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58Windsor |
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Veteran Posts: 154 Location: Mandan, North Dakota | I pulled all the info off my data tag on the hood tonight. Does someone have a site out there I can use to decode it? Thanks | ||
spikemike |
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Veteran Posts: 269 Location: Tampa, FL | Go to plymouthcentral.com; they have a decoder, under the 'options' section I believe. | ||
Windsor59 |
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Expert Posts: 2596 Location: Upplands Väsby, Sweden | Hello. I dont know if you can found some site to check your Windsor 58 data tag. But I send a post mail with my windsor 59 VIN to Walter P. Chrysler Museum in MI and order a Build records: $45.00 on my car. It was very much info I got in a post mail from them abouth my car. How it look when she built at color, interior color, options, dealer, copie off data hole cart from fabric + more thing. A funny think was the firs owner at my car has tick mirromatic (options) but fabric has deleted this order (I see it the data hole cart). NO convertible deliver with mirromatic only car with roof. The internet site address to museum is http://www.chryslerheritage.com/pg904.htm Maby this help for you. You have a fine 1958 Windsor. | ||
58Windsor |
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Veteran Posts: 154 Location: Mandan, North Dakota | Thanks. I was able to find their color chart. The codes were different, but I'm guessing mine is Chrysler version of the "Copper Glow Poly". That's pretty close to what my doorjambs, etc. look like. The exterior has faded enough to look more like the "Metallic Coral". Dad called it "Maple Rust".... heehee | ||
58Windsor |
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Veteran Posts: 154 Location: Mandan, North Dakota | Thanks for the info, I'll definitely check into that! | ||
58Windsor |
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Veteran Posts: 154 Location: Mandan, North Dakota | Thought I'd update my own post for others who may look at in the future... moparfins has the paint chips for 1958 Chryslers (and other years too). For me, it raises more questions. My paint code is XSS. The X would translate to Ermine White top, no problem there. BUT... there's no "S" code for 58 Chryslers. There is an "S" code for 58 Plymouths (www.plymouthcentral.com) and it translates to Copper Glow Poly. Depending on which monitor I'm using, its a good match for my door jams. I checked the paint chips for the 57 model year Chryslers at Moparfins. Their link says 1957, but the bottom of the charts indicates "1956 spring color only". Regardless, it has an "S' code; Sunset Rose. That's a pretty decent match to the color the outside of the car has faded to (again, depending on which monitor I'm using), but so is '58s Tahitian Coral(code "O"), but that doesn't match my paint code. The '56/'57 chip also lists a Copper Glow Poly, and its tagged as "Spring colors, two-tones only". Being my car is a Dartline, which was only offered in the spring, could '58 have had the same spring-only offering, just not on the '58 colorchart? "S" would be available, and could have meant Copper Glow, which the car kinda is. Or could it have been a custom-order car with the Plymouth color? Oh yeah, and the 57 Copper Glow looks nothing like the 58 Copper Glow, at least on this monitor. :-) hmmm... the fun continues! Edited by 58Windsor 2006-04-03 8:50 PM | ||
DeSotohead |
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Board Moderator Posts: 3186 Location: The not-so-great, dirty-white North ( Michigan) | Sometimes the "spring colors" were carried over as colors for the next model year. So if you see that, remember tha the next model years' colors may have still been under consideration, and so depending on availability, price and popularity, they could have been used going forward. A good case in point is the paint colors for my Adventurer, which the chip sheet calls out as "Pacecar and Adventurer only", for 1956, but was used going forward for 1957 Adventurer, and also in some other DeSotos for some of these colors. | ||
JERSEYBOB |
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Expert Posts: 1303 Location: Farmingdale NJ | Greg, if you go to our home page, you can also access the paint chip charts. There is also a link to Autocolorlibrary for inquiries to colors that may not be shown. I encourage you and others that may not have done so, to check out all the resources we have on the home page. Many people skip right over it and go straight to the forums. | ||
58Windsor |
