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carjock
Posted 2006-02-03 8:46 PM (#49600)
Subject: Window crank handle removal


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Has anyone ever removed the quarter window cranks on a 1959 Dodge 2-door hardtop? This just cannot be that tough, but I absolutely cannot figure out how to remove them or what holds them in place. Help?
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carjock
Posted 2006-02-07 7:06 PM (#49910 - in reply to #49600)
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No one going to "bite" on this? I'm still stuck!!
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peachcasino
Posted 2006-02-07 8:26 PM (#49914 - in reply to #49600)
Subject: RE: Window crank handle removal


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This is a 58 door handle dont know if dodges are the same, but as you can see theres a clip you have to move to the left then it should pull right off, bend the tip of a butter knife over an use to move it sideways. wlndow cranks have the same clip.



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carjock
Posted 2006-02-08 10:52 AM (#49955 - in reply to #49600)
Subject: RE: Window crank handle removal


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Thanks for that info--I think it solves my problem!
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Mope R. Geezer
Posted 2006-02-09 3:06 PM (#50015 - in reply to #49914)
Subject: RE: Window crank handle removal



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Your photo was very helpful. But my parts catalog has a diagram which shows a three-prong clip. So I'm still having trouble understanding how this clip engages the regulator shaft???
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Mike M
Posted 2006-02-09 3:41 PM (#50018 - in reply to #49600)
Subject: RE: Window crank handle removal



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As you look at the photo, the spring tension pushes the clip to the right and holds the handle on the shaft.
To remove, you have to push to the left to relieve the tension.
That means where the tab of the spring (the part on the right of the picture) is pushed to the left, toward the center hole, it allows the handle to be removed.
The way to do this is CAREFULLY take a wide blade screwdriver, slip it under the door (or window) handle and push the panel back so you can see (I know it's difficult) whide side of the handle the spring clip is on. Then take a smaller blade screw driver, turn it sideways to the panel and press on the spring clip to relaese the tension and wiggle the handle off the shaft.
But do this carefully, because if you slip you can do some damage to your panel.
They used to make a tool for this, but not any more. There is a universal clip remover, but when I tried it, the spring tension is such that I bent the tool.
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MOPAR-TO-YA
Posted 2006-02-09 7:11 PM (#50030 - in reply to #49600)
Subject: RE: Window crank handle removal


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I just took mine off a few days ago. The flat butterknife with about 1/8" of the tip bent at a right angle worked well for me, You have less risk of damaging your doorpanel, I think. Slide it in with the bent tip facing toward you. With the door handle - window crank pointing down, slide the knife in from the left side and push toward the right side while lightly pulling-wiggleing the handle. Be sure you insert the knife between the handle and the door panel protectve disc( metal) --Works for me! .................................5%.....................
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Mope R. Geezer
Posted 2006-02-09 7:52 PM (#50034 - in reply to #49600)
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Mike- You're a genius! Thanks a million! Evidently Carjock is a lot brighter than I am, because he must have figured this out long ago!
Anyway, with your additional description, I was able to get the window cranks off, FINALLY! Like you, my handle removal tool did not work, & was not designed for this job. But the most confusing part for me was the clip - even after seeing your photo, it was hard for me to tell what was the handle & what was the clip. AND it was completely different than the 3-prong jobby shown in my parts catalog diagram??? You can be sure that this DodgeDoofus will take some additional photos & document the procedure well for future reference! THANKS AGAIN!
/s/ Bill
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Mike M
Posted 2006-02-09 9:18 PM (#50044 - in reply to #49600)
Subject: RE: Window crank handle removal



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I found this in the glove box of my 58 Fury about 20 years ago. Then I lost it for about 20 years and recently found it again.
It is the correct tool for taking the handles off.




