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Veteran Posts: 105  | Hi Everyone, I'm going nuts trying to find a modern Acrylic paint code or name that is a close match to my 56 Dodge Custom Royal, which, like the below image, has Crown Yellow, Iridescent Charcoal, and cream Roof. Has anybody successfully matched the original colours ? If so, can you share the brand / name / paint code, as I would like my car to look like the attached photo . Thanks for any help. Edited by Steve1956 2024-10-05 4:16 AM (56 Dodge colours.jpg) (Dodge Yellow Charcoal.jpg) Attachments ----------------  56 Dodge colours.jpg (51KB - 38 downloads) Dodge Yellow Charcoal.jpg (80KB - 39 downloads) | ||
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| mstrug |
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| 56D500boy |
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Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 10354 Location: Lower Mainland BC | . Steve: The formula below was used by Bruce Faulkner on his "twin" 56 Dodge D500s (one hardtop, one convertible) that won numerous awards. I will let you Google Imron (it was a Dupont single stage polyurethane paint). I am nor sure if it is still available or whether you could find it in Australia. Good luck.  (BruceFaulknersFormulasForSapphireWhiteCrownYellowAndCharcoalMetallic.jpg) Attachments ---------------- BruceFaulknersFormulasForSapphireWhiteCrownYellowAndCharcoalMetallic.jpg (48KB - 42 downloads) | ||
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| Steve1956 |
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| 56D500boy |
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Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 10354 Location: Lower Mainland BC | . Steve: I hope that others reply to your request for help. *HOWEVER*, in the meantime, I will add some more comments. 1. I presume that there is a REPCO shop near you. 2. They will have various automotive paint spray cans and bulk paint (liter, quarts, etc). 3. You will probably have to try to find modern paints that closely mimic the 1956 paints that you seek. For example, there is a Holden Metallic black that might work for the charcoal: https://www.repco.com.au/car-care-panel/paint/auto-paints/dupli-colo... Otherwise, seek out Toyotas or Hondas, etc. to find a charcoal metallic that is better and then take that information (Year and Make) to the Repco shop to see what they have. There are a number of whites out there. It took me a couple of trys to get the right one for my 56. I finally painted the roof of the car with DupliColor Chrysler Stone White (total of 8 cans (one can per quadrant, two coats)) Finding a modern yellow will be your biggest challenge. Again, going into the paint section of a Repco shop might lead to something. Searching in the Repco website, just now, turned up this Hyundai yellow paint but it looks too in your face yellow for me: https://www.repco.com.au/car-care-panel/paint/auto-paints/dupli-colo... Once you find a spray can of a colour that might work, you can probably work with the Repco paint person to see what they can provide you in bulk. You might recall that I rattle-canned my entire 56 Dodge and, with a little luck (and a bit of trial-and-error learning) and some mechanical polishing, it has turned out not too bad (15 footer). SO if you have a compressor and paint gun (and paint) I am sure that you can do a more than acceptable job (way better than my amateur hour efforts) REFERENCE: http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=69831&... Edited by 56D500boy 2024-10-05 8:39 PM | ||
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| JedRhule |
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| Steve1956 |
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Veteran Posts: 105 | Update; I found a suitable yellow ( that I like - which is the most important element) by taking the hood in a trailer to a paint shop, and he matched a colour chip as best he could to some residual yellow on the nose of the hood. Got a sample pot mixed up. A friend sprayed a patch on the car, and I like it so that one is solved. Next day I tried picking a "charcoal" like colour from their metallic colour chips, had a sample pot made again, and went home and brushed some on. Didn't like it. Looked almost black. My friend came around again and sprayed some on the car. Instant change of mind. Looks like the colour chip I chose. Now the metallic gray, as it is called may not be as brown as the original Iridescent Charcoal, but I really like it. I think it will "pop" in the sun as they say! So thanks for your the replies and suggestions. Hope to get colour on the car by end of summer here in Australia! Body to come off chassis next to get chassis done, underbody cleaned and painted, and body back on for painting! Edited by Steve1956 2024-10-06 10:23 PM (Dodge Colour3.jpg) (Dodge Colour4.jpg) (Dodge Colour2.jpg) (Dodge Colour1.jpg) (56 Dodge Oct 2024.JPG) Attachments ---------------- Dodge Colour3.jpg (93KB - 39 downloads) Dodge Colour4.jpg (86KB - 42 downloads) Dodge Colour2.jpg (98KB - 42 downloads) Dodge Colour1.jpg (83KB - 39 downloads) 56 Dodge Oct 2024.JPG (87KB - 40 downloads) | ||
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| 56D500boy |
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Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 10354 Location: Lower Mainland BC | . Looking good Steve. Should look great. Just a reminder: The area around the taillights on your car should be the same white as the roof, like mine: | ||