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Veteran Posts: 154 Location: Mandan, North Dakota | JERSEYBOB - I encourage you and others that may not have done so, to check out all the resources we have on the home page. Many people skip right over it and go straight to the forums. Yep, that'd be me!! hehehe Thanks!! | ||
Windsor59 |
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Expert Posts: 2596 Location: Upplands Väsby, Sweden | Here is my built record for my windsor 1959 ho Walter P. Chrysler Museum in MI send me after I send my VIN code to them. Build records cost: $45.00 Soory for the pics quality. Edited by Windsor59 2006-04-05 2:21 AM (Forward LOOK.jpg) (Hole card.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Forward LOOK.jpg (94KB - 282 downloads) Hole card.jpg (27KB - 276 downloads) | ||
58Windsor |
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Veteran Posts: 154 Location: Mandan, North Dakota | Windsor59 - 2006-04-05 1:08 AM Here is my built record for my windsor 1959 ho Walter P. Chrysler Museum in MI send me after I send my VIN code to them. Build records cost: $45.00 Soory for the pics quality. Thanks for the preview '59. I dropped my request in the mail the other day based on your info. | ||
58Windsor |
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Veteran Posts: 154 Location: Mandan, North Dakota | Another update... Finally got my info from Chrysler on the car. I had to start over as I'd forgotten to include proof of ownership with the first request. (oops) BUT - - still no answers for me. The data they have shows the car as having Paint XYY - White over Beige. They also show Medium Beige Cloth & Light Beige Metallic Vinyl for the interior. None of that matches the car (Copper(?) w/black vinyl interior). My folks had it from 63 on, so I really doubt a body & interior color change in its lifetime. I can't find my rubbing of the data tag at the moment to check the interior trim it lists, but I know the paint code on it is XSS as I stated in the earlier posts. Also, the build date is May 21, 1958. If it's considered a "spring" car with the spring-only Dartline trim, wouldn't it have been built in late '57 for spring '58 sale???? The more "answers" I get the more questions & more confusion I have.
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59 explorer |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 384 Location: Hershey PA | When sales might need a boost, the various Mopar Divisions would introduce a "Spring Special". There doesn't appear to be any timeline from year to year nor is the special the same from year to year. For example Desoto in 1954 and 55 offered the Coronado which had unique exterior colors and a different interior for just the Firedome 4 door sedan (54) and Fireflite 4 door sedan (55). In 58 the special was across the board and offered unique colors/aluminum insert in the sweep/chrome bars on the trunk lid. In 59 the Seville was offered on the Firesweep and Firedome hardtops only and featured a unique color and a specific interior. To track down the specifics of any Spring Special look for magazine ads. Desoto had People & Places sent to customers; Chrysler would have had a similiar magazine (Events?). Look for press releases. Look for Ross Roy advance information sent to dealers which outlined the specifics of the special. Sometimes there was dealer handout literatue. Check the Service Bulletins issued at that time for the specific paint codes. Do not assume anything, the 58 Desoto Heather Blue (a spring color) is different than the 1959 Firedome/Fireflite Heather Blue. | ||
Chrycoman |
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Expert Posts: 1819 Location: Vancouver, BC | Chrysler's "Spring" options and colours would have been introduced in the spring and been available until no more orders were received (basicallY). As spring officially starts on March 21 and ends on June 21, the first day of summer, a build date in May fits perfectly. A car built in late 1957 would be a candidate for a "Winter Special", not spring. Also, check the VIN on your card from Chrysler and on your car. As for colours, as your DeSoto is a Firesweep it was not built at the DeSoto plant on Wyoming Avenue but at Dodge's Hamtramck plant. Firesweep models were also built at Los Angeles but the larger DeSoto models were not. And they did use some Dodge colours on the Firesweep as a result. Bill Vancouver, BC | ||
Chrycoman |
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Expert Posts: 1819 Location: Vancouver, BC | Forgot your car was a Chrysler - not a Firesweep but a 122" wheelbase Windsor. Stuck in DeSoto mode after answering three other DeSoto emails. Not sure, but they may have built those at Hamtramck as well. | ||
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