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MOPAR-TO-YA
Posted 2006-02-10 7:59 PM (#50106 - in reply to #50044)
Subject: RE: Window crank handle removal


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Mike , that looks really slick ---much better than a butter knife. If someone here were capable of making this tool, I'm sure you could sell a lot of them................................................5%................
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ilikedodge
Posted 2006-02-10 8:26 PM (#50111 - in reply to #50044)
Subject: RE: Window crank handle removal



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man, if you could take a few measurements on that tool, i would appreciate it. inside diameter of the fork, outside diameter also. and thickness. that would be great. i am at that stage too. thanks, mike in k.c.
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alumcanTandThd
Posted 2006-02-11 11:18 PM (#50190 - in reply to #49600)
Subject: RE: Window crank handle removal



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This winder (WV talk fer 'window') removal tool(s) has really been discussed several times in the archives.
You 'newbies' need to go searching in the archives and find pictures of the 'factory' tool issued to the dealers!
Several have been on ebay, anywhere from $50 to a $150 a pop!
You might just have, or be able to run across one!
I have made two of those tools in the pictures. One has a longer handle than the other. They are also good for removing the plactic snap, upholstery panels, forked pry bars, etc, etc.
To get the measurments of the tool pictured, go look in the factory service manual.
There is a schematic there. I don't know what page #, but, you guys should be able to find it.
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MOPAR-TO-YA
Posted 2006-02-12 2:02 AM (#50202 - in reply to #50111)
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If you had a window crank off already, you could see what measurements it would take. I know, I know, ----you might have to use the butterknife to get the first one off .......................................5%......
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Dave L.
Posted 2006-02-13 1:23 AM (#50258 - in reply to #49600)
Subject: RE: Window crank handle removal



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Yeah, after you get the first one off, the rest are easy. Mike gave an excellent explanation and I'm happy to see a photo of another kind of tool. I'd only add, that you have to imagine that the regulator shaft is square, but there's a little neck partway in, and that's what the spring catches on. The square shape keeps it turning, but the spring clipped on the narrowed neck holds it on and keeps you from pulling it off. In the photo, you clearly see the darker-colored spring with the square opening in it. Because the spring is slightly off-center (to the right) in this at-rest position, you can't quite see the square hole in the handle casting behind it. So the sqaure spring has to be pushed (to the left - see how there's space there for it to move?) to line-up with the square hole behind it, then is slid onto the regulator, until the spring clicks. Pushing the spring back again (take note of the spring vs. handle position) allows you to pull it back off effortlessly. The butter-knife (or similar tool) works because if you are on the correct side, you just have to get under the circular perimeter of the casting. Then the edge of the spring is right there. Pretty simple - just hard to explain. Would be a good contest at a Mopar meet.

Edited by Dave L. 2006-02-13 1:29 AM
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57desoto
Posted 2006-02-13 7:24 AM (#50267 - in reply to #49600)
Subject: RE: Window crank handle removal



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I'll try to upload a sketch of the tool, with dimensions...





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ilikedodge
Posted 2006-02-14 10:26 PM (#50410 - in reply to #49600)
Subject: RE: Window crank handle removal



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thats awesome, mike in k.c. thanks!!! got er saved!
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Mope R. Geezer
Posted 2006-02-19 10:34 PM (#50684 - in reply to #49600)
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Well, who would ever believe? After all this nonsense & fooling around, Gary Goers has these handle-removal tools (KD2037) advertised for $11.50.
I actually got my window cranks off using two screwdrivers. But now I have modified my Powerbuilt tool for modern-day cars (that I bought at a local auto parts store) according to your suggestions & specs. It just required a little filing & "blunting" the lip that catches the clip.
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peachcasino
Posted 2006-02-20 12:49 AM (#50699 - in reply to #49600)
Subject: RE: Window crank handle removal


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these are in the site store for $4.99 along with some other very reasonable priced tools.


http://www.forwardlook.net/sitestore/index.htm
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Ron
Posted 2016-11-17 1:39 PM (#526492 - in reply to #49600)
Subject: Re: Window crank handle removal



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HARBOR FREIGHT SELL THE OLD HANDLE REMOVER FOR ABOUT $5.00

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56D500boy
Posted 2016-11-17 3:13 PM (#526498 - in reply to #50684)
Subject: RE: Window crank handle removal



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Mope R. Geezer - 2006-02-19 10:34 PM

Well, who would ever believe? After all this nonsense & fooling around, Gary Goers has these handle-removal tools (KD2037) advertised for $11.50.


You sure about the number. KD2037 shows up as CRL Window Molding Clip Tool



http://www.crlaurence.ca/crlapps/showline/offerpage.aspx?Productid=...
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56D500boy
Posted 2016-11-17 3:23 PM (#526502 - in reply to #50684)
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I thought that the correct door handle tool was the illusive K-D 435

http://www.chrysler300club.com/how/crank/crank1.html

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56D500boy
Posted 2016-11-18 11:31 AM (#526552 - in reply to #526502)
Subject: RE: Window crank handle removal



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56D500boy - 2016-11-17 3:23 PM I thought that the correct door handle tool was the illusive K-D 435.
http://www.chrysler300club.com/how/crank/crank1.html


Well maybe not *THAT* illusive. Just expensive. Yesterday I bought this NOS K-D 435 on eBay (now I will be able to get into my doors and fix things):

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ttotired
Posted 2016-11-18 4:56 PM (#526592 - in reply to #49600)
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I lucked out with mine, I bought a collection of assorted pliers, 13 of them for 80 bucks (I think it was) and there was a set of those in the mix

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56D500boy
Posted 2016-11-18 6:42 PM (#526610 - in reply to #526592)
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ttotired - 2016-11-18 4:56 PM I lucked out with mine, I bought a collection of assorted pliers, 13 of them for 80 bucks (I think it was) and there was a set of those in the mix


I wish

I probably could have borrowed one from someone local but I don't have a schedule to use it so I wouldn't know when I would want to return it = I better buy my own.

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Greg P.
Posted 2016-11-22 4:14 PM (#526880 - in reply to #49600)
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The tools are cool, BUT you don't need that fancy tool to remove a window crank. I worked out this method using a 99 cent pick from Harbor Freight. A screwdriver works too, but I have better results with the pick. The first try took me a few minutes, but with practice, I can pop off a window crank in seconds. The hardest part is trying to visualize what you are doing since you can't actually see it. I created this illustrated procedure in case it might help someone:



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56D500boy
Posted 2016-11-22 6:34 PM (#526889 - in reply to #526880)
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Greg: Great answer. Especially the price. I was concerned about dinting the metallic foil door panel trim with anything with anythickness.

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FINS!
Posted 2017-01-02 9:57 PM (#530277 - in reply to #49600)
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Very helpful, thanks for posting
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Swept57
Posted 2017-01-03 11:37 AM (#530297 - in reply to #526502)
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56D500boy - 2016-11-17 3:23 PM

I thought that the correct door handle tool was the illusive K-D 435



Not that elusive. There were two on eBay recently. I just bought a new one for $20.00.
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56D500boy
Posted 2017-01-03 11:45 AM (#530298 - in reply to #530297)
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Swept57 - 2017-01-03 11:37 AM
56D500boy - 2016-11-17 3:23 PM
I thought that the correct door handle tool was the illusive K-D 435

Not that elusive. There were two on eBay recently. I just bought a new one for $20.00.


Nice score. There was only the one when I was looking and I paid...Umm...MORE.

Oh well.

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Swept57
Posted 2017-01-03 12:04 PM (#530303 - in reply to #49600)
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The two I saw sold for like $26 and $35 plus shipping. I would have paid more for mine if I had too. Makes the removal super easy.
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matte
Posted 2017-01-03 3:46 PM (#530322 - in reply to #530303)
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I found this on a Chrysler 300 club site when I was looking for a tool..

http://chrysler300club.com/how/crank/crank.html

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