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Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 10354 Location: Lower Mainland BC | Steve1956 - 2024-10-06 10:30 PM One more question though...what colour should it be under the hood? Steve: I should have a definitive answer to your question - but I don't.  I have photos of 56 Dodges that have either the Charcoal or Black upper and the undersides of their hoods all seem to be black. But they might have been repainted at some point. And/or some of the underside have been undercoated with black tarry cr@p. But my 56 Dodge (white, dark blue and light blue) hood underside is black but I am pretty sure that it has been repainted. Otherwise I would have expected one of the blues. My firewall is the dark blue because I believe that multi-tone cars were painted with the upper paint first and then the lower and roof colours were added afterwards. I know that the factory painted the 56 Dodge front fenders the lower colour and then added the little bit of upper colour to the fender as a separate cap placed over the fender and under the mirror base trim. So that begs the question as to how the factory dealt with the hoods. Were they painted the lower colour and then the upper colour added or the other way around (paint the hood the lower colour and then add the upper colour)? If the latter were true then I would think that the entire hood would be painted the lower colour (inside and outside). I have some photos that suggest the latter is true, i.e. hood got painted the lower colour first and then the upper colour was added. In these photos of 56 Dodge Coronet D500 police car, you can see that the upper colour (either black or charcoal) has faded off the top of the hood due to exposure to the elements. That got me excited to see whether the underside was going to be the lower or not. Unfortunately, at some point in the car's history, the underside of the hood was coated with undercoating, perhaps as a sound deadening for the solid lifter D500 engine. My best guess: The hoods were painted on both sides with the lower colour first and then the upper colour was added once the lower colour was baked on. But that is a guess. The best evidence that I have (and it is lacking): (GaryHergertsD500PoliceCarFind_CloseUp.jpg) (GaryHergertsD500PoliceCarFind_EngineBay.jpg) Attachments ---------------- GaryHergertsD500PoliceCarFind_CloseUp.jpg (202KB - 37 downloads) GaryHergertsD500PoliceCarFind_EngineBay.jpg (187KB - 46 downloads) | ||
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Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 10354 Location: Lower Mainland BC | . Here is another potential answer: Jedrule's (Gerard W's) 56 Dodge Lancer 4 dr hardtop. I know that it has been repainted at some point but the under hood bracing is showing the lower colour which goes to my conjecture about the hoods being painted on both sides with the lower colour before the upper colour is applied to the section corralled by the hood ornament and the stainless side spears. Maybe Gerard has photos of his car before it was repainted ?? (GerardWs4drLancer_smallest.jpg) (GerardWsHoodPaintAndUnderCoating.jpg) Attachments ---------------- GerardWs4drLancer_smallest.jpg (138KB - 41 downloads) GerardWsHoodPaintAndUnderCoating.jpg (75KB - 38 downloads) | ||
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Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 10354 Location: Lower Mainland BC | . I reached out to a long time forum member, Dave H, in Minnesota who has a 56 Dodge Lancer coupe, paint code 271 (the classic three tone, sapphire white roof, Charcoal Metallic saddle and Oriental Coral lower) and asked whether he had any photos that would help this thread. That was late California time. This AM I awoke to an email from Dave with a whack of photo details showing how the Detroit factory painted his Lancer, with details around the door opening, the rear valence, etc. that would be invaluable for someone restoring their 56 Dodge Lancer to concourse winning levels. Included in those detail photos were photos of the unmolested underside of his Lancer's hood. Yay! This is what Dave said in his email: "My car is original paint and shows the underside of the hood the same Oriental Coral color as the lower color. The gloss is dead flat. I suspect it is as sprayed, no sanding/polishing as an external surface. Or maybe from the heat. Or no wax for nearly 70 years. Or all." I have to say that I am a bit disappointed to be right. Yes, they did paint the hood with the lower colour first *BUT* they barely wasted any paint on the underside of the hood. It looks more like any lower colour paint that managed to find its way to the underside of the hood got there by accident/as over spray. There is some lower colour paint showing but there is a lot of the grey primer showing as well. The bean counters strike again? Here are three pertinent photos that Dave H sent to contribute to this thread for Steve's cause (Thanks muchly Dave) Edited by 56D500boy 2024-10-08 11:52 AM (DaveHs271PaintCode56DodgeLancer.jpg) (DaveHsUnmolested56DodgeHoodShowingLowerColourPaintOnUnderside_1.jpg) (DaveHsUnmolested56DodgeHoodShowingLowerColourPaintOnUnderside_2.jpg) (DaveHsUnmolested56DodgeHoodShowingLowerColourPaintOnUnderside_3.jpg) Attachments ---------------- DaveHs271PaintCode56DodgeLancer.jpg (214KB - 37 downloads) DaveHsUnmolested56DodgeHoodShowingLowerColourPaintOnUnderside_1.jpg (116KB - 36 downloads) DaveHsUnmolested56DodgeHoodShowingLowerColourPaintOnUnderside_2.jpg (97KB - 36 downloads) DaveHsUnmolested56DodgeHoodShowingLowerColourPaintOnUnderside_3.jpg (120KB - 36 downloads) | ||
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| Steve1956 |
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Veteran Posts: 105 | It seems I have the saddle body charcoal , at the back of the hood, with all sorts over the rest! Think I can see some red primer, and a hint of yellow overspray at the front. The inside of the trunk is the iridescent charcoal Leaning towards dong the metallic gray, or maybe black. Not sure about doing it in yellow. Edited by Steve1956 2024-10-10 8:47 PM (56 hood 1.jpg) (56 hood 2.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 56 hood 1.jpg (90KB - 38 downloads) 56 hood 2.jpg (67KB - 35 downloads) | ||
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