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w.weiland |
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Expert Posts: 1523 Location: Lordstown, Ohio | This is mine https://www.forcbodiesonly.com/mopar-forum/threads/1958-desoto.81017... | ||
frwl |
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Expert Posts: 2063 | . A data plate picture, P L E A S E !!! Need to figure out: what column shows the “Roof Moulding Package No. 2” this car equipped with… My guessing it is in the column 47… (i.e. 472, if this car built in Hamtramck). (1.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 1.jpg (76KB - 105 downloads) | ||
Lancer Mike |
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Location: The Centennial State | Sweepalicious! A very worth while project. Somebody will have some fun with it! | ||
w.weiland |
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Expert Posts: 1523 Location: Lordstown, Ohio | Lancer Mike - 2023-11-14 2:28 AM Sweepalicious! A very worth while project. Somebody will have some fun with it! Very much so Data pic on other site | ||
Lancer Mike |
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Location: The Centennial State | I'm pretty sure this car was built in Los Angeles, CA based on the data tag. Rose Beige (M) and Autumn Rust (O). Someone will be able to decode this: Attachments ---------------- 21.jpeg (163KB - 108 downloads) | ||
frwl |
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Expert Posts: 2063 | . Thanks for sharing!!! Lower row: SO 1008 = SHIPPING ORDER = Scheduled on October 8, 1957 – it is an early production car MODEL LS1L = 1958 (L), DeSoto (S), Firesweep (1), Los Angeles Plant (L) BT = BODY TYPE = 412 = Desoto (4), Firesweep (1), Sportsman 2-Door Hardtop (2) PT = PAINT = MOO = Rose Beige Roof Color (M), Autumn Rust Body and Insert Color (2) TR = TRIM = 663 = Gray Vinyl and Gray Frontier Homespun Fabric – Custom Trim at Extra Cost (from Firedome Series) Now, the most interesting upper row: M3 = 7 = 317 = Glamour Group No. 7 that includes: 356 = Bumper Guards – Front and Rear (can’t see either currently) 422 = Roof Molding Package No. 2 (422 was for Sportsman Hardtops while 421 was for Sedan and Wagons) YES!!! 511 = Wheel Covers M4 = 1 = 411 = Color Sweep – Moulding Only (412 – with Color Insert); Originally built with SINGLE side upper moulding portion, NO color insert; lower moulding portion has been added later… Like on the picture below left… (1.jpg) (2.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 1.jpg (30KB - 109 downloads) 2.jpg (221KB - 120 downloads) | ||
frwl |
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Expert Posts: 2063 | . Here the link to the ’58 DeSoto Order Codes: http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=55786&... | ||
frwl |
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Expert Posts: 2063 | . Here link to the M4 = 2 = 412 (Dual Mouldings with Color Sweep Insert between) data plate code: http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=77002&... (""4 = 2.jpg) Attachments ---------------- ""4 = 2.jpg (147KB - 108 downloads) | ||
frwl |
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Expert Posts: 2063 | . Forgot attach the picture and decide to repeat for easy reading: SO 1008 = SHIPPING ORDER = Scheduled on October 8, 1957 – it is an early production car MODEL LS1L = 1958 (L), DeSoto (S), Firesweep (1), Los Angeles Plant (L) BT = BODY TYPE = 412 = Desoto (4), Firesweep (1), Sportsman 2-Door Hardtop (2) PT = PAINT = MOO = Rose Beige Roof Color (M), Autumn Rust Body and Insert Color (2) TR = TRIM = 663 = Gray Vinyl and Gray Frontier Homespun Fabric – Custom Trim at Extra Cost (from Firedome Series) Now, the most interesting upper row: M3 = 7 = 317 = Glamour Group No. 7 that includes: 356 = Bumper Guards – Front and Rear (can’t see either currently) 422 = Roof Molding Package No. 2 (422 was for Sportsman Hardtops while 421 was for Sedan and Wagons) YES!!! 511 = Wheel Covers M4 = 1 = 411 = Color Sweep – Moulding Only (412 – with Color Insert); Originally built with SINGLE side upper moulding portion, NO color insert; lower moulding portion has been added later… Attachments ---------------- 1.jpeg (196KB - 117 downloads) | ||
frwl |
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Expert Posts: 2063 | . (1.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 1.jpg (196KB - 99 downloads) | ||
w.weiland |
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Expert Posts: 1523 Location: Lordstown, Ohio | Very very interesting Any pics of colors | ||
Lancer Mike |
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Location: The Centennial State | A pretty cool color combination (1958-Desoto-pg01.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 1958-Desoto-pg01.jpg (109KB - 110 downloads) | ||
w.weiland |
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Expert Posts: 1523 Location: Lordstown, Ohio | So the pinkish color showing thru is the rose beige? | ||
frwl |
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Expert Posts: 2063 | . You could try to clear the black paint under the both mouldings in some place to the factory paint. It would be showing what mouldings have been factory installed. The shade on the factory paint on the place below moulding should be darker than on the all over body, I guess. If the both mouldings only have been factory installed, darker stripes on paint shows you it. If the upper moulding only – only one stripe. Let me know, please. | ||
Powerflite |
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Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 10014 Location: So. Cal | That Autumn Rust color showing through on your car looks much more pink than the paint chip shows. Almost like my Firedome. But my Firedome's paint isn't original to the car. | ||
Lancer Mike |
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Location: The Centennial State | Hi, Igor: I thought code 411 got you the lower moulding and basically you would have the full moulding set with no color insert. Code 412 would actually paint the sweep and would always correspond with a MOM (XYX) type color code as opposed to a MOO (XYY) type color code?
I suppose to test that theory, has anyone ever seen a '58 De Soto with no side mouldings at all (no code 411 or 412) or, conversely, a code 412 with a XYY-type paint code? Edited by Lancer Mike 2023-11-16 8:57 PM | ||
frwl |
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Expert Posts: 2063 | . Hello Michael, Your theory is very interesting. I never think about this. Upper moulding is always in standard, while a lower moulding is optional… Hmmm… So, why did they write for code 411 “Moulding Only”? The “MouldingS Only” would be correct! (1.jpg) (1958 DeSoto-IF10S.JPG) Attachments ---------------- 1.jpg (221KB - 106 downloads) 1958 DeSoto-IF10S.JPG (181KB - 103 downloads) | ||
w.weiland |
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Expert Posts: 1523 Location: Lordstown, Ohio | sold the engine and trans from this car car as a roller 6k | ||
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