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55crusader
Posted 2006-03-18 10:14 PM (#52360)
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I was wondering if a 12volt brake light (let's say) socket, if polarity reversed, would work in a 6v system, with a 6v bulb?
Or even, will 12v bulbs work ina 6v system?
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RoyalGate
Posted 2006-03-18 11:20 PM (#52364 - in reply to #52360)
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Geoff,
A socket is really noting more than a "bulb holder". It shouldn't have
anything to do with voltage or polarity. That is taken care of when it is
installed in the wiring harness, ( soldered to the wires. )

A 12 volt bulb will work in a 6 volt system. It just won't be very bright
as it is working at half of it's design voltage. Use a 6 volt bulb in a 6 volt
system like intended.
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345 DeSoto
Posted 2006-03-19 9:00 AM (#52382 - in reply to #52360)
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If you're considering going from a 6V system to a 12V system, you can use the 6V wiring/socket system with no change. You will, however, have other things which will need to be changed...but not the wiring or sockets...
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56D500boy
Posted 2016-11-26 7:52 PM (#527231 - in reply to #52382)
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Now that my 56 CR D500 is running and stopping, I am starting in on fixing little things, like I only have one back-up light. The wire for the left one is lying loose. So I checked the right side (which is working) and figured out the problem with the left side is that it is missing a little ceramic disc with the single bulb terminal connection. How likely am I to find a NOS one? *OR* what is the MacGyver solution?

On a related note, I see that the tail/stop/signal light has a bakelite two pin "disc" with a keyway. Am I going to find these anywhere?

It's the little things now.

Oh boy.

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Old Ray
Posted 2016-11-26 8:02 PM (#527233 - in reply to #52360)
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Not sure that you can buy them separate, you might have to buy a universal socket and rob the disc. Cdn tire or parts store or older car from the junk yard.
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mstrug
Posted 2016-11-26 8:10 PM (#527234 - in reply to #52360)
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https://www.walmart.com/ip/Dorman-84719-1-Wire-Taillight-Lighting-So...
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http://www.autozone.com/electrical-and-lighting/universal-tail-ligh...

http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/search/Pigtails+&+Sockets+-+1+Wir...(Universal)/N1585/C0243.oap?year=1958&make=Plymouth&model=Belvedere&vi=1348983

http://www.wiringdepot.com/store/p/454-JT-T-2566F-1-Wire-w/-250-Tab...

https://www.napaonline.com/p/NW_787109

If your car is a positive ground electrical system; power (NEG,-) goes to the center terminal(s) and ground (POS.+) grounds through the case.

Edited by mstrug 2016-11-26 8:15 PM
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56D500boy
Posted 2016-11-26 9:27 PM (#527239 - in reply to #527234)
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mstrug - 2016-11-26 8:10 PM If your car is a positive ground electrical system; power (NEG,-) goes to the center terminal(s) and ground (POS.+) grounds through the case.


Thanks so much for those links. Not sure what I will be able to find equivalent in Canada but at least now I have hope.

55's are 6V positive ground. 56s are 12V negative ground.

Thanks again for the leads (pun not quite intended).


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56D500boy
Posted 2016-11-27 9:00 PM (#527316 - in reply to #527239)
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Looks like I found answers (maybe)

Single pin socket: http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=50162&jsn=17

Two pin socket: http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=4673910&jsn=__GIP__3__
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56D500boy
Posted 2016-12-19 1:38 AM (#529118 - in reply to #527231)
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56D500boy - 2016-11-26 7:52 PM On a related note, I see that the tail/stop/signal light has a bakelite two pin "disc" with a keyway. Am I going to find these anywhere?
;)


I have decided to convert the seldom used back-up lights on my 56 Custom Royal to extra tail/stop/signal lights. To this end, I need two proper OE bulb holders. I bought aftermarket sockets but they do not push the bulb out close to the lens. What I need is this:





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Powerflite
Posted 2016-12-19 4:27 PM (#529200 - in reply to #529118)
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I faced the same situation as you. You don't need to swap out those sockets. You can use them as is, and still accomplish what you intend to do. Just do the same thing I did with my '58 Desoto bulbs. By using power diodes, you can isolate the 2 inputs to send into a single filament bulb. The resistor will decrease the intensity for the driving lights. But you need to use LED's to reduce the current draw. This setup works really well and you can solder them inline so you can hardly tell anything is different from looking at it.

http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=60274&...



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56D500boy
Posted 2016-12-19 5:13 PM (#529208 - in reply to #529200)
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Powerflite: Thanks for the diagram and the link. Nice to know that someone else likes more tail light wattage than stock than just me.

I am still going to go with Plan A, i.e. OE 2 filament 1641744 sockets (IF I can find them). If I can't, your solution will be Plan B.



Edited by 56D500boy 2016-12-19 5:14 PM
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mstrug
Posted 2016-12-19 8:48 PM (#529223 - in reply to #52360)
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50's Dual Element socket for offset pins bulb (1157 Style - Offset Pins Bulb), Snaps onto 1-1/8" spring opening on case of light, has wire socket push & twist on other end (Have 6) $10 ea.
MOPAR 50's - 60's - 70's Dual Element Snap-In Bulb Socket (1157 Style - Offset Pins Bulb), Fits 1" hole, (Have several) $5 ea.
MOPAR-1/2 50's - 60's - 70's Dual Element Snap-In 1/2 Inch Extension Bulb Socket (1157 Style - Offset Pins Bulb), Fits 1" hole, (Have several) $6 ea.
MOPAR-1 50's - 60's - 70's Dual Element Snap-In 1-Inch Extension Bulb Socket, (1157 Style - Offset Pins Bulb) Fits 1" hole, (Have several) $6 ea.
MOPAR-1 1/2 50's - 60's - 70's Dual Element Snap-In 1 1/2-Inch Extension Bulb Socket (1157 Style - Offset Pins Bulb), Fits 1" hole, (Have 2) $6 ea.
GM 60's Dual Element socket (1157 Style - Offset Pins Bulb), Plastic snap-in for smooth hole with single slot Like AV8750 (Have several) $5 ea.
AV8750 60's & 70's
59 - 68 GM & Other Makes Dual Element socket (1157 Style - Offset Pins Bulb), for 1 1/16" diameter hole, Plastic assembly with metal tabs, Snap-In, New Repro (In Stock) AV8750_Plastic_1157BulbSocket.JPG (10038 bytes) $5 ea.
GM? 70"s & 80's Dual-Pin Bulb Socket, 2-element (1157 Style Offset Pins bulb) push in and twist with 3 tabs & 3 wires - 1 tab is longer, (have Several) $6 ea.
MOPAR 70"s & 80's Dual-Pin Bulb Socket, 2-element (3157 Style Push-in bulb) push in and twist with 3 tabs - 1 tab is longer, (have 1)

http://www.taillightking.com/light_bulbs_Sockets.htm
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56D500boy
Posted 2016-12-19 9:22 PM (#529224 - in reply to #529223)
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D'oh.

Thanks Marc

I bought some lenses from AJ at Taillight King. Never thought about sockets (I think I thought that the aftermarket sockets I bought would work - they won't).

Now I need to measure the hole size and the required extension that I need.

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mstrug
Posted 2016-12-20 8:27 PM (#529351 - in reply to #52360)
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deep ones:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/282296225341?ul_noapp=true
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56D500boy
Posted 2016-12-20 10:46 PM (#529365 - in reply to #529351)
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mstrug - 2016-12-20 8:27 PM deep ones:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/282296225341?ul_noapp=true


Very deep. Too deep for me. The one(s) I am looking for have an extension of about 5/8". I've contacted AJ at taillightking.com to see if he has something between the 1/2" and 1" extension that show up on his website (that you linked me to (THANKS))

These ones are looking like 1 1/4" or more?

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