloads) New Center Contact Brake Writeup 3.jpg (39KB - 59 downloads) | ||